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What is White going to come up with next

Started by clevermike13 REPLIES195 VIEWS· 08 Apr 2014, 18:09
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Apr 2014, 18:09
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08 Apr 2014, 18:09#1

The Sharks website report indicates that Paul Jordaan is back for the game on Saturday, but then start off making wild guesses about what White may do selection-wise.   


There seems to be two thoughts at wotk.  The one seems to think that Steyn should play at flyhalf with Jordaan taking up the number 12 position and retention of Sithole at 13.   


The other seems to think that Steyn would remain at 12 - with Jordaan slotting in at 13.


It appears as if White still sees a role for Steyn in the set up despite repeated failure at 12.  My own quess is that Steyn may this weekend be moved to flyhalf with Jordaan at inside center.  This is likely to work better than with Steyn at 12.   At least Steyn will be forced to pass the ball more if playing at 10 - but in the only game he played at 10 this year - his passing game was inaccurate and even wild.


My guess is that White intends to use Jordaan at 12 in future - so lets wait and see what happens.   If he in fact does -  it confirms my opinion that Steyn failed in that position.      

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
08 Apr 2014, 18:21
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08 Apr 2014, 18:21#2
 I don't think Jordaan should play at 12. His hands are terrible. I think Steyn will stay at 12 with Zelinge at 10. He should also keep sithole at 13 and play Jordaan off the bench. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Apr 2014, 18:36
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08 Apr 2014, 18:36#3
 kingcorn
I don't think the problem is with Jordaan's hands being terrible - it is with the quality of passes he received.   I can remember three knock-on balls by Jordaan this year - two in the Saracen's game an one in Super 15.  Two of the knock-ons stemmed from poor passes to him.
In wet and slippery conditions passes should be accurate otherwise nobody wiull be able to catch balls.    The Saracens game was played in a rainstorm - and the one pass Jordaan failed to catch was knee high way in front of him - a pass by Francois Steyn to be exact.
Steyn's passing game is not the best around and other players have a similar problem with catching balls passed by him. 
I would not say that missing three passes - two of which was in adverse whether conditions with one of those shoulder high and the third a poor pass by Steyn - makes a player poor in ball handling.         
    
OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
08 Apr 2014, 19:56
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08 Apr 2014, 19:56#4
I think White keeps Steady Freddie at flyhalf. Had a solid, mature game against the Waratahs.

Fransie Pants at 12, Sith Ole at 13 and Jour Don in the plastics with pom-poms.




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CeradynePro9,374 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:02
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08 Apr 2014, 21:02#5
 Jannie du Plessis' defence is crap but that is because Frans Steyn is at 12. Sometimes Bismarck's throw at the line-out aren't accurate.  That is  because he has to check and make sure that Frans Steyn does not appear fat and is standing in the wrong place. Reinach is  unfortunately out with an injury because Frans Steyn was too slow to keep the others from tackling him. Lambie's got an biceps injury. It is because he had to carry the useless Frans Steyn in every game. The Sharks bus apparently had a flat wheel. Yep. You guessed it. Frans Steyn punctured it.
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:06
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08 Apr 2014, 21:06#6
haha - classic.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:06
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08 Apr 2014, 21:06#7
Dof Doos
It is not necessary to make things up to blame Steyn for - he is poor enough with the normal task he has to perform at center.
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:19
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08 Apr 2014, 21:19#8
Boerie shortage in SA because Frans is trying to bulk up.

Russia invaded Crimea looking for Fransie's pace.

Recorder from Flight 370 is lost because Frans is too lazy to go look for it

Bernie Madoff arrested for trying one of Fransie's "offloads" - which is illegal because we all know he can't do that.

Unrest in the Middle East continues as Frans insists on being a non-contributor to the winning cause.




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oimateyPro1,870 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:20
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08 Apr 2014, 21:20#9
 But its funny Mike !
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:24
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08 Apr 2014, 21:24#10
 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2014, 21:25
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08 Apr 2014, 21:25#11

Hahahaha....Clever is now only a figure of fun. His is surely the most poisoned view on a player I have ever encountered. Say OOM have you found the Matfield tackle yet and can we have your views on whether you think de Kock should still open the batting in tests.  But for the record I have rarely seen more of a mess than de Kock against the wee Indian bowlers.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Apr 2014, 22:00
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08 Apr 2014, 22:00#12
 Mozzart
I guessed you did not find my report on the Matfield tackle.   The situation was as follows: -
*   Line out - English throw in.
*   English got the ball and started with a driving maul.
*   All the Springboks in to try and stop it (all the loosies as well) - but Matfield went back to the backline and stood watching developments.
*  Ball came out and the English scrummie made a poor pass;
*  Ball rolling on the ground picked up by Tait;
*   Ran past Francois Steyn - who made a feeble tackle attempts - his fourth tackle miss in the game.
*   The backline moonlighting Matfiekld turned around and followed Tait never getting nearee than 5 meters from him.
*   Monty missed his tackle - but the next defender slowed down Tait and Matfield caught up with Tait and tackled him.
That is the full report - Matfield was moonlighting in the backline again and it was a stroke of luck that he caught up with the slow-downed Tait.   If he did his real work properly and tried to contain the maul together with the other tight 5 players - faster and better loosies could have done more about that move than Matfield did.  Sonmething like following the rolling ball and put the English on the back foot - snuffing out the attack before it even started.   
Mattfield's only asset ever was line out takes -  for the rest he was never perforrming the work in the tight 5 player.  Talking about poisoned views - what about you constant false attacks on certain players.  At least I use stats and actual occurrences on the field of play  to support what I said.  You make sweeping statements about things that never happened and then vabish from the thread when you are cornered.
Why did you not respond when I asked you about Francois Steyn's poor performances in games in Super 15 - was all his poor plays only based on negative statistics - or what?
You know nothing about T20 cricket.  It is clear that De Kock hit out at everything in the semi-final - and got a faint touch to one ball.  So did every other SA player.  Some failed like De Kock and De Villiers - the others got away with it.   That is T 20 cricket - the way it should be played to achieve success.   
So bullshitting Mozart are at it again.       


    
     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2014, 22:38
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08 Apr 2014, 22:38#13
Haha matey those are classics. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Apr 2014, 23:38
#14
08 Apr 2014, 23:38#14
Are you guys all ganging up on Clevermike again ]
I must admit though there are some seriously funny posts  you have to see the humour in it Clevermike?
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