What’s the thought process with this squad?

Erasmus is still clinging to Coetzee’s team!

Took him a year….Jake did it in 3 months.

Rassie was shit in 2021 and 2022 and lucky at the WC. Pollard saved his bacon.

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Jake had to endure a shitload of political interference

DiscoDassie ............... sweet nothing

Jake had to endure a shitload of political interference

Yep!

Mozart is ttally deluded as ever.   So what happeed in tests the Springboks playd in the Tri-Nations in 2007 and what ahppened in teh case of the WC itself in 2007 that turned out to be a farce and the worst perform,ance in all four WC fiunals SA was invovled in.

Let me add - the 1995 word cup final was against the world no 1 team - the 2007 final was against the world number 7 team.   The 2019 WC was against a  team ranked higher than the Springboks,  The 2024 was also in that situation yet his BS spreading is as per normal legendary.

It never happened before 2019 that the team winning the World Cup also won the Tri-Nations or the Rugby Championship replacing it.   So him quoting the issue of Sringbok performances in his selected year is typical of Mozart BS spreading.   He obviously missed out on that issue since he left out th e 2007 Tri-nations that was pertinent in the case of his con argument. 

I am going  to try and see John Smit in Jongensfontein who was captain during the Whole of White's Springbok tenure  and was  Director of Rugby in the year White coached he Sharks as to -

-   which of Ersmus or White were the better Springbok coach;

*   whether if there were a choice by him as to who he would prefer if the choice was between Erasmus and White.

The problem is Mozart suffer continuously from hissy fits about things he has defecive knowledge about.   Add to that he has also a moaning  idiot. 

Dave just to correct you on your Jake posting.

He was very nearly fired as the coach due to politics and not his coaching skills.

Got it.

Good.

AJH

Sorry to differ - but the story came out later in the year - the reason  was the test results of the Boks was sickening in 2006 - for example losing  to the Aussies  46/0 - the worst ressult ever in Tri-Nations history at that time.  The ret entailed losses to France, irelannd and New Zealand.       

I see kwotalisi will retain the captaincy, but to he fair no real opensider in SA. Probably why Buthelezi is there. 

My guess is he will use this squad this year and keep Reincach and Fat for another season or two and then start handing it over to the youngsters. 

Rassie like to have level heads on the field and he made this statement after we lost to Australia. He brought on young players in the last 20 and they couldn't close out the game. 

That is why we see the like of Deon Fourie etc coming on in the 2nd half. 

We might see the Kwagga / Kolisi combo until the next world cup.

Anyway, it is lot like Kolisi ever play a full match or can. He is super unfit and just carries bulk 

Jake won the full TN competition and was with in 5 minutes of winning a second. He was politically undermined in 2006 and nobody cares about this competition in abbreviated WC  years. 

Eluckmiss has never won a full RC/TN in 3 tries.

Advantage Jake.

Not comparing Rassie to Jake.

But do you not recall the political issues that Jake was involved in with the Director of the SARU and the Minister of Sport during his time in charge of the team.

He was even called back to RSA during the RWC to face these guys in Cape Town about the issues that they had with him.

Yes Luke Watson, his father and the Government played a big part in how he was dealt with by the officials.

POLITICAL INTERFERENCE. 

Sadly some folks only give credit to their choices and are reluctant to see or credit others.

Pity.

Luke was useless….Jake dealt perfectly with him…,he didn’t pick him.

Luke wasn’t useless ! 

You just thought he was cute….the ABs treated him like a fluffy toy Becs.

Dave

And so was the rest of the team.   he started off as a school coacjh and thougt that he could treat grown-ups in the same way,   That was why he was a total flop as coach.   In 2014  he divided the time nad for instance the captaain of the previous captain Keegan Daniel of disrupting the team through spreading division between players.   He himself had favorites such as Frans Steyn in the team and when the latter buggered up in games - which frequently happened - he would blame  other players for the bugger-ups.

In the end the 16 players whose contracts have expired refused t renew there contracts as long as White remains as Head coach.   

The public was also infuriated by the Sharks team playing Jake Ball so what really happened that White was told to go.   He ended up coaching Montpellier on a two year contract - he did well in the first eyar at montpellier and flopped in the second year,  Montpellier refused to renew the contract with White because of poor selections and a rugby style that was called Jake Ball.     He then went off to Japan and in the end Rupert and Motsepe became  majority shareholders of the Bulls franchise and aoffered the coaching job to  White - here was something the new owners did - the appointed Brits to see tat the franchise does not self-destruct and also that flaws in coaching and poor teams election be eliminated.

Ha ha ha, Mozart  

No I thought he was a decent player.

A ‘great’ rugby player who lasted for 4 starts under PdV who had every incentive to play him…and then disappeared. Because he simply wasn’t test quality.

A small chap who was hard to distinguish from Craig Davidson the Sharks’  scrummie. His best move was to the Stormers where Schalk did all the hard work and Watson got all the press.

You talk about Mostert being physically inadequate and then you rave about Watson?

Beating Ireland's our immediate goal ............. thereafter commence with rebuild strategies etc.

Good question

We should beat them handily at home….but some of our senior players looked a bit half baked against Wales

There is no ways we will beat them handily at home they are a damn good side

Agree.

the time is now to throw away caution and build that young team immediately

Agree. It's 4 years to the next WC but in reality it's 3 years, the team has to be settled in its 3rd year allowing for a bit of tweaking in its 4th year.

And the Bulls didn’t beat them a few weeks back with 11 or so of the Irish starting team?

Let’s see:

Ringrose (bench)

Henshaw

Lowe

Gibson Park

Porter

Sheehan

Furlong

McCarthy

Mahoney

Van der Flier

Doris

So 10 starters in their final 6 Nations game, 1 on the bench….and Larmour, Ross Byrne, Ryan….all of whom have played for Ireland in the last year.

The only key player missing was Bundi.

Virtually an Irish team beaten by the Bulls. The Boks should take them at home.