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What was positive and what was negative today

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CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2013, 05:28
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29 Sept 2013, 05:28#1

The answer was asked previously and I gave my comments already.   However, there was one thing I left out and that was the question of team selection for the Springboks.

 

In previous postings I pointed out deficiencies in respect of the team and squad as selected by Meyer and I want to return to that selection - that in effect was reflected in performance in the Wallabies game.   I previously pointed out that there are a variety of problems that indicates deficiencies in he team itself.   Those are the following:-

 

*   The one-dimensional Morne Steyn.   The problem basically remain his poor passing game and deficient kicking game out of hand.   As long as he is in the team we will have problems in proper functioning of our backline - but Meyer will never admit that one.

 

*   The functioning of our back row.   That remains a problem - they do not play as a unit and the main problem remains their immobility.    They do not support each other when carrying the ball and gifted 5 penalties to the Aussies today.   It Is relatively easy to clear up that problem - when a player amongst the forwards carries the ball at least one other player should be near enough to ensure that the ball carrier do not get isolated.   That never happens because of the immobility of the loosies.   Much has been said about the so-called power play of the loosies - yet when it comes to ball carrying the average gain per carry is only + 2,2 meters - not really worth their while if the fact is added that in the so-called power play issue resulted in five penalties.  There need to be a change in our loosie combination before we will be really a good functioning unit.

 

*   We cannot go into WC without a strong lock and loosie ombination that can ensure that we can secure line-out balls - we cannot depend only on one line-out jumper like we do at present.  

 

*   The prop situation is basically unacceptable and needs urgent review.   The scrumming today was a joke in bad taste.

 

Meyer seems to have problems in dealing with selection and constantly comes up with players that cannot meet requirements.   I would say the following is urgently needed:-

 

*   Playing a better flyhalf - I think that the one-dimensional Steyn has shown his limitations clearly already.  Lambie would be a better proposition as e is a more dynamic player and can vary play - somethinh Steyn is incapable of.

 

*  The present loosie combination is totally untenable.   Because of injury to Arno Botha we are stuck with to of the present lot.   I would replace Alberts forthwith - we do not need a slow and immobile loosie with serious mobility deficiencies.   I think Labuschagne is the one player that is always there to protect ball carriers and ensure that carriers can place the ball without the threat of turnovers and penalties - in fact that is one of his strongest points in his games - the others being his line-out ball recovery and effective and strong tackling.   When Arno Botha gets back - he should take over the no 8 position.

 

*   We do not need problem cases like Kruger and Van der Merwe at lock.   I would think that the better option is to bring in Pieter-Steph du Toit as a lock and forget about Flip and  Kruger.  The problem is the third lock position - but Elstadt may be an option.

 

*   It is time to forget about Du Plessis and Steenkamp as props - they are way past their sell-by date.   Consideration should be given to Malherbe as the tight head starter  for the EOYT and then consider one of the present franchise players to be on the bench.   Although Beast did not have a great scrumming game today - he is still my first choice as a loose head - with Oosthuizen as back up.

 

The Springbok team has the potential to be the top team in the world - but not with the present impediments -  as mentioned above - weakening it.      

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
29 Sept 2013, 06:29
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29 Sept 2013, 06:29#2
 I would like Labuschagne to get a chance to see what dynamic he can bring to the bok backrow. Ideally off the bench to start with, or against Minnows. 
Although I do think Alberts adds lots of value as a carrier and a tackler. 
Steph du Toit is just back from injury and will get his chance at the end of the year tour.

Steenkamp was ok today, some good carries. He also seemed to fall on the opposition ball carriers and squash them into giving turnovers.


The scrumming  was garbage, most liely the Wallabies cheating.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2013, 12:12
#3
29 Sept 2013, 12:12#3

Sharkbok

 

I agree with you as to Labuschagne.   However, Meyer would never do that - he will stick with the present loosies.   For the rest I am very unhappy with our scrumming and line out and think that Du Toit should start next week.   As to the props - we do not get much from either Du Plessis and Steenkamp.   So I think it would be better to start looking elsewhere.

 

As to Morne Steyn I wish to point out that despite hi good goal kicking - the rest of his game is putrid.   That is reflected by his stats on Foxsport - where in the last three tests he was very poor in overall performance.   Morne will always be Morne a nice guy with serious limitations in flyhalf play.   To my mind we should move forward and forget about him as a flyhalf.   

 

Incidentally Foxsport rated   De Villiers and Engelbrecht as the best two centers yesterday and Wllie as the second best wing - Habana got very little opportunity to perform.   We have an excellent back line - but Morne is the bad apple - who not being a dynamic flyhalf - in fact is the poor cog in the wheel.  

 

I think we shall see what happens in Super 15 next year and what is done with the Sharks flyhalf position and whether Goosen is producing the goods.  I still hope that we can pick a top flyhalf from the likes of Goosen, Lambie and Zeilinga - even Catrakillis is another option.   All of those four are youngsters with a lot of scope for development.   Morne has through he years show his capacity and there was no real improvement in his general performance since he was a young player 7 years ago.   His only real asset remains his kicking at goal - he has nothing   else to show. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 Sept 2013, 12:34
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29 Sept 2013, 12:34#4
One positive Boks got put of this weekend is they know exactly what they need to do to win the Championship . It is a big ask so they will have to play more "total rugby". This is good for their development.I think it will be a tough game & hope we get some answers about  @ what stage Boks are & also some further development of ABs - depth + further development of their style of rugby. We also need to improve in forwards to get ready for NH rugby.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Sept 2013, 23:40
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29 Sept 2013, 23:40#5

One of the biggest issues the Springboks face is the issue of losing self control.

Namely Vermuelen....he appears to have a chip on his shoulder and if he does not get rid of it in a hurry someone is going to assist him in the process.

 

His temper has cost the Springboks plenty by being yellow carded.  

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