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When the Bulls are crap

Started by Saffolk 10 REPLIES482 VIEWS· 25 Mar 2019, 12:45
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2019, 12:45
#1
25 Mar 2019, 12:45#1
They are really crap. Their issue over the past few seasons is inconsistency. They look great one day and pathetic the next. There was no energy it was slow pedantic stuff. Compare that with the energy and speed the Sharks started their game. The Bulls tactics of kicking pointless up and unders served only to hand possession over. I can’t begin to understand why professional players kick up and unders with no one really competing for possession. What’s the fucking point of kicking if everyone stands around looking at the ball in the air without attempting to retrieve it. Players look too scared to put their bodies on the line and compete for the ball. It’s senseless. One gets the impression the Bulls don’t believe they can beat the opposition sometimes and they play like a side with no drive. What a frustrating side to watch at times. They were pathetic
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
25 Mar 2019, 13:00
#2
25 Mar 2019, 13:00#2
It was the worst performance I have ever seen. Some of the players should contemplate retirement. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Mar 2019, 13:06
#3
25 Mar 2019, 13:06#3
They're actually quite consistent. When they play the local teams they're good and when they play overseas teams they crumble.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2019, 13:30
#4
25 Mar 2019, 13:30#4

Many a time i have called out the bools and sai d when playing down under they must not play liked blue calves.

Usually at Loftus they shape up against overseas teams but definitely not this time!

Wow ou rooitwit almost got one right!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2019, 13:40
#5
25 Mar 2019, 13:40#5
Speaks volumes for the coaching staff who can’t change their psyche. Pote hardly inspires me as the man to change that psyche
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
25 Mar 2019, 14:07
#6
25 Mar 2019, 14:07#6
The players would be scared to have delivered that rubbish under John Mitchell. It is a pity he was scooped up by England.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2019, 14:20
#7
25 Mar 2019, 14:20#7

Tempo and tactics to blame for SA wake-up call

A comment from Hurricanes coach John Plumtree when he was asked about what he thought of his team’s progress against the DHL Stormers by the television commentators at the Westpac Stadium may have summed up how little has changed for South African rugby since 1992.

"We need to move their big pack around and if we do that we will be okay," said Plumtree as the Hurricanes started to gain momentum and the Stormers began to look a bit bedraggled as they attempted to contain them.

That was in the middle stages of the first half when the Hurricanes were starting to win ball and the Stormers’ defence was being stretched. It was almost as if every time the Hurricanes had the ball the Stormers just weren’t there. At that point, with the Hurricanes opening a 15-6 lead, it looked like it might be one of those long and humiliating nights for the Stormers such as they experienced on tour over the last two seasons.

That it didn’t turn out that way was because the pack that Plumtree wanted to move around by speeding up play made a strong statement in first phase and with their driving mauls. The Stormers also sorted out their overall defensive effort after halftime, with some good line-speed being injected.

INDIVIDUAL ERRORS

They were let down though in that department by individual errors. It is doubtful that Stormers wing SP Marais will be wanting to watch the video of his attempts to prevent Hurricanes wing Wes Goosen scoring the brace of tries that effectively won it for the hosts. There was a similar moment in the Sharks game against the Rebels, with Aphelele Fassi being the culprit there.

This is mentioned because the standard response from some South African coaches both in victory and defeat is to either let the team’s aggression and physicality take the credit if they win, or to take the blame if they lose.

Vodacom Bulls coach Pote Human was at it after his team’s humiliating defeat to the Chiefs in Pretoria. He felt his team weren’t physical enough. He was wrong. His team just weren’t allowed to place their usual physical stamp on the game because, like the Plumtree comment appeared to telegraph earlier in the day, the Bulls were skinned by the tempo that the Chiefs brought to the game.

If you apply a bit of thought to it, and look at how the Bulls had fared before the Chiefs game and which matches they had lost and won, the defeat perhaps shouldn’t have been as unexpected as it was. Maybe the margin, but not the loss, for everything the Bulls have done so far has been achieved in South African derbies.

As the Stormers found out when they huffed and puffed in the middle stages of the first half in Wellington and before their pack reasserted itself and were thus able to bring enough control to slow the game down, there is a significant difference in the pace at which rugby is played in New Zealand in comparison to South Africa.

Plumtree is right, in the sense that while there have been attempts to upskill South African players and quicken up the local game, there is still a lag.

The best chance of a South African team winning still appears to be to slow the game down - although significantly not on the Highveld, where the Lions and Bulls have outlasted overseas opposition down the years and where a quick game, as was the case in the Lions’ semifinal win against the Hurricanes in 2017 and possibly as recently as last week’s game against the Rebels. This brings the altitude factor more into play.

It was very much a case of South African brawn and physicality against Kiwi efficiency and skill when this country first returned from isolation to resume battle with their fiercest rivals, and on the evidence of this past weekend, nothing has really changed. The New Zealanders are still looking to move the South African packs around as their starting point, and it’s often when they get duped into indulging in a testosterone battle that it goes awry for them.

TACTICAL FAILURE

Not that it was only tempo that sunk the Bulls. There was also a tactical reason why they lost. They had a new fullback, and later in the game they had two wingers who have played much of their top rugby on the sevens circuit.

Rosko Specman has played well since swopping the Blitzbok jersey for the Bulls’ light blue, but he still has a lot to learn about the conventional code. When the Bulls are asked to defend in their own half, which they were at the weekend, that becomes a problem.

Indeed, that takes us back to the earlier statement asking readers to think about which games the Bulls have won and which they have lost.

It was a different game because it was played in wet weather, but the Bulls were every bit as abjectly poor in Buenos Aires in the second round as they were against the Chiefs. Excuse the pun, but they looked like fish out of water there because of the areas of the field where the game was played.

For all the culture change that has been evident at Loftus in the past few years, there are some basic tenets of their game that remain the same. They need to dictate territory and from that dictate the scoreboard.

There were some watching the game at Loftus or on television who probably held out hopes of a great Bulls comeback, like the one the Lions achieved against the Rebels the week before, but that was never going to happen. How often do the Bulls come from behind to win a game? If it’s happened it hasn’t happened often.

NOT JUST KIWI TEAMS LOOK TO SPEED IT UP

In that sense they are a bit like the Sharks, who put a massive effort into gaining early physical ascendancy against the Rebels at King’s Park. Incidentally, although they are not a Kiwi team, the Australians employed the same modus operandi - it was very noticeable to those at the Durban game how determined the Rebels were to speed the game up.

This was evident not just in the style of play employed, but in the time taken between lineouts, something which unfortunately, because of all the TMO and other interruptions in modern rugby, is not often in the players’ hands.

Sharks coach Robert du Preez blamed a lack of physicality and aggression for the successive defeats to the Stormers and the Bulls, so it was quite predictable that he should mention physical dominance as one of the primary factors in his team’s turn-around.

TOO MANY EGGS IN ONE BASKET

Of course the obvious question that follows is that if physical dominance is such an imperative, what happens on the day when the Sharks are fronted?

We got that answer in their games against the Stormers and Sharks, and frankly, while the Sharks’ determination did get them the result against the Rebels, you have to wonder if the Sharks have the material, in the second row in particular, to really bank everything on forward control.

The Sharks may well have an upswing in fortunes when both Ruan Botha and Jean-Luc du Preez are fit again. But they may be making a mistake if, as appears to be the case, they bank everything on physically beating up their opponents and don’t continue the early season work on the attacking dynamic that was supposedly going to be introduced by new attack coach David Williams.

The big winners among the South African teams this past weekend were arguably the Emirates Lions, in the sense that it would have been with a sense of foreboding that they travelled to Singapore. A 13-point win was a good return for them, even though they also did it the old fashioned South African way, which was to select big ball carriers to grind it out.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2019, 15:51
#8
25 Mar 2019, 15:51#8
This article sort of gets it, but not quite. We have parity, maybe a slight edge in the tight five....NZ has a competitive advantage in the back three, maybe in every back position. Our tactics should therefore be to deny the All Blacks space for those backs to operate. Simple right? But it's very hard to execute and has non obvious implications: 1 We can't beat the ABs without being competitive at the breakdown....having a bunch of gigantic loosies usually doesn't cut it. They are easily tipped off the ball. 2 We cant u&u without a skilled kick chase.....better to kick long into the corners and force play back towards touch. 3 Our grubber kicks have to be short....long grubbers open up their back 3. 4 We must push our attacking zone forward....phase play against an organized AB defence in our 22 almost always blows up. 5 But we need to be effective ball in hand.....even if we limit it to the opponents 60m and in zone. Crash ball has it's role, but only to commit the defence.....we should be able to offload/cut in at pace/wrap around/double wing. Just because an opponent is better on attack, doesn't mean they cant be exploited on defence. We have one attacking play....the rolling maul. And it's quite effective, if Stephanie had taken his lineout towards the death the Stormers should have won on Saturday. They had mauled it over several other times. But get a ref who allows a vigorous maul defence and your weapon is gone....we need more. But for even that to work we need breakdown competitiveness and the ability to offload.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2019, 16:27
#9
25 Mar 2019, 16:27#9
My biggest rugby bugbear is the launch of U&U with no player really competing for the ball. It’s one thing chasing but no point if you are too chicken shit to compete for it. The Bulls are psychologically not up to taking on the NZ sides, they don’t believe they can beat them and it shows. Had they gone in with the right frame of mind and played with the required confidence and energy it would have been a competitive game. The toothless Bulls conceded before kick off and it showed. It’s pathe really and unfortunately a product of what has become of SA rugby as a whole. We have been too long handicapped by the quota system and far too many average coaches in our game. The Bulls have no excuse at the breakdown, they have Brits and Vermeulen plus Steenkamp their 6 is meant to be an out and out fetcher but an average one at that. He is dumb muscle.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2019, 19:12
#10
25 Mar 2019, 19:12#10

The real problems are mentioned with one omission - the fact is the captaincy of Pollard is deficient and they are missing a real captain that can help the team to play as a team.  They are missing Lood De Jager badly. 

The other problem is their loosies - they have none worth their salt,   Too slow and too stupid to understand the game.   

There wings are problematic - Hendriks may have been good enough in his prime - but he is useless at present,   Speckman is a 7's player and he should have remained a 7's player - physically not up to standard in the 15 man game.   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Mar 2019, 00:01
#11
26 Mar 2019, 00:01#11
Crap it’s not down to the captain it’s down to the belief of the whole squad
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