Where are our members missing the boat when discussing rugby players

I had the privilege of discussing rugby issues - especially relating to the present team with one of the present Springboks this afternoon.  A nice guy and deadly honest about issues and very straightforward.

I asked him about Erasmus as a coach and he said he is an improvement on the two coaches he played under before Erasmus.   He said the man knows how to inspire players to give their maximum.   That is really what a good coach needs to be.   He knows the game inside out and the players think he can give them the best advice on how to play and achieve the team's objectives.   

He was shocked when I mentioned that some members on site criticize Du Toit endlessly.   According to him Du Toit is one of the best players he ever played with and an absolute essential in the team.   He also said Du Toit is a very good communicator and an essential part of the team leadership - a very pleasant person who gets along with all the players and are respected by them as well.

The other players I mentioned were De Allende and  Mostert.   His only comment on De Allende was that he is a good player and  his work on the field is appreciated by his teammates.    When it came to Mostert I mentioned that I think he is too light as a lock and he made zero comments on that,   I also refer to De Jager as a lock and he said he is very good.  

So talking to a team player it is clear that the players themselves seem to have a different view of their teammates than are written on site by some of our site members.                 

I didn't realise Meyer Bosman's mother was in the current Springbok team. 

 Sorry Dullards  - I thought as per normal you missed the us\issues raised  totally.   I can assure you it is a springbok starting player I spoke to and what he said is what I wrote above, 

So when are you going to post a rugby contribution dofdoos in response   to rugby issues?  U suppose never - because you have a total void when it cones to rugby as a game/      

You Bok contact Mike must be genuine as he agrees very largely with me.

Who said it was Malherbe?    Anyway that is not important - what was is what came out during  discussion during which I accosted nobody,   I just said what some members on this forum wrote on site - not giving their users names.  In the main he was amazed about what you and your fellow non-thinkers come up with.  

I just summarized above and did not dealt with what his reaction was about your  20 minute statement  - he just laughed.   Rank stupidity caused hilarity,

However, it is no use to try and sideline the discussion.  There were some pertinent points  raised above and you did not or could not respond in even a half-decent manner.   So what response have you got on what the player told me?  

Flab  Malherbe does not have our usernames, thank heavens for that . 

We can't say the same with Meyer Bosman's mother who is usually also the first to know the starting Bok team each week

Did you speak to him about Jantjies, Kolisi and Frans Steyn. 

No need to SB.   Jantjies is not the first choice flyhalf anyway abd Frans Steyn has not been in contention since 2012.    

Mozart

what has your comments to do with who I spoke to?  Zero at all,   It was what especially you and some of your co-idiots spout on site about players that was the foremost on my mind and which I referred to,   

Why should it necessarily be a Stormers player anyway?   What has provincialism to do with team selection?

Obviously the first player I referred to was Du Toit - being he player you constantly attack for the past 5 years and I did not mention the silliness about long neck, thin shoulders and wrists I did not mention since I did not want to discredit the forum and the reference was to performance,   

I mentioned De Allende as well and he said there are aspects of the game that I ignore when I was critical of De Allende.    He was vey clear about that one too and I left it there.

No amount of sidelining the issue is wat one would take away what was raised under the thread.   Another thing - was De Jager ever a WP player?   

Sorry - but I think the comments were more in line with the nonsense spouted on site that I referred to in discussions.    He asked me about the site itself and I gave the reference to him = maybe he wants to see what could be amusing him that he was interested in.         

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Mike, you really should try to make peace with the fact that not everyone will ever feel the same about any given rugby player. We all have our biases, whether we want to admit it or not. Sometimes just the way a player looks or behaves can trigger something in us that makes it impossible to be objective about them. Don't try to force a square peg into a round hole.

There are a few on here that rate themselves as knowledgeable rugby fundies ... and yet they embarrass themselves on a regular basis with comments on Mohoje vs McCaw ... or the Nik Naks Man vs Folau ... or even Morne Steyn vs Dan Carter ...etc ...

Some so called experts on here even go as far as to insist the inclusion of the elderly who had a bit of a run 15 years ago ... and what's really scary is that they insist on being taken seriously.

Others argue for the sake of arguing no matter the evidence. Take you as an example, Mike. Film footage that clearly shows where the first contact was made (5m line) was simply beyond your grasp ... and you argued for weeks on end.

I see you didn't mention the name of the one you spoke to, Mike. Why is that?

The title of this thread should be amended to "Where are we missing the boat ... blah, bah, blah ... " ... so that it includes you as part of the deluded bunch.

Just saying ...

CC

Surely it includes me as well - I express personal opinions as well - but try and not going on and on about players at present playing.  

But then there is at present nothing much to discuss rugby-wise - so I thought it would be interesting.   I was not even mildly critical of De Allende  -  I was severely so, but the player concerned did not agree with me   So what can one say?

Look at what Mike's Bok contact said. The Bok, like Beeno knows his stuff for sure!

He was shocked (As well he might be!) when I mentioned that some (ignorant , biased members that is!) members on site criticize Du Toit endlessly.   According to him Du Toit is one of the best players he ever played with and an absolute essential in the team.   He also said Du Toit is a very good communicator and an essential part of the team leadership - a very pleasant person who gets along with all the players and are respected by them as well.

The other players I mentioned were De Allende and  Mostert.   His only comment on De Allende was that he is a good player and  his work on the field is appreciated by his teammates.(fair comment of course)    When it came to Mostert I mentioned that I think he is too light as a lock and he made zero comments on that,   I also refer to De Jager as a lock and he said he is very good.  (again fair comment. The oaks loving 105 kg backline wannabee "locks' wont agree of course)

Mike please keep in contact with your Bok friend and lets from him again. Much education of certain board members is needed, Cerudunce wi ndpomp is all at sea again!

Windpomp what are you on about. Guess it was, if it happened, a major issue to you and a minor one for me. He ahngs on my every word of course!

Great pity ou windpomper doesn't know as much about rugby as he does about politics! Few can be masters of both of course !

Dofdoos

Yes the conversation did take place and lasted for about an hour and a half.   However, that is not the issue - why not comment on the rugby issues raised..  But the latter is a bit much to xpec from you.

What a charming thread!!!

Mike 

I'm just glad that you never decided to be a spy. It'd have been a waste of tax payer money and your time.

You'd have exhaled state secrets with every breath.

Lol, Maaik, as subtle as an apocalyptic meteorite.

Mike has a good Bok source who knows how good Steph is and that a lot more than some oaks here know.

Dr Moz should use his consi derable talents when it comes to mole spotting . JW proved to be a complete DUD.