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Where have all the Springbok supporters gone?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Aug 2013, 16:20
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26 Aug 2013, 16:20#1

I was reading Redschild's tearful little whine about refs lower down the page and - at the risk of blubbering crybabies like Baboon-ou and Sharktwat whimpering about me being an All Black supporter again - I have to say I find the responses of South African posters on that thread really embarrassing. The Aussies I can understand but what's happened to the real Springbok supporters? Have they all been replaced overnight by snot-nosed and tearful little crybabies?

 

First off, contrary to what known idiots like Baboon-ou and Sharktwat would have you believe, I am a passionate Springbok supporter . . . yes, "passionate" is the word I'd use! I'm a far more passionate Springbok supporter than the simpering little drips on all the ref-bashing or "cheating ABs" threads. The likes of Teaspoon and Bugganut seem to have joined the ever-increasing chorus of Spri . . . sorry, I can't actually bring myself to use the words "Springbok supporters" to describe these pathetic little snivellers . . . let's just call them excuse-making pretend-rugby-fans for now . . . who don't have the vaguest idea of the long, proud and fiercely contested rivalry between the Springboks and the All Blacks that has been going on for nearly a century now.

 

What must the Kiwis think of this new breed of disrespectful "Springbok supporter" who is always stamping his weak-arsed little foot in self-righteous indignation, whose eyes are always welling up with tears of self pity and whose lower lip is permanently quivering not only when the Bokke lose a game, but even lately when the All Blacks win?

 

Springbok players and fans from the past must be turning in their graves as they listen to these snivelling little mincers droning on and on about the naughty refs who always favour the opposition, the horrid IRB officials who conspire against us and - most of all - the beastly and  nasty old All Blacks who are always cheating. The only Springbok or All Black supporters who have a legitimate gripe about reffing are the unfortunate New Zealanders back in 1976 who had to watch Gert Bezuidenhout rob them in a display of home-town reffing that caused the IRB to adopt neutral referees. Most rugby followers can grudgingly acknowledge that refereeing mistakes do happen but also that they've been evenly distributed over the years since neutral refs were adopted . . . but this new phenomenon of bleating about other nations cheating is just too pathetic for words.

 

Where are the real Springbok supporters? Where are the rugby lovers who still respect the "manne in die swart truie" and who have the grace (and the balls) to acknowledge that the All Blacks have simply been better than us since isolation? Those are the kind of supporters the Springboks need if they're going to conquer the mighty All Blacks and take their rightful place at the top of world rugby . . . not these bleating little sissy-boys with their weak little victim-mentalities and their pathetic excuses.

 

If we're going to collectively bury our heads in the sand and pretend that every single Super 15 or Rugby Championship defeat is because the New Zealanders cheat or if we're going to burst into tears and whine about conspiracy theories every time a ref makes a wrong decision that goes against us (while we shut up about the 50% of decisions that do go our way) then we're going to slip further and further behind and we're never going to set the record straight.

 

Man up for goodness sake! Rugby is a game for tough men who understand things like honour and sportsmanship . . . not for excuse-making little crybabies like the majority of blubbering South African posters on this message board.

 

It's a disgrace! No wonder the Kiwi posters are laughing at us. Have some flipping self-respect and stop behaving like a bunch of crybabies!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2013, 16:44
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26 Aug 2013, 16:44#2
Oh the guy who claimed the Boks had no chance at the RWC07 is back. And why did RooiAAS think we had no chance, why was he blubbering about Jake and our rugby style? Why because Pierre Spies got injured, as if Spies ever made a difference in a big test. So when the AAS suggests other posters man up....you might suggest he is being a hypocrite. - But speaking about our noble AB opponents who the AAS thinks never cheat or play dirty I came across this classic this morning: - "All Black coach Steve Hansen suggested controversial midfielder Ma'a Nonu had an 'injured' shoulder, which caused him to execute an illegal tackle." - That little sentence says more than the RooiAAS book.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Aug 2013, 16:59
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26 Aug 2013, 16:59#3

 

Yeah … I’m very much in favour of taking it on the chin … and have said so on a few occasions.

 

The New Zealanders are an amazing rugby nation. Deserving of our respect. They are the bench mark all teams measure themselves to.

 

Constantly crying foul drives me insane.  It’s just plain bad sportsmanship. One would expect that from the Ozzies and … well … Beano … who has always struck me as confused and spineless.

 

The game of rugby should never be overly regulated ... it takes so much away from it.

 

I realise that at times cheating does show it face occassionally, however that being said, I cannot accept that it's become the norm.  

 

Just wish we'd get our act together so that we can compete at the level I know we're capable of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:02
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26 Aug 2013, 17:02#4
And Ferrari is a great Formula One team, but nobody manipulates the playing field more successfully.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:05
#5
26 Aug 2013, 17:05#5

 Mozart: yes Hansen likes to have a cheeky  go at the press with his dry wit from time to time ;) sometimes it doesn't come off :)

Mozart your Boks need to play like your namesake. If not him them Beethoven's 9th or even Wagner if you want more of the heavy dark side. But right now Boks are playing like a jug band with a wash board a tea chest base accompanied by a few scheeching suprano fans. As some might say It is unseemly I tell you, simply unseemly, lol

Just joking Mozart but it is time go another tune:)

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:08
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26 Aug 2013, 17:08#6

 No decent rugger fan begrudges another their supporting their team , proper Rugby men  and women want nothing but a fair go from refs and other fans .If my team wins I do as has been driven home to me since I was a small lad playing my first game and never gloat but shake hands cheer the other side off and what hAppens on the paddock stays there .My first thought after a game is to commiserate with the losing side and congratulate the winners , thats how its supposed to be we leave the rubbish to the other codes .

Mackenzie and his fans whining about refs is disgusting when they have no case to make but use this rubbish to deflect from themselves , Abs fans were pretty damn pissed off after 2007 and carried on as fans are wont to do but not a word from the ABS or their management about barnes [ who famously told his touchies in a winebar how he had "put the All Blacks out of the World Cup "] I can only imagine what fatty mack would have done ,probably stroked out !

I have allways admired the Boks fan passion so like our own in some ways but as Rooinek says they are losing the plot a bit , the old enemy of my enemy crap that is the mark of a beaten side is not what I would expect from bok fans !

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:20
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26 Aug 2013, 17:20#7

CC, I've never understood the concept of "cheating" in rugby.

 

If "cheating" means breaking the laws of the game then we all know that those infringements are punished by a free kick or a penalty so instead of bleating about "cheating", the crybabies should be happy when an opposing player puts his hands in the ruck or strays offside.

 

If "cheating" is simply another long and tearful rant about refereeing injustices then I can only repeat what I've said countless times already, that referees are not perfect and they will make mistakes but over a period of time those mistakes even themselves out. I don't believe there are any blatantly crooked refs out there and I'm not sure how stupid or naive you'd have to be to think that a cheating referee would survive in the IRB elite panel if he consistently favoured one country or another.

 

The panel of international referees at any given time represents the best qualified, most competent and most even-handed referees that we are capable of producing and these guys work just as hard as any player works to get to the very top level. Only a complete moron would think that any top ref would work that hard to get into the IRB panel of referees just to piss his career away because he had some agenda to exert some bias for or against any one team or country. Surely only blithering idiots like Baboon-ou believe that?

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:22
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26 Aug 2013, 17:22#8

Hi wardad, how's it going mate :) ?

wife & I are driving thu Germany hence the reference to German composers,, lol. We are products of our environment eh? 

Agree with you absolutely on how to behave re rugby! It's what we were taught & have tried to teach our kids. Boks fans used to be the same & probably still are underneath a thin layer of beano :) 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:37
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26 Aug 2013, 17:37#9
Ah that was humour, not an excuse Just Win. Now if we had an interpreter I wouldn't have any problem. Of course all the references to the forward pass in the NZ loss to France would also have to go....but maybe that was just Henry's dry sense of humour? - Enjoy your drive, watch your mirrors going into the fast lane and forget about that imposter Beethoven.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:46
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26 Aug 2013, 17:46#10

 

No argument there Rooinek ...

 

Working hard, for many a year toward being added to the highly sought after panel, only to throw it away, just doesn't make sense.  Deliberately cheating ... ??? It's not logical.

 

The bits of human error adds to the match. Somedays it will favour us ... other days it will go against us. That's the game of rugby.

 

Having someone slam you with a few uppercuts in the scrum, drawing blood or at a ruck adds to the game as far as I'm concerned. It gives the game of rugby character. It sets it apart from all other sport. Today I walk away with a blood nose. Tomorrow you may walk away with a bloody mouth and a few teeth left on the park.

 

I'll enjoy your toothy grin at the pub afterwards.

 

We've become soft. We cry so easily now-a-days.

 

Sometimes I think it would have been better if I had been born 50 or so years earler ... when men were men and whimps like beano would have been sorted out promptly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Aug 2013, 17:52
#11
26 Aug 2013, 17:52#11

 Just-win bro ,Guten Tag !glad you and the missus are well and enjoying life ! I was thinking of going to the WC but spent my money on a beautiful little Mitsubishi Colt Cabriolet convertible  for my missus who was realy down after her dad passed away ,oh well still money well spent "sighs".Man that German tucker is the bees kneees baby ! all that luvverly sausages and wursts ! Get onto theNurbergring for a spin ,apparently its awesome even for non rev-heads ! failing that ythe Auto-bahn is the go I hear !

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2013, 18:09
#12
26 Aug 2013, 18:09#12

 Wardad: hope the new car does the trick, you certainly gave up a lot for it!

cloudy: always nice to know you our gun toting lady is here :) yes, road trips are g8. We have a 2001 BMW & it just loves the autobahn - it consumes the road & loves it :)

mozart: good one mate :) but if not Beethoven' then Wagner - Mozart is to light for the Bok persona :)

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2013, 19:20
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26 Aug 2013, 19:20#13

Vintage rooitwit! Does he really believe all this dribbble. No rooitwit I do not believe every ab win arose from cheating but many do. So dont make up a ficticious case - bwahahahahaha 

Also if you think cheating doesnt exist you are dafter than a hatter. To help you ask yourself was there any cheating at the tour de france. What convinces you there is no cheating in rugby when there are refs like BL.

Hahahhahaahhaha you are a closet ab supprter - just admit it.

Hey Cloudy aren't you laying it on a bit too thick re rooitwit and CC - "well thought out and intelligent posts". Hilarious stuff!  Ou rooitwit will be in seventh HEAVEN AS ALL HE WANTS IS A BIT OF KIWI RECOGNITION AND A PAT ON THE HEAD. 

Rooitwit you are too scared to defend the Boks against cheating refs. The sharks can be robbed blind and you will ALSO say zip. Man grow a backbone please.  Your abysmal record on the subject speaks for itself.

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
26 Aug 2013, 20:15
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26 Aug 2013, 20:15#14

Cloudy its just banter. Anyone getting mad over words on a screen should get a bloody life. South Africans have been used to 100 years of domestic rivalry where WP supporters would support Kiwi teams than the BUlls so intense was the rivaly. The banter may appear crude or they don't like you its not that just how we are but you can have a beer anytime at my place and you will receive the greatest hospitality with a smile.

 

And no we don't hate the AB. The Boertjies fucking hate the Poms. Really fucking hate them. We enjoy NZ for the challenge and they play it hard. You should really read Wayne Smith article about 2009 after they got beaten in those 3 tests and where he found respect for SA.  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2013, 20:16
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26 Aug 2013, 20:16#15

Cloudy: I've got a plan for that, ie cheap polish labour, lol we will see how that works out :)

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