Where is Andre Esterhuizen? There was a rumour that he would not play CC rugby fr the Sharks and that he has gone off to play soft rugby in Japan.
That is probably true - because he ahs not played for the Sharks recently.
So we will have to wait for the Super Rugby series in 2019 to witness the absolute brilliance AO claims he has. One can hardly wait to see whether he is a failure like Steyn was in 2013 , 2014 and 2015 as a center.
Why don't you review the entire test season thus far. He comprehensively outplayed Damian, and was one of the best backs in the RC.
Damian ought to go to Japan. They place importance on skills and decision making. They run great lines and play at a faster pace than Super rugby. It would undoubtedly improve his game, bringing it closer to the demands of test rugby.
Balls as per normal - another wild statements without any prove whatsoever. Your ability to identify player performances are totally blinded by prejudice and consequently worthless. That is typical of your rating of Fat Fransie in 2014 as the best SA 12 when factually there were three better performers than him and when he was no 32 on the performance of centers list in 2014.
The fact is you have like Mozart a pet hate list - where actual performance counts for nothing and where average performance by other players not on the list is turned into brilliant performance.
I actually said Serfontein was the form 12 in 2014.
Now Meyer has a hate list? When will you grow up? I can barely believe I am conversing with someone so much older than myself.
Sorry - I made a mistake and changed it. Mozart is the one who has such a list. You know that you are totally obsessed with certain players.
By the way - when did any backline player returned from Japan with better ball skills and retained fitness levels? You came up with BS which is rarely shown by the Sunwolves - what is more often the case is that there are fitness level problems,
I am always amazed how it is possible that you, Mozart and Pakie watch one game and the rest of the world another one. The assessments you come up with is totally at odds with reality and never change. In your case you sometimes change your tune, but the BS is back 24 hours later. That gave you a semblance of reasonableness and something to fall back on when exposed. Take the Kriel - Am story. You praised Kriel and a day alter you wanted him out of the squad and Am in,
Sorry - I made a mistake and changed it. Mozart is the one who has such a list. You know that you are totally obsessed with certain players. Meyer has an incomtent list of players he wanted in the squads always and got stuck on.
By the way - when did any backline player returned from Japan with better ball skills and retained fitness levels? You came up with BS which is rarely shown by the Sunwolves - what is more often the case is that there are fitness level problems,
I am always amazed how it is possible that you, Mozart and Pakie watch one game and the rest of the world another one. The assessments you come up with is totally at odds with reality and never change. In your case you sometimes change your tune, but the BS is back 24 hours later. That gave you a semblance of reasonableness and something to fall back on when exposed. Take the Kriel - Am story. You praised Kriel and a day alter you wanted him out of the squad and Am in,
I am always amazed how it is possible that you, Mozart and Pakie watch one game and the rest of the world another one.
Actually Mike, aside from a minor difference of opinion here and there, no one on this board other than you have a problem with what I post, and you are also the only one who accuses me of dishonesty, tampering, deceit, etc.
You can't fix your shattered reputation on this board by discrediting other posters. That only makes it worse for yourself.
No they do not have a problem - they merely ignore the BS. I should do the same.
No, they actually actively support me against you. I'm talking about guys like Xavi, Bluebok, BokBF, to name a few recent examples. Are you now going to question their integrity as well?
I've challenged you time and again to back up your accusations against me with evidence. You have never produced a shred. You just resort to ad hominem and diversion when challenged.
But yes, please ignore me. You can start by not dragging my name into threads all over the board where I'm not involved while making up shit about what I said or didn't say.
Lügnerin, you are making a fool of yourself. You have exposed nothing. At the very peak of your powers you are the organic equivalent of CNN.
The very best post you could make. I hope to see more of these moving forward. Its the most honesty I've seen from you.
It really is a proper response to BS you come up with - should try the same in future.
Pakie, just for the record, I have great respect for your integrity and for the technical analysis you present from time to time.
I know Mike is wrong about your motives.
Lügnerin isn't cut out for debate and is well out of his depth.
Thanks Draad, appreciate it.
Pakie
I have not seen any case where Mozart and AO criticized a player nd you did not jump in to support them. Similarly there never was a case where you criticized a player on your own or if somebody else did you did not support the version of the two mentioned.
You have done a number of analysis over the last year and those include a continuous attack on De Allende started in 2015 and the same with Du Toit, You always supported Louw and did one as well to support the AO and Mozart BS.
If you can point out any case where you differed from the two most prejudiced members on site - please tell me when it happened and I would credit you for showing impartiality in approach to players. Thus far there were none in evidence.
Until then your analysis can never be trusted since it is based on prejudice and therefore not reliable at all.
Pakie
I have asked you one simple question - name one case where you performance studies were not initiated by Mozart and AO and when the following was not involved:
* Damian de Allende
* P-S du Toit
When I criticized the performance of Louw in June - you rushed in to support Mozart and Pakie when they wrote praise songs about Louw.
Sorry - your record is not very clean when it comes t o bias - so I insist that you answer the simple question I put to you.
Pakie, you are underselling yourself. Unlike most of us, you have actual coaching experience and qualifications. You are also quite mild tempered. I know that you know the game better than me; so too the elusive Xavi, who is also a coach.
We are lucky to have people here who can significantly increase the quality of discussions, and they are treated like dirt. I had in mind to post alot more analytical material, but seeing how Lügnerin dragged the excellent work of Pakie down, one has to wonder, why bother? You give the man a platform to form a retort and he will insult you and behave like a baby. Read through my posts, you'll see that I ask alot of questions. Who takes the opportunity to express something richer than the old mud sling? Certainly not Freifrau.
I know his type very well. The cry bully. Too hyper emotional. What attack gave we formed against players? I think you'll find Moz, Pakie and I never discuss the person behind the rugby player when making these assessments and we always have established reasons for our positions. Interesting that those who resort to video evidence are those who are hated the most by Lügnerin. What greater evidence can there be? When I was called a liar and a hateful prejudiced expletive about Steph's defence, I posted a video showing what I had talked about. What did we hear from him? I "made it look like Steph couldn't defend". Me or the video?
Herr Lügnerin needs to up his game. He also needs to move on from the past. His tribe x; tribe y mentality is letting him down. So too his gross dishonesty.
@Bluebok: You'd be surprised how good André really is. I've been late posting the videos of these two, but I will get around to it. He isn't the imposing figure Frans was, that kind of x factor player, but he is a workhorse and does the hard yards with ease. A powerful man who creates a platform for the rest of the backs. Rassie is a fool for demoting him for someone who has done so little at any point in his test career. He'll be let down the same way Meyer was. Rassie is fortunate to have two quality centres come through right as he starts his tenure. The first two centres who look test quality since Frans, Jean and Fourie, and he is wasting them.
Auge, thanks, but I just need to correct you: I've never coached. I know Xavi does, also wish he'd be a little more involved here.
name one case where you performance studies were not initiated by Mozart and AO
So what Mozart and AO raise an issue it is an immediate excuse to do an analysis to support their ravings? Honest admission at last.
Who do you think you are Lügnerin? The Tzar of Ruckers?
If he wants to do an analysis of a player he is free to do it as and when he pleases regarding anyone he chooses. I have a better idea, seeing as you are retired, why don't you get up off your backside and do some ground work before you mash your keyboard in another fit of rage?
And here we have it, an admission that posters hold back information because of the coddled baby at Ruckers who demands compliance. Lügie, you stifle discussions and degrade the quality of what's posted.
@Pakie: My bad, I was certain I read you did some coaching. I must have mixed something up from Xavi. Either way, your analysis posts are excellent. The angrier Lügnerin is, the more on point you are. Think of him as a metal detector.
Cheers Pakie and Auge. I usually read through the threads on my tea/lunch breaks and will occasionally add something if it hasn't been brought up yet.
A lot of the guys here pretty much have everything covered in any case.
Sometimes it devolves into a bit of a Oom Mike turkey shoot and you guys are basting that old buzzard regularly. Sometimes He doesn't need your help, let alone mine to roast himself.
I enjoy your analysis and videos. Great work and much appreciated.
Keep on keeping on.
Neutral arbiter?????????? Are you nuts - when somebody agree with Mozart and you they are neutral??????????
People can say what they like about Brad Barrits attacking prowess but he has to be the best 12 in defense SA has produced.
The man is a wall, razor wire, Alsations and spotlight on defence.
We can easily see who the clog is. Look at Lügnerin's posts, how often does he open up with an insult. "You stupid, worthless, BSer" amongst others. He can't debate. Totally incapable. He turns up to a gun fight with a dribble on his bib, then wonders where it all went wrong.
AO
Debating anything with you is impossible - nobody can debate anything with a person who has an absolute;y closed mind. Add to that a person who dreams of things that never happened on the field of play and then claimed it did happen.
Debating is for people with open minds dealing with real issues that happened or may happen in future. That is why debating anything with Mozart and you are totally impossible.
Debating with us is impossible for you because we will push you for more information. I ask simple questions and you runaway from each and every one o f them. You are caught in lies and errors on a daily basis and become personal when we don't accept this nonsensical garbled mess. I can see that you are used to getting what you want, that you need to be surrounded by yes men. I assure you, I'll never be such a person. I also don't let would be bullies of the hook.
As I have said many times, you have to up your game. You are too sloppy and dishonest. You'd bring less heat on yourself if you weren't the little boy throwing stones in glass houses. Insult a person, and they'll naturally smack the glass jaw you dangle in front of them. Ende.
@ Mozart.
Here's an article about De Jonghs progress this season.
I'm glad to see him thriving. He was one of Meyer's mistakes, in that he was discarded too hastily. Very underrated in SA.
Well, I don't see JdJ letting the Boks down and with Rassie being a bit low on the Q side, why not give JdJ a look?
Yes Moz, JdJ had some sort of mental block when playing for the Boks.
He is fine in a backline where the rest of the players aren't midgets too.
He was solid on the EOYT of 2012. Our defence was excellent and helped seal it shut. What we got in 2013 with JJ was the complete opposite. You'll struggle to compete with the best teams if you have a defensively weak 13.
Juan is one of the best defensive 13s I have ever seen. We seldom produce players who can read the game like he does, especially at centre. Am is the first such player to emerge in quite a few years. So, they don't come. Around very often.
