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Started by Chippo11 REPLIES662 VIEWS· 20 Feb 2018, 16:41
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
20 Feb 2018, 16:41
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20 Feb 2018, 16:41#1

Former Springbok coach Jake White says SA Rugby should heed advice from South Africa’s new President Cyril Ramaphosa.

Ramaphosa delivered his inaugural State of the Nation address in Cape Town last Friday.

This followed the resignation of former President Jacob Zuma, who stepped down after being recalled by the African National Congress (ANC).

White, who currently coaches Japanese side Toyota Verblitz, took note of Ramaphosa's speech and feels several of the points raised can be applied for the greater good of South African rugby.

“SA Rugby should almost copy and paste his speech and swap political terms with words like ‘rugby’, ‘schools’, ‘clubs’, ‘players’ and ‘administrators’,” White wrote via a column for the All Out Rugby website.

White continued: “He said his words were not lip service and that things would be measured, and he spoke about taking ownership of that. And that’s exactly what we need in SA Rugby - people taking ownership and responsibility for getting it right.

“The President said he’s not going to tolerate corruption and one of the things that resonated with me is that he said no government member is going to be involved in procurement. Instead, there will be a special committee to deal with procurement. It should be the same in our rugby - no jobs for pals.”

White also hinted that the rugby governing body should bring in new personnel.

“We’re all eager to see who the President appoints to work with him in rolling out his plans and we’re all hopeful he’ll pick the best people for the job. It shouldn’t be any different in SA Rugby - hiring the best people for the job and having the people in charge who take responsibility for achieving the objectives. He spoke about transformation, equality and getting the most out of the youth. That goes hand in hand with rugby.”


In December last year, White had also hit out at SA Rugby top brass when he called for a full review of its board. White questioned that Allister Coetzee, who was subsequently sacked as Springbok coach, should not carry all the blame for the team's woes.

Coetzee won only 11 of 25 Tests in charge of the national team (44% win-ratio) and was relieved of his duties earlier this month.

White also criticised SA Rugby for hiring people "without even asking them to apply for positions".

The 54-year-old coached the Springboks between 2004 and 2007, but his contract was not renewed despite winning the 2007 Rugby World Cup.

He has also coach the Brumbies, Sharks and Montpellier.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Feb 2018, 17:17
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20 Feb 2018, 17:17#2

The best people for the job. What a novel idea for the new racist South Africa. I will believe t when I see it.  Ditto the rooting out of corruption. The anc is totally corrupt. How in any event did Cyril make his billions?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Feb 2018, 17:24
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20 Feb 2018, 17:24#3
The notion that Rasssie is running things but isn’t the head coach is the first step away from transparency. How much control does he have....if things go wrong who is the blame, Rassie or the coach? We all know who will get the credit if things go well. We need accountability, one hands-on leader, it’s management 101.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Feb 2018, 22:17
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20 Feb 2018, 22:17#4

We all know who doesn't give Rassie any credit!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Feb 2018, 22:50
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20 Feb 2018, 22:50#5
He needs to take the reigns, front up....be the leader, not the man behind the mirror. Jake, Eddie, Ackerman, Hansen don’t have BS jobs like Director of Rugby which is viewed as so irrelevant that it’s been left vacant for years. It means taking the flak, taking on the politicians....being there for your players. Not running at the first sign of adversity. Can Rassie do that? Who knows, but I’m damn sure the team can’t have a figurehead with Rassie behind the mirror,
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Feb 2018, 02:37
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21 Feb 2018, 02:37#6

I agree to a large extent top what White wrote above,  but the comments of Mozart is a per normal slanted and in a way an assumption without grounds.   Most Northerb Hemisphere Clubs have Directors of Rugby,   As such the coach effectively  falls organizationally  under such Directors - but it is not always clear what those Directors role is in coaching,

For instance Rassie was the Director of Rugby of Munster - when the Munster coach suddenly died Rassie took over he coaching role in full  which up to the end of December was the case.

The job was not vacant for years - it became vacant when Rassie left SARU to join Munster,

You obviously can make your own deductions - but then it should be based on  facts and not on BS,          .     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Feb 2018, 03:51
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21 Feb 2018, 03:51#7
Yeah sure Tokkie.....and de Jongh missed 29 % of his test tackles. No apology for that lie I guess? And let’s see, Rassie left for Munster June of 2016 and returned Dec 2017 during which period the job wasn’t critical enough to need filling. But it’s actually worse, he signed up for 3 years. So they only filled it as part of a package to get him back. We don’t need a Director of Rugby, we need a head coach.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Feb 2018, 07:43
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21 Feb 2018, 07:43#8

Wow!!! Why such a sourpuss, Mozart?

I guess you've made up your mind then, huh? Rassie is a failure. Noted.

You supported the useless Meyer till he was replaced and then for a spell you supported the even more useless Coetzee. Rassie hasn't even put his first team together and you've already written him off. 

Is it perhaps because Mike likes him? That's it, huh? 

Or is it perhaps that you're afraid he takes the so called useless, talentless youngsters that you're so fond of mentioning and makes a success story out of them? That would make you look like a right tottie, wouldn't it?

We need someone to stand up for the good of the Bok ... someone to drag us kicking and screaming back into top tier rugby and my understanding is that he's hard at work planning our revival.

I don't care what he is. If he fails he'll take just as much flack, if not more than the coaches under him. I'm going to give him his shot before I call the firing squad.

Pick up the lip, Mozart. It cannot get any worse than what we saw under your coaches Meyer & Coetzee


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Feb 2018, 08:59
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21 Feb 2018, 08:59#9

Mozart

As per normal best advice is to check your facts before you write garbage


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Feb 2018, 14:57
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21 Feb 2018, 14:57#10
Read my comment again CC, perhaps you will get the point.....but perhaps you wont. In all honesty who cares.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Feb 2018, 16:09
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21 Feb 2018, 16:09#11

No need ... your sullen tone is easily picked up. It goes well with your obvious distaste of Rassie.

I suppose we can expect the usual 180 if the Boks make a successful comeback under him..


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Feb 2018, 16:19
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21 Feb 2018, 16:19#12
Woosh!
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