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Who in the NZ and SA teams are retiring from test rugby.

Started by clevermike20 REPLIES745 VIEWS· 03 Nov 2019, 13:19
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2019, 13:19
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03 Nov 2019, 13:19#1

The fact is that players regard the WC as the key to a golden retirement future  for themselves and in the process some players do a lot to destroy their cherished reputation.   The list of SA and New Zealand players going to the 2015 WC as their swansong in test rugby is long.  There are indications that a substantial percentage of the to be retired SA players in 2015 seriously damaged their reputation.


However back to 2019 amd the question is which players are in fact leaving international rugby:-


South Africa


Francois Steyn

Duane Vermeulen

Francois Louw

B rits


New Zealand


Ryan Crotty

Kieran Read

Ben Smith

S-B Williams

O Franks


I am not sure whether there are not other players in the relevant category as well.   I think for instance that it is highly unlikely that Beast will play test rugby much longer - he is already 33 years of age, but as far as I am aware he has made no announcement about his future.


Most of the WC winners yesterday are in the range of 26 and 27 years of age or even younger and is likely to be playing still by 2023.          



       

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
03 Nov 2019, 13:36
#2
03 Nov 2019, 13:36#2

Retiting? Is that some type of Moob enhancement? 


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
03 Nov 2019, 13:38
#3
03 Nov 2019, 13:38#3
Francois Louw also announced that he has had his last Moob enhancement for the Boks.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2019, 16:33
#4
03 Nov 2019, 16:33#4

I corrected the typing error and added Louw to the retirees.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2019, 16:36
#5
03 Nov 2019, 16:36#5

Or maybe Goosen could be another moob and retire again.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2019, 16:41
#6
03 Nov 2019, 16:41#6

LMAO - Idiot contribution again.   Note this is about retirement  of players in the  2019 WC squads.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Nov 2019, 16:41
#7
03 Nov 2019, 16:41#7

Dup

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2019, 18:57
#8
03 Nov 2019, 18:57#8
Well I'm trying to help you Muck.....trying to divert from your false claims. The average age of our winning team was 28.5. The number of players below 27 in the whole team is 10.....by far not the 'most of the players'. Of those  3 are already27.
Stop lying and I will stop exposing your lies.
AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Nov 2019, 19:21
#9
03 Nov 2019, 19:21#9

What about the Brits, Beast, le Roux and Reinach..

Read an article that mentioned the above some time ago.  

Guys who should be retired from Test rugby might be another interesting topic for discussion.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Nov 2019, 23:29
#10
03 Nov 2019, 23:29#10
Reinach - I think not he is 29
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 Nov 2019, 23:44
#11
03 Nov 2019, 23:44#11

What's more pertinent is the sad number of top players heading overseas ........ superugby teams will be a wasteland.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Nov 2019, 01:45
#12
04 Nov 2019, 01:45#12

"Retiting" was merely an autocorrect of a crude term used in a prior conversation with his GP. Dr Auge, being of good heart, earnestly warned Dame Lügnerin against back-alley procedures but alas, mine forbearing words fell wearily upon the recalcitrant ears of Dame Klugscheißer. Now, he wear a three cupped bra composed of three sizes. As Elohim is my witness, I'll avenge this savagery! Honour shall not be rent so from the dignity of my profession! 

Back to the rugby, the ageless Tendai will likely retire. I hope he will find the motivation to soldier on unto the Lions tour. It will be a very sad day when he leaves the game.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:07
#13
04 Nov 2019, 04:07#13

If one look at the squad as a whole the situation is was as follows:   

*    30 years or older      =     6

*    29 years                    =     5

*    28 years                    =     6   -   3 may go through to  2023

*    27 years                    =     5   -   4 may go through to 2023

*    26 years or younger  =    11

I also took into account replacements.   The chances are that if Performances are maintained a core of about 18 players in the squad may be available for the next WC in 2023   

This is vastly different from 2015 when a total of 13 players were over 30 years of age.   

So over the next 4 years the Coach may have to look at about 13 to 15 replacements - not an impossibility at all to find replacements after the dark years between 2014 and 2017 that was really destructive insofar as team building was concerned.     .   .                          

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:07
#14
04 Nov 2019, 04:07#14

 Duplicate             

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:12
#15
04 Nov 2019, 04:12#15

I think Super rugby will fall apart... IMO

ever since the conferences came in the comp never the same... 

Foxsports meant to renegotiate their tv rights soon and no one in Aust cares for the game at all... additionally all the good aussie players are off to france and uk... leaving the s15 comp (aussies anyway with reserve graders / redundant kiwis at best).. 

oh well - until Aussies create a provincial comp worth watching it is only downhill for the code.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:18
#16
04 Nov 2019, 04:18#16

Redsman 

2020 is the last year of the conference system.    There may be a changed system from 2021 as well.  

They must get rid of the orc and start really building up rugby in Australia.   In SA I can foresee an increased number of younger Whites leaving SA and if they go to Australia it would help rugby there,   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:21
#17
04 Nov 2019, 04:21#17

Super rugby lost its lustre after 2011. That was the very last super rugby campaign of note. This obsession with converting Union to League must end now. Set a stake through its heart! Vanquish the folly of Dingoworld. Best yet, move north. 

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:31
#18
04 Nov 2019, 04:31#18

2011 was indeed a very memorable year (Qld victors under Ewen)... and possibly my happiest recent(relatively) rugby memory until the rigged 2011 RWC in kiwiland...

That was until Perth game v ABs this year...

Mike - interesting you say - West Oz full of Saffas (and the force gets axed) and Qld Reds front row stocks have a couple of burly Smit/s twins - who "fled" SA in high school...

There is article today calling for introduction of provincial comp based on Syd  / Bris club rugby teams with some heritage... I have been calling for this for years... The "NRC" is a complete and utter borefest of which no one watches other than family and friends... even they might forget about it too...

I'll talk to the PM & immigration minister perhaps we can expedite young white saffa rugby players... and stop the flow of welfare milking jihadis... lol..

sadly this possibly wont happen.... and current PM is a full Leaguey - treasurer is AFL......

And then we have Raelene to stand up and be counted.......................................................... 


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:42
#19
04 Nov 2019, 04:42#19

Which league side do you follow Red? I'm Parramatr a Eels. 

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:46
#20
04 Nov 2019, 04:46#20

broncos... since '88 the year brisbane entered the fray...

aside from that any team that has qlders or from qld.... RL is very tribal as you may well know...

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Nov 2019, 04:50
#21
04 Nov 2019, 04:50#21

I got that load and clear! Quite a few years before I was born! 

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