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Who is the better 12?

Started by clevermike2 REPLIES134 VIEWS· 28 Feb 2014, 21:46
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Feb 2014, 21:46
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28 Feb 2014, 21:46#1

We have now seen three players at 12 during Super - who are potentially in line for Springbok selection at 12 - in the place of or supplementing De Villiers in that position.  


The three players are -


*   Damian de Allende;

*   Witless Hog Steyn; and 

*   Jan Serfontein.


From what I have seen tonight  is a huge eye-opener.   De Allende is miles ahead in Cenbter play of Witless Hog and Jan Serfontein.  He has the strength and the speed - as well as the understanding of the game way ahead of anything of thee other two. 


Witless Hog and De Allende played against the same opposing centers a week apart and it is interesting what the comparison is between him and De Allende.   So lets look at the stats:-


Steyn 0/0 0 2/5/11 16 0 2 2 3 5/2 0/0 2 0/0


de Allende 0/0 0 0/4/10 65 1 4 0 0 10/2 0/0 0 0/0


Steyn


  *  Carried the balls 11 times for a meter gain of 16 meters;

  *  Made no clean break and beat 3 defenders

  *  Lost possession of the ball 3 times and gave away 2 penalties

  *  Attempted 7 tackles missing 2


De Allende


  *  Carried the balls 10 times for a meter gain of 65 meters;

  *  Made  one clean break beating 4 defenders

  *  Never lost possession of the ball and gave away no penalties.

  *  Attempted 12 tackles missing 2


The above info says it all - it is like comparing Cheese and Chalk and it is clear Witless is chalk in this case.


If the idea was that Steyn and De Allende should carry the ball forward and provide go forward ball to their teams - then it is clear that Steyn failed and De Ajjende succeeded in the two games in question.


My dear friend Saffex will definitely disagree - but I think he would do so by juggling words in a desperate effort to prove otherwise.      





      

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ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
01 Mar 2014, 02:31
#2
01 Mar 2014, 02:31#2

 None of the above.And neither is your beloved Stormer De Alende.

 

But we all know who will wear 12 for the boks...Dino de Villiers or Fransie...The question that really matters is who will be on their outside...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2014, 03:45
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01 Mar 2014, 03:45#3

Arizona


If Witless Hog is in the Springbok team on current form - I would never ever bet on them in any game they play.   He is just not a thinking player at all - and that makes him unacceptable  insofar as I am concerned.  


The problem remains that Steyn mechanically runs straight at the first defender - which is in rugby terms suicidal entailing no positives at all - while De Allende is a totally different case. 


I agree with you - the problem remains the no 13.  Engelbrecht was poor thus far this series and is also a player with very little rugby sense.   De VBillers is not an effective 13.   Saffex may be right that he should remain at 12 and that they should put De Allende at 13 - and I would say that may even apply to the Springbok team.   


The way De Allende ran through Conrad Smith yesterday  was not only funny - but shows  a lot about the youngster. 

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