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Who's the Bok Captain ... ??

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Nov 2014, 10:11
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10 Nov 2014, 10:11#1


Is it Jean ... or is it Matfield?


Is Meyer pushing Jean out?


We know he's wanted Victor as his captain right from the onset. 


We all saw how Matfield undermined Flip's captaincy during the Super Rugby this year.


Is he doing it again? Is this so that he can oust Jean and lead the Bokke in next year's world cup?


Is he doing this on his own or does he have Meyer's backing?


Something's up. 


It looks to me as if Meyer's blue eyed boy' s pushing his weight around and getting away with it.



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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
10 Nov 2014, 10:31
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10 Nov 2014, 10:31#2

 I saw Matfield making a lot of decisions on the weekend.


Maybe there is something up, I don't know, it will be a step in the right direction if Jean is pushed out, but that leaves us with Matfield, and that means he will go through to the RWC which I don't believe we can win anyway.


JUst a note on Matfield, he was bullied a bit this weekend.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Nov 2014, 10:49
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10 Nov 2014, 10:49#3
 
Yes ... he's not the most physical of players. Get's bullied a lot.

Purely there to secure us lineout ball.

Not much of a scrummager ... tries his best in the tight loose ... put's in his tackle and goes to ground every time ... never get's any go forward ... has a high work rate ... more like a bothersome fly than anything of note ...

I know exactly where your coming from.

I am a Lions fan ... have been all my life ... I can't tell you how many times I've prayed for a decent 5 lock to secure us ball ... or how many times I have had to watch my team lose because of a poor lineout.

It's a vital set piece to win because of all the attacking play coming from it.

That is the ONLY reason I'd keep Matfield in ... till a better all round 5 lock can be found.


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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
10 Nov 2014, 11:02
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10 Nov 2014, 11:02#4
Fine, but then you need to beef up the 7 and 3 as we need more physicality.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Nov 2014, 11:22
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10 Nov 2014, 11:22#5
 
I've been calling for a change at 3 and 7 for awhile now so that suits me fine.

I also favour Alberts at 7 and would love to see Redelinghuys given a shot at 3.

Finish the loose trio off with Kriel coming in at 6.





 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2014, 11:36
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10 Nov 2014, 11:36#6
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Matfield undermined Smit as cptain as well and ws sent back from NZ during the 2011 tour to New Zealand.    I think it was him and not Jean who gave the instrutions to kick to the corner in the case of three penalties.   
I know he is Meyer's blue-eyed person - but his captaincy will destory whatever chance we have in going into the WC next year.   The same will happen that happened in the 2011 WC - we will not survive the quarter-final.
You have a very apt descriptionof Matfield - he is a bothersome fly.   He is pushed aside out of mauls every time and is not effective in that phase of play. He cannot carry balls in traffic and if he tries  he poes straight down and has given away penalties in such cases.   He is easi;uy bu;;d by physiclly stronger opposing player.   His tackles are weak and he missed a high percentage of them.
In essense he is a bothersome fly and non-effective in rugby sense.   The man is an absolute waste of space on a rugby field and can only cause disaster for us next year in the WC.      
   
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2014, 12:16
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10 Nov 2014, 12:16#7
My thoughts exactly......it is clear that Matfield is undermining Jean's leadership  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2014, 15:32
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10 Nov 2014, 15:32#8
Gosh the Beast must be a hell of a scrummager.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2014, 15:37
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10 Nov 2014, 15:37#9
 And Mozart a complete rugby fool not to see the obvious.  
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