Who will win the final.

Nice discussion. Poor old Doos hasn't got a clue!

So these guys think we gave NZ bad corn flakes in 95, that it would be bad for rugby if the Boks won and the Boks have an even chance because defenses dominate knock out games.

You want us to come away with those conclusions?

How can you kick more than kicking so much your outside centre never gets the ball.

Early betting says Boks by less than 5. That makes the mighty ABs the underdogs, what could you guys possibly have to worry about?

I’m rewatching the Twickenham clash as I write this. Cards had a massive influence on this game. We passed more in the first 5 minutes than we did all game against England.

There's three areas of play that will decide the winner, defence, scrum and the breakdown, whichever team masters those areas will win the WC. In a tight contest the drop goal comes in handy here's hoping our blokes have had plenty of practice. It's awfully hard to pick a winner. unlike the Boks the ABs have had a softer run into the final so they've had a perfect prep and it's going to take a huge effort from the Boks if the ABs strategy is to run the Boks ragged but again for the Boks a lot is going to depend on Rassie's selections and rotations. Our selections must be based on fresh legs and speed. I'm not g etting my hopes up.

Too early for predictions

Ja, I'll make my call after the game

Prediction First half-All Black's... Our bomb squad puts points on in 2nd half. 

The all blacks have picked 80% of the same team this entire year. They had a tough quarter final and made the semis looked easy. This time the bargies were on the wrong side of the whistle and could never get into the game. 

The boks can play, England used a lot spoiling tactics. Slowed the game down. Conditions wasn't great for passing. Even the English hooker shanked a line out throw that it ballooned to our scrum half. 

The boks have a lot of things to fix. Line outs, scrums, break down, contact etc. 

Bring the bomb squad back, repeat Twickenham game. Convert opportunities this time. 

We are also missing Marx. 

I'll wait and see who the boks pick. We need Moodie in the team. Arendse and Willemse got exposed and so did Libbok. We need player that can play in the wet and we need our pack to fire.

Flab and Kittshoff are struggling along with Bongi. 

I would start with Ox, Trev and Fourie and peace the famouse 5 on the bench. 

I would even shift Kolis to 7, PSDT to Lock or bench . Actually drop him if he wasn't the token 

Again, untill I see team. No predictions 

With the All Blacks it so often depends on the first 20 minutes. If they go 15, 20 points up in the first 20, they're very hard to beat as we saw against Ireland. Playing catch up rugby all game long is tough, and if they're going to be clinical like England the Boks will struggle to score enough points. We need to control the game early to have a chance. 

Or that's what the patterns would suggest. It's knockout rugby, so who knows. Strange things happen.