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Whtie coaching Sharks: Disjointed, boring Super Rugby start likely

Started by Just_win13 REPLIES266 VIEWS· 15 Feb 2014, 10:19
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 10:19
#1
15 Feb 2014, 10:19#1

OPINION: It would be unwise for Sharks fans to hope new coach Jake White reveals a dramatic change in philosophy when Super Rugby begins in South Africa tomorrow morning.

With the Springboks' June test matches finishing a week after their Australasian counterparts, Sanzar has determined the South African conference matches must begin a week earlier.

The Cheetahs host the resurrected Lions in Bloemfontein's Free State Stadium and the Sharks meet the Bulls at Durban's Kings Park.

This disjointed start to the season does the competition a disservice.

Sanzar, which promotes its competition as one of the world's best, are unable to maximise the marketing and promotion side of things because of the lopsided start and many New Zealand and Australia fans will only take a half-hearted interest because it is difficult to get engaged in South African games played overnight.

Which brings us to White.

Last year, in just his second season as Brumbies head coach, he guided the Canberra side into the final.

Against all predictions the Brumbies beat the Bulls in the semifinal in Pretoria and then raced back to New Zealand to meet the Chiefs in the final in Hamilton.

Had Chiefs replacement fullback Robbie Robinson not scored a crucial try in the second half, the Brumbies may have won their first title since 2004.

That would have justified White's conservative game plan of kicking long, sending a fast line of defenders to suffocate the ball receiver to trap them inside their own half.

That would have been a tragedy.

It was efficient – as they proved when they nearly upset the Chiefs – but boring. And as wing Clyde Rathbone later admitted, it was just as frustrating for the players.

"I think it was almost poetic justice in the sense the Chiefs won this game, having played the most football in the last 15 minutes," Rathbone said after the final.

"There is almost something wrong with rugby if you can win a final not having played much football. I think we need to get to the place where to win a championship, you've got to play football."

Rathbone was careful not to blame his old mentor White, pointing the finger at the game's rules for not encouraging enough attacking rugby.

But maybe it was White's job to find another way around the problem. The Chiefs did.

White has selected 11 Springboks in his starting side to face the Bulls but it may be naive to expect anything but an intricate game of kick, chase, ruck, lineout and clap.

Hopefully White and Bulls coach Frans Ludeke, who has recalled ex-Bok lock Victor Matfield into his squad this year, prove such predictions wrong. Don't hold your breath.

The Lions, who were ditched last year when the Southern Kings were admitted, are up against it but they can at least be assured of remaining in the competition for two seasons.

South Africa has scrapped their promotion-relegation process, meaning the Kings can't regain their place until after 2015 when the Republic is expected to be awarded a sixth team.

Meanwhile, teams will no longer be awarded four points for each of their byes.

Sanzar has scrapped this senseless rule which proved more confusing than helpful.

- © Fairfax NZ News

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 10:25
#2
15 Feb 2014, 10:25#2
With Jake back in SA coaching (Sharks) don't expect a rabid school of sharks en-frenzied by chum & blood in the water (at least not in the backs), lol
Rather, we most likely will see good ol' SA style conservative rugby, its main value will be that when their fans watch the kiwi games next week they will be scratching their heads (& perhaps other areas of the anatomy) & saying "so that's how rugby should be played". To which kiwis will reply "Your welcome mate"!
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Feb 2014, 10:50
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15 Feb 2014, 10:50#3
jake white made some curcial tactical errors i  the finals last year, benching joe tomane to start rathbone??? o_O

coaching with ur heart instead of with ur head is never recommended.
as quality a super rugby level coach as white is, and as good a run as the brumbies had, white can still be rattled by the occasion.

sharks should do well, but im picking the stormers to come out on top and im picking the bulls to push the sharks all the way for that 2nd saffa team in the top 6.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 11:24
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15 Feb 2014, 11:24#4
Hi Sasuke San : your picking the "Stormers to come out on top...", you will have the full support from brother Beeno! 
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Feb 2014, 12:02
#5
15 Feb 2014, 12:02#5
Sounds  a lot like worried kiwi propaganda to me.
ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
15 Feb 2014, 12:27
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15 Feb 2014, 12:27#6
 What nonsense. Jake's philosophy is real rugby, not the fanciful tripe that Muir and Peter De Villiers believed in. They actually didn't play all that bad, just not stupid. Had individual players not made crucial mistakes they would have been rightly crowned Champions. And as per the Sharks, in case you all hadn't realized, the Sharks haven't been playing exciting or championship quality rugby since 2007. I hate that word conservative. It is mostly used by people who cannot cope with a certain style of rugby, so they instead make silly jibes to make it sound wrong or bad. One of those cop outs we see, but rather conservative than wreckless carnival rugby that only gets you a pat on the back because nobody genuinely feels threatened by you.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Feb 2014, 13:06
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15 Feb 2014, 13:06#7
"Sounds  a lot like worried kiwi propaganda to me."

NZ super rugby titles - 12
SA super rugby titles - 3

NZ wooden spoons - 2
SA wooden spoons - 13

yeah, kiwis are real worried.

fact crusaders or chiefs will win the 2015 spXV.

fact lions will make it wooden spoon number 14 for SA.

mark this thread and if im wrong, ill eat my humble pie with vanilla ice cream.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 13:30
#8
15 Feb 2014, 13:30#8
Sun-Tzu: yes many words & phrases can be disturbing, e.g. win/loss records & winning rugby; entertaining rugby... It is all a matter of perspective.  
Kiwis don't mind such words & there is some hope that the SA fans will be less averse to them in 2014.  The facts (as so ably provided by Sasuke San) may invoke despair but even in despair there must be some glimmer of hope, surely? 
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
15 Feb 2014, 13:42
#9
15 Feb 2014, 13:42#9
@dr win,

LMAO,
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 13:44
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15 Feb 2014, 13:44#10
 One man's "fanciful tripe" is another man's "golden goose"  (RWC, S15 cup, etc....).
Seriously though, IMO Jake White will do a great job & it will be interesting to see how he molds the team. And the word "conservative" is a word that prejudices the argument (usually seen a bad). No one would say that the tight five is not extremely important but without balance even the best tight five will have problems winning it all.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 13:48
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15 Feb 2014, 13:48#11
Sasuke-san; yes we responsible posters have to warm-up things before the kick-off of the first game in 2014 Super Rugby.  To get a good stew you have to stir the pot once & a while, I am sure Cloudy would agree
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Feb 2014, 15:29
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15 Feb 2014, 15:29#12
This nz journo needs to understand that at this time of year humidity in Durban is high. All this results in the ball being like a bar of soap and counts against running rugby.The wee chiefs have for two season been on the right end of the travel. This season their luck ends. Pity Jake didn' t win as he sure deserved it.Chiefs looked to be the side the nz are loading most although the crusties are probably second. Beeno has his finger firmly on the nz rugby pulse.Even ou windpomp realises it's all cheap kiwi bird brain propaganda.



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Feb 2014, 15:46
#13
15 Feb 2014, 15:46#13
What!!! Beeno & Ceradyne in agreement?  Is it mutual respect? will this new unity of thought between such disparate minds last?
We could be in for some tough banter this year 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
15 Feb 2014, 22:27
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15 Feb 2014, 22:27#14
4 tries for the Sharks for the bonus point win in the humidity. Some great backline tries in the conference with the strongest defense .
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