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Why Mitchell is a top ckass

Started by clevermike23 REPLIES1,356 VIEWS· 31 Mar 2018, 19:04
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2018, 19:04
#1
31 Mar 2018, 19:04#1

as a coach  and Fleck is BS.   There is a clear indication in the game today why the Stormers made a mess of the game.  The Bulls when got penalties never kicked at goal - they made corner kicks and scored three tries - the Stormers did the exact opposite and lost the game,

Stupid coaching and a stupid game plan lose matches and Mitchell has shown us again today that he is a class act when it comes to coaching,      

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2018, 19:17
#2
31 Mar 2018, 19:17#2
Oh balls. This was a game won off Stormers penalties and yellow cards. Their tries came from the traditional Bools mauls.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
31 Mar 2018, 20:21
#3
31 Mar 2018, 20:21#3
The Bulls backs looked solid, and the forwards are improving. I was not very impressed with the Bulls scrumhalf. Papier seems much faster to the base of the ruck. At one moment I thought he was Hougaard, but need to see more of him. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2018, 20:38
#4
31 Mar 2018, 20:38#4
The Bools are now competently prepared: Much better scrum Much, much better at the breakdown Much, much, much faster push defence. And Mitchell has preserved traditional Bools mauling....and excellent kicking Pollard. All that is missing from the old formula is the lineout dominance of a Matfield and the in the air dominance of Basson. What I am not seeing is the NZ game plan we were promissed. This is not a significant departure from the Stormers/Sharks and still miles behind last year's Lions in terms of ball handling.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2018, 21:19
#5
31 Mar 2018, 21:19#5

Absolute Balls - what I wrote above is a true reflection of what happened - what Mozart wrote is absolute BS,   Kicking at goal should only be done in extreme cases where the team has got a top class lead, not early in games when the opposition is already leading,  That is point number 1.

The second point is the myth about traditional Bulls rugby - bringing in the stand-in center as a reason for the forward dominance years ago.   To be quite frank  Pollard is not like his  predecessors as flyhalf  a kicking dummy - which was part of the so-called traditional Bulls rugby.

Mitchell brought in facets of play which the Bulls have never used and he also brought logic into a game plan which showed advanced thinking in rugby terms.    The usage of the backline was completely new to the Bulls who had a serious deficiency in the past.  

One thing is clear - Mitchell knows what he wants to achieve with the team -  Fleck is to tally clueless.    

        

   

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
31 Mar 2018, 21:33
#6
31 Mar 2018, 21:33#6

I hope Rassie's ego is not too big for him to consult Mitchell with respect to team selection and strategies.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Mar 2018, 21:43
#7
31 Mar 2018, 21:43#7

Come on guys, the Bulls have only one two games so far this season and are second from bottom in the SA conference. They are hardly world beaters, at best you can say they are showing signs of improvement. It's too early to sing the praises of Mitchell.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Mar 2018, 21:47
#8
31 Mar 2018, 21:47#8

JW

They beat the HURRICANES and was cheated by crooked refereeing from beating the Chiefs - so why the sudden question about the Bulls?   

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Mar 2018, 21:58
#9
31 Mar 2018, 21:58#9

Oh, that's right it was the refs fault... and Beeno lives on through others. His wee stormers may have been beaten & he may have taken a deep dive but his influence is still felt.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2018, 22:33
#10
31 Mar 2018, 22:33#10
Actually it was the refs fault that the Canes lost. Mitchell is doing nothing the three other SA coaches aren't doing....he does, however, have the new toy syndrome working for him. It's similar to getting a new driver and finding 10 extra metres, which slowly disappear over time. The Bools are playing with test level energy at the moment. It wont last as it becomes apparent that it's all just a pipe dream.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
01 Apr 2018, 06:41
#11
01 Apr 2018, 06:41#11

...notsoclevermike i think a non - sequitur is the name of the literary device you have adopted here...often used for comedic purposes it's a logical fallacy to suggest that a rare Bulls win over a weak Stormers side has anything to do with dopey Mitchell's "coaching skills"....more likely the Bulls are playing in front of their families and fans at home so have lifted their game accordingly...unless of course you are trying to say why Mitchell is an ass and gotten all creative with yor spelling again that is,  then that would be much closer to the truth although you need to work on your argument a little..

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Apr 2018, 08:08
#12
01 Apr 2018, 08:08#12

Mitchell is by a bulls roar the best coach in South Africa and sure he's a Kiwi discard but in the land of the blind the saying is the one eyed is king.

Fleck whose had more than his fair share of injuries over the years is another pretender....The Stormers will go no-where with him holding the reins.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2018, 08:50
#13
01 Apr 2018, 08:50#13

Mozart

There is no way you ever not talk BS when it comes to certain aspects of rugby and cricket..  Most of the time it is governed by prejudice - not facts.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2018, 08:50
#14
01 Apr 2018, 08:50#14

Mozart

There is no way you ever not talk BS when it comes to certain aspects of rugby and cricket..  Most of the time it is governed by prejudice - not facts.  

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Apr 2018, 10:35
#15
01 Apr 2018, 10:35#15

I must say that I'm a little dumb founded to hear that the correct approach to penalties is to go for the corner every time ... and that taking the points on offer with a shot at posts isn't the way to go.

What crock of shit.

You play according to your strengths. If you have a good maul then by all means try to go for the 5 pointer. It is however not a guarantee that you'll cross the line though ... as we've seen countless times before. You could quite easily come away with nothing ... and in hind sight, that discarded 3 pointer could cost you the match.

In certain circles, the All Blacks are regarded as the best team in the world. How many times have we not seen them take their lowly three points ... and another ... and another ... only to find themselves right back in the match ... which most certainly lifts them for a full out onslaught.

I have seen the Bulls chuck away many a match through this foolish approach.

You play to your strengths ... and try to exploit the opponents weaknesses.


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moolaaPro2,380 posts
01 Apr 2018, 10:58
#16
01 Apr 2018, 10:58#16
“Certain circles” = World rankings for the last umpteen years...
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Apr 2018, 11:24
#17
01 Apr 2018, 11:24#17

Mitchell is an astute coach. The Bulle were renowned for their rollng maul and Mitchell has not scorned this but brought it back. 

However no sane person will not admit the ref won the game for the bulle. A n effort of nz proportions!!!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2018, 11:59
#18
01 Apr 2018, 11:59#18

It is very rarely that NZ teams go for goal kicks early - especially if they are behind in the scoring -

G oal kicks can be a filler up later in the games.   Earlier this year the Stormers in Sydney made the same mistake and lost the match - while the Sharks in Durban ended up drawing th match because of the same lunacy.     

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
01 Apr 2018, 12:13
#19
01 Apr 2018, 12:13#19
The Bulls are playing good rugby. I would rather see them lose games if it means they are developing their game plan and skills. If the Bulls can recruit a few more players in key positions they are going to get better next season. 

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
01 Apr 2018, 14:07
#20
01 Apr 2018, 14:07#20
I don't like rolling mauls, neither did Hansen and it has many objective rugby critics and I'm surprised Mitchell brought it back to be used...perhaps it's the only way traditional Bulls can win...ugly as it is, it is effective but it has many faults...the main one is that the opposing side has only one option, if any...the players are in front of the ball and are technically off side.

To put the cat amongst the pigeons and there are a few here:

Rolling mauls are a blight on rugby union
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Apr 2018, 14:45
#21
01 Apr 2018, 14:45#21
Nothing that the Bools are doing is even close to the 2017 Lions in terms of sophisticated ball handling.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2018, 17:00
#22
01 Apr 2018, 17:00#22

Dream on - Mozart.  You have missed out on most of the Bulls matches and that shows in your postings,   

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2018, 13:30
#23
02 Apr 2018, 13:30#23

Of course Moolaa ... anything is possible with a little help from your friends.

They gave you the 2011 WC trophy before the open whistle to the tournament even sounded.

Everyone knows that ... except you Kiwis ... you guys still think you won that tournament legitimately.

LOL!!!!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Apr 2018, 13:57
#24
02 Apr 2018, 13:57#24

Mozart

It was a hell of a lot better than it was in the past seven years.  

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