BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2017, 11:56#1
We will be outweighed in both backs and forwards. Imaginge having Bongi, Dreyer, Mostert, Kolisi, Kriel and Cassiem on the park at the same time. The backs have pace but are outgunned in terms of strength. Combrinck and Janse Van Rensbuirg are needed. FAF really should be starting but is not even in the squad!
A moment of reckoning is at hand? Or are we on the right track. Fortunately the match at Salta should assist Coetzee in seeing the error of his ways.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2017, 12:21#2
Hi Cloudy, yes go Boks. Let's hope they are on the right path & can give the Wobblies a good game. Not too much luck against the ABs though I have the feeling the ABs are not where they want to be in terms of performance and that we are more vulnerable than in past years. We will get better but we are certainly not invincible.
26 Aug 2017, 12:33#3
The All Blacks of old are no more.
Hansen has lost the plot ... and with his poor selections and poor coaching, the doors have been opened ...
I do not think that this win will be celebrated by the Kiwis. There will be some worried fans out there.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Aug 2017, 12:41#4
Everything is relative cc. What team is good in your opinion? So far you think everyone is crap.
26 Aug 2017, 12:53#5
Not at all ... no need to pout, JW.
They won in the end. Not by the 50 pts you guys were expecting ... but a win in the end is all that's needed.
I don't think they'll have issues with the rest of the sides in the competition. The Goats have selected poorly again and let's face it, the Pumas are about as bad as I've ever seen ... so hearty congrats on another trophy in the cabinet.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
26 Aug 2017, 12:58#6
Stirred not shaken the AB's manage to scrape a win.....boy that was close. Add the three kicks which hit the post and the AB's might have been shaken not stirred.
Still, a win is a win and great game of rugby enjoyed by all, no-one wants to see one sided events.
As for our own, although heading in the right direction I doubt whether they are anywhere near the quality of play we witnessed today.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2017, 12:59#7
Back to the Springboks - aka goats, Last week I thought the Wallabies would have difficulties against the goats. After their display today I think that the goats have nio chace against either the Aussies or the AB's.
The problem is going to be the sam e the Springboks had against the AB's and Aussies last year, namely defense wide out. And I still think the loosie combination is a problem.
26 Aug 2017, 13:06#8
Yes ... in the end it was 5 trys a piece. Who would have thought that the mighty All Blacks would allow 5 past them. Not me.
The missed conversions cost the Wallabies in the end ... and that's with their poor scrum set piece.
Get that sorted out and we could see a whole different Wallaby side.
I certainly hope they've turned the corner.
26 Aug 2017, 14:08#9
True ... shoulda, coulda, woulda ... but didn't in the end.
The one with the most points wins the match.
Still a massive improvement by the Wallabies.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Aug 2017, 18:53#10
Clouds...they will be content, not happy. They could have won this. They will be proud of the effort, but bitterly disappointed.
PAPapamoa
Club Pro683 posts
27 Aug 2017, 03:14#11
The Wallabies had their best chance at a win... But wasn't to be. The ABs aren't a team that will gift wrap that many opportunities to the opposition. so that was their chance and they still lost, Brisbane the ABs wont want to be so complacent. The Boks vs ABs should be good, the ABs are having a few issues at the moment so if the Boks want a chance to win a game this is as good as it gets.
McKenzie takes over from B Smith... He's no Ben Smith, runs around like a headless chicken more than anything... But can go straight eventually. No franks didn't help around the park, but didn't notice his absence in the set piece.... But we missed him in defence. The ABs midfield looks lost without Crotty and SBW looks concussed, ALB isn't at his best form yet either. The ABs haven't sorted out the midfield depth issue... But it was one of those games where everything goes against you, you get that now and then.. But Hansen will have to earn his money this year, the players aren't coming against teams that will just roll over anymore. The ABs need to get their composure and accuracy happening.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Aug 2017, 03:56#12
NZ would be better shifting Smith back to fullback....McKenzie will occasionally produce something special, but simply isn't solid enough.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Aug 2017, 08:00#13
Papamoa
What about Milner-Skudder at FB or moving Smith back to FB and using M-S on the wing?
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
27 Aug 2017, 09:57#14
Ben Smith is taking a sabbatical from now on,.... so cannot count on him
Mckenzie is not up to test level yet,... as you all say he can produce magic but is not solid enough,.... too many errors,... loose passes, intercepted passes, lost balls in contact,... not great in high balls though he tries hard,... when pressured by the defense tends to run laterally or even backwards which is bad itself but besides leaves his team-mates out of place and wondering what he's going to do,.... he's many times out of position defensively
NMS is far from his best form,... and he's considered more as a wing by the coaching staff and rightly so,.... he's not good with the high balls (in the WC SF against the boks he was stolen 3 times by Habana, e.g.) and is also caught out of position many times defensively
I would no doubt play Dagg at FB,.... with Naholo and Ioane (this young is going to do great things if he continues playing like this) on the wings
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
27 Aug 2017, 11:02#15
about the AB midfield,... Crotty got concussed and will be monitored the next days,... if he cannot play the AB have a huge problem,... there are still 2 weeks for the next game against the argies so let's finger-cross and hope it's time enough for his recovery
SBW was a disaster yesterday,... in every aspect of the game,... he's completely out of depth and should be dropped IMO,... he's been awful this year for the AB
seems that Hansen wants to play with a Nonu-like 12 that hits hard the opposite defenses (while keeps some good distribution and defensive skills),... but nor SBW nor Laumape are nowhere near him,.... Laumape is still very unidimensional, a bit like Nonu when beginning
the midfield is the defensive spine of a team,... it's IMO fundamental to have excellent defenders there,... ALB is probably not at his best but IMO the best option at this moment
I would give Goodhue minutes from the bench,.... he's a tackling machine (against the chiefs in the SF he made 16 tackles in just 60 minutes, missing not a single one ), reads the game perfectly well both in attack and defense and very rarely makes mistakes or takes the wrong option,... besides, he's used to play alongside Crotty (and viceversa),... one of the reasons of the success of the Nonu-Smith combo, not the only one for sure, was that they were used to play alongside each other at club level
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Aug 2017, 13:04#16
Ioane and the 2 Barrets will be AB greats.
27 Aug 2017, 21:06#17
...You never know which Wabbly team is going to show up...the drunkard dont-give-a-fk one or a more focused competitive one...they are making incremental improvements which is good for rugby in OZ that's said to be in it's death throes...dumping Quade Cooper was the best thing they ever did...Kerevi got dropped and they improved further...if Cheika can get the formula right then there is definitely hope for them...
..Can see the Aussies bringing in Naisarani from the Force to give their forward pack a bit more starch when he qualifies...would'nt be suprised if Semi Radarada made the team next year as well - four tries for Paramatta this weekend and he's a player to watch out for playing alongside Ma'a Nonu for Toulon later this year...
All building towards the 2019 RWC like NZ the Aussies are building depth...so you want players like DMac for example in between WC years to get a few caps under their belt and gain some experience ,,not to mention make the rookie mistakes now and learn from them now rather than in the WC year...
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Aug 2017, 22:34#18
I agree Wobblies are building as are the ABs. Of course if we were winning all games easily we would have to put up with the "peaked too soon" nonsense. Ah, it's tough being a fan of the best rugby team in the world.
Maybe wee cc (aka turncoat) will decide to join us AB supporters - for a few days at least - not that we want him either.
28 Aug 2017, 11:39#19
Hahahahahaaaa!!!
No thanks. I cheered for you guys once with an All Blacks jumper and all. That was more to show my displeasure of our first quota head coach and his stupidity.
Now I support all the Boks opponents ... including you for the full 80. There after it's back to giving you as much lip as I can.