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Will the Hurricanes give Nonu a contact for Super 15 nerxt year?

Started by clevermike3 REPLIES373 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2013, 14:37
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2013, 14:37
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31 Jul 2013, 14:37#1
The following report is relevant:- "Hurricanes centre Conrad Smith has confirmed the New Zealand Rugby Union approached the Wellington-based franchise about signing Ma'a Nonu. Smith admitted that his All Blacks midfield partner will have to make some adjustments before he will be welcomed back to the franchise, who he (Nonu) represented in 110 matches before departing in acrimonious circumstances in 2011. Hurricanes coach Mark Hammett ejected Nonu from his team he viewed the world class midfielder as a disruptive influence. Nonu moved to the Blues, where he had an unsuccessful stint in 2012, and joined the Highlanders this year where he also battled in an unsuccessful team. Hurricanes skipper Smith confirmed he discussed Nonu's return with Hammett and that the NZRU made attempts to improve the relationship between the inside centre and his former coach. "Mark Hammett said the NZRU had approached them [Hurricanes]," Smith told Fairfax Media. "He wanted to get my opinion. I was literally a two minute conversation," Smith said as the All Blacks assembled for a two-day camp in Auckland. "I anticipate I will be asked about it in the next few weeks. It's being dealt with at a higher level and I can honestly say I don't know what stage it's at. "In terms of playing ability I'd love to have him there, but I appreciate there is a bigger picture and a lot of other things to go through." When asked if he thought Nonu could return to the Hurricanes environment after falling out with Hammett, after a deep breath and a lengthy pause Smith hinted he was in favour of Nonu's return. "I don't know," he added. That's obviously why it's taken as long as it has and there's a bit to go through. "I don't know where it's going to end up. There'd have to be a bit of shifting on his account. I'm always an optimist. I think that can be done. "It's pretty unique and I don't think it will happen a lot. I'm optimistic it will come to a conclusion there's just a few things that have to be worked through." All Blacks boss Steve Hansen revealed he would not tread on Hammett's toes and would, therefore, steer clear of the situation. Hansen spoke with Nonu on Tuesday and sensed he was relaxed, despite being without a Super Rugby team for 2014. "He's in great shape mentally," Hansen said. "I don't see it in his face and in his conversation. He's a strong enough man to back himself. "He's focusing on being here and doing it well. At this point he knows he can't control things. But he knows when he is here he has to play well. "That's the best advertisement he can have for himself. We reinforcement that when we had a chat last night." Hansen suggested the key to getting the best out of Nonu was to reinforce the fact no individual was bigger than the team. "I don't know what they don't do," he offered on why Nonu hadn't produced the same form in Super Rugby. "He's got clear expectations here like everybody else. If you don't there's a consequence. Each individual parcel makes up the whole of the All Blacks. "We've got a culture, a philosophy that the team comes first. We drive that everyday. We've never had a problem." I can understand Hammett's reluctance to have Nonu in his Super 15 squad. His performances for the Blues last year and the Highlanders were disastrously poor and he was a very poor contributor to the said teams. One do not really know what impact disruptive conduct of Nonu would have on the team and even from the article it is clear that there must have been serious problems in the relevant regard. However, Hansen obviously wants Nonu contracted by one of the New Zealand franchises - because he was surprisingly good in the tests against the French. I think in the end Hammett will take Nony back in the squad - but that could also backfire on the Hurricanes.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Jul 2013, 15:04
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31 Jul 2013, 15:04#2

IMO Nonu is an enigma. He plays well in the ABs but seems to fail (or at least be a mixed blessing) at the Super Rugby level.

He needs an attitude adjustmen IMO. I think Hansen has it right when he says that Nonu needs to realise that no player is bigger than the team. He also has to realise that he has to find a team or else he wont be around for the All Blacks. Weepu has changed and is playiing well for the Blues (he also has had his problems) so maybe Nonu needs to see that example.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
31 Jul 2013, 15:16
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31 Jul 2013, 15:16#3

 @mikey,

this part here, was that from u or part of the report???
"However, Hansen obviously wants Nonu contracted by one of the New Zealand franchises - because he was surprisingly good in the tests against the French."
cos anybody who knows anything about nonu, knows that its never a surprise to see him playing well when wearing the All Blacks jersey, i mentioned it many times before the june tests cos he has "ALWAYS" been the posterchild of current form is irrelveant for national selections.

i love nonu, and i despise hammet, would like him to fudge off back to christchurch after his poor handaling of nonu and hore and coaching my canes into a joke including coming up to the worst finals drought in hurricanes history, but its clear that hammet dosent want him, so nonu should just sit his ass with highlanders where he is wanted by jospeh.

things that saffas might not be aware of here is that when hansen said he wouldnt step on hammets toes, that shows just how much power the NZRU have over the 5 franchises.
if the hansen wants nonu to play for the hurricanes, it will be done and theres nothing hammet can do about it.
back when david nucirofa was coach of the wallabies, he tried to ommit rua tipoki from the blues squad and the NZRU told him no, he had to have him in his squad, there was All Black potentiasl in tipoki and while the 5 NZ franchises have the same goal as every other super rugby team, they are all there to help nZ rugby as a whole, and the All Blacks are on top of that food chain.
in short, all NZ rugby roads lead to the All Blacks.

nonus skill set is the exact type of skill set that the hurricanes need in their 12, ray lee lo was starting to show some real good form thier in the canes last few outings, but all in all nonus skill set and his partnership with snake which is the most experienced and successful midfiled combo in international history, would really give their outside backs some much structure to unleash their stuff more consistently.

there could be some serious friction inside the hurricanes camp, but hopefully they can sort their shit out, IMO this would have been a lot better had hammet gone down the correct path and gotten rid of nonu privately instead of the humiliating airing of the hurricanes dirty laundry which dumb ass hammet did.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
31 Jul 2013, 22:24
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31 Jul 2013, 22:24#4

 

Hansen frustrated by Nonu limbo

All Black coach Steve Hansen has admitted that Ma’a Nonu’s possible isolation from New Zealand’s Super Rugby franchises is disappointing.

 

Despite holding a contract with the New Zealand Rugby Union and being a likely starter in the upcoming Rugby Championship internationals, Nonu’s future at Super Rugby level is unclear.

 

The centre appears set to leave the Highlanders after just one season and the Blues, Chiefs and Crusaders have all ruled out signing the 31-year-old.

 

That leaves the Hurricanes, who Nonu parted ways with two years ago, as his only remaining option. While ‘Canes coach Mark Hammett said that Nonu was a topic that the franchise would be discussing, the Wellington outfit don’t appear overly eager to re-sign the player.

 

Hansen concedes that the situation is far from ideal and is one that displeases him.

 

'It's disappointing that probably the best second five-eighth in world rugby at the moment can't get a home in a New Zealand franchise,' Hansen is quoted as saying by Fairfax NZ News. 'I don't have much more to say than that really.'

 

Nonu suffered an ankle injury during a club match on Saturday, but it’s not one that Hansen expects will sideline the midfielder for too long.

 

'He's only had a minor tweak to the ankle. I'm sure he'll be fine by the time we get ready to rumble, but I'd say he'd probably not be playing [club rugby] this weekend,” he explained.

this is the article on the news section on sarugby.com and the comment from steve hansen caught my eye,,,
"It's disappointing that probably the best second five-eighth in world rugby at the moment can't get a home in a New Zealand franchise,'
its obvious that he means best 12 at test level, but it baffels me that coaches dont want to take a chance on nonu.
the right coach could strike gold with nonu, hes like a potential spXV game winner ready to start laying nonu sized golden eggs, i dont know why u wouldnt want gamble on him.

still, if hammet dosent want him, then nonu should have the snese to at least stay with the one team that does want him, pay back the highlanders faith and stick it to the others by playing his ass of and leading the landers to a finals berth, that would be the best cold dish called revenge.

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