Willemse at 10 is a worry
I would have started Kwagga
What people don't understand is that if Marx Starts Kwagga and Duane will be on the bench and vice versa. Siya and PSDT/Mostert are not gonna get turnovers anywhere near as much as those three.
Deon is an interesting selection. Could it be that Marx goes full 80 and we end the game with four fetchers, Marx, Fourie, Smith and Vermeulen??
Ja, it's called all hands on deck
We should rather refer to the likes of Marx and Vermeulen as "lean overs"... as they do not "fetch" the ball at all.
We have room for a genuine fetcher but that spot is taken.
I too would have started with Kwagga at 6. Apart from playing the much needed fetcher role, he at least knows which direction to run in.
Mostert is not a flank. That is a stupid selection.
Deon Fourie is 35 years old. Why is he in the mix ... and why is he cover for Marx? I thought Dweeb was the man for the future.
Vermeulen is 36 years old. Slow, ineffective, useless.
Fat Frans Steyn is 35 years old. Overweight, out of shape, has man boobs and a belly bigger than Redneck's.
Reinach is 32 years old. Cant believe he's still being considered for duty.
Is this a rugby team or an old age home?
You cannot tell me we are building for next years WC with these elderly out of form hasbeens?
Great quota team. Again.
With the controversial call on the hit, the refereeing will be a point of focus. It will not be a surprise if an even more biased for SA rugby reffing is produced as a way of preventing tantrums from being thrown.
A win would soothe and avoid escalation.
Could it be that Marx goes full 80 and we end the game with four fetchers, Marx, Fourie, Smith and Vermeulen??
What a nightmarish thought. SA rugby taking the scoreboard control through their usual spoiling strategies and ruining the rest of the game as the biased ref keeps seeing on feet contests when they obviously are not.
Memorable match to come. Game of the year.
Willemse is not great at 10. His hand to foot is slow
Punting is all that matters. If that guy is the designated punter and he is reliable enough, then he fits his part.
If he is, then doing nothing else is harmless as he is expected to do nothing more anyway.
Faff has been dropped from the match-day squad altogether. He is playing terrible, so that is no surprise.
Jessie Kriel is shit. I would rather try Gelant at 13
Faff has been dropped from the match-day squad altogether. He is playing terrible, so that is no surprise.
Jessie Kriel is shit. I would rather try Gelant at 13
2 centres that cant pass more than 5 metres.
Both are one-dimensional cart horses that seek contact, even when they have overlaps.
I don't remember ever seeing Jessie Kriel pass, and if he can even make a basic pass - I suspect like Delande he cant pass right, only left.
At least Gelant has a good pass. John Mitchell was considering him as a 13 because he has a good pass and playmaking ability.
I have watched Delande for ages, long before he was a Bok.
He has strengths and weaknesses.
He can't pass, it is that simple. I have never once seen him make a long pass.
His pathetic kick pass when there are overlaps confirms this.
He can make short pop passes to his left, but you never see him pass right.
Those that played rugby in school will remember that most people pass better left than right, but we expect a professional rugby player to be able to do this.
Even Jean Devilliers says Delande is not a conventional inside centre. He is big and strong, but more like a forward than a backline player.
I am so tired of watching Delande carry the ball up, and get gang tackled because everyone is waiting for him to do it.
As for Kriel, he is just shit. He will die with the ball every time. His defence is solid, but his attacking game is not test standard.
How can you choose 2 centres that cant pass?
What??? ... SharkShit has a brain?
It might be a very small brain ... but there is definite grey matter working there.
How does it feel thinking for yourself, hey SharkShit?
Good huh!!?
Congratulations!!!
I agree ... Kriel is a very poor choice at 13 and putting him outside the selfish De Lindy is probably the wort thing you could do. Utter madness.
The two worst possible choices for our midfield has now been selected.
Neither can pass ... neither know how to defend ... neither can create ... and in all honesty the mere fact that both have single digit IQ's is rather worrying.
It would have been better to bring Elton "Panic Stricken" Jantjies in at 10 with Willemse to 12 and the useless Kriel at 13.
He'll at least see a bit of ball. What he does with it is another story.
Also ... blaming De Lindies inability to play properly on a so called game plan is nonsense.
He knows nothing else.
So here are a few issues:
Willie can create but nobody can finish nowAm is gone.
Moody should surely have had at least a few bench runs….and he gets Koroibete.
Jessie Kriel is not a good defender…witness Japan, witness the ABs. He is a frenetic player with reasonable pace and zero guile…we are way worse off without AM
Dud Allende has got even worse now that somebody has tried to add tactical kicking to his arsenal
Mapimpi is a finisher who can’t finish.
What’s Willemse’s approach as a test flyhalf? Can he make the kicks. A running flyhalf with a crashball non passing center seems contradictory, why not give Esterhozen a shot with Willemse
Hendrikse is going to get charged for a try soon…he is not aware enough
The front row is a gift but why waste it on this team. Five scrumming penalties might help.
Etzebeth and Lomp are better than any other available combo in test rugby…but the Aussie locks are decent and did a good job of negating them
Kolisi can play for about 10 minutes then he gets brain fog, will it be the right 10 minutes.
Mostert is a huge step up on Dud Toit, much more where it counts.
Wiese will put in a lot of work, but he will get penalized ….how much will it cost us.
We almost seem to throwing games these days. Perhaps this team will be up to play….a sort of AB second test reversal. But on paper we look much less likely to win.
Much better team, pity Am is injured. Happy with the tight five. Loose forward combo is kak and as well as the centers.
Our 9 / 10 axis is questionable. Centers are completely rubbish.
Back 3 is okay but not brilliant.
All and all, way better team than last week.
What's the bet Blocks win and we hear how great this group of players are. Block fans are so fucking fickle.
Red Nose if the Boks win will you get your mom to do a handstand as we are tired of having to observe her "Hanging Udders".
Thanks.
I for one think that this team is going to struggle in the test.
Playing with old men and players out of position is a sure sign of panic and the management team not having a solution or fall back plan.
The manager and his amature assistants simply do not have the experience or understanding for this level of rugby.
They are really square pegs in round holes or as Denny would say " Old hands on deck " experts..
"Etzebeth and Lomp are better than any other available combo in test rugby…but the Aussie locks are decent and did a good job of negating them"
Moz. Aussie hardly won any lineouts last week...or did I miss something?
The Springboks won the world cup due to the bomb squad.
South Africa has more test-level forwards than any country, so it allowed us to make like-for-like replacements with fresh players (Notice the 6/2 split).
We just have more forward depth than any country, and this enables us to field fresh players for 80 minutes.
When our backs play well, often is opportunism (e.g. Kolbe dancing through a brick wall of defence). Individual brilliance rather than rehearsed team moves.
Delande has positive attributes but show me video evidence of him making long passes.
Don't tell me the game plan is for Delande to kick, when the Boks have 3 on 1 situation, overlaps etc.
No coach is going to tell a player to go to the ground if they have space on the outside with an overlap.
Many South African coaches will play no rugby in their own half (unless) they have an overlap.
The game plan is not for Delande to kill overlaps by taking contact and going to the ground.
I "hope" the game plan is not for Delande to do kick passes, as every attempt he has done of this is crap.
If it is the game plan, why does Willemse throw long passes?
The one he did for Mapimpi was world-class. We need a centre that can pass and create, not just someone who can carry into traffic.
At the very least switch the 12 and 13 on attack and defence every so often to keep the opposition guessing.
On his day Delande is very good, but we need some more consistency and playmaking ability in the mid-field. Especially given Pollard has not been an attacking force for a long time.
@ Saffex.
The problem with DDA is that he no longer takes contact and gains ground, partly because our passes are so deep behind the gain line and he's taking it standing still and then runs into a gang tackle.
His passing is bad, look at the pass he gave on Saturday behind the player outside him. Also his decision making is lazy as well as bad. First thing from a turnover He kicks it away or a 3 v 1 and he puts in a kick that's executed poorly.
That's not "game plan", that's a dullard who believes he's safe in his position.
Between him and Kriel this weekend I expect our midfield defence to be turnstiles on rollerskates. Could be worse, Pollard could be at 10.
Even for Munster in the URC he was a shadow of himself. Hume and McC loskey made a fool of him when they played Ulster.
it’s why the very astute Greenwood said you stop DA you stop the Boks
No one needs to stop DA as he never gets started.
They don't call him Deadend De Allende for nothing.
I like Willemse at 10, I see skill and a willingness to run the ball, kinda think he has a brain as well and in a bit of space he could be lethal. For that he needs the tight five to step up, forget the loose trio, it's a lucky packet with nothing in it....... same again for the back line. Gotta feel for 19yr old Moodie though, he's about to cop the initiation from Hell, a mix match of a team lacking in confidence on away turf....who exactly does he turn to for a bit of confidence and inspiration? Let's pray for a miracle.
Anyone keen on a couple of freebie tickets....comes with a dose of embarrassment.....and there's plenty of that as well.
No need to thank me
Bokke by 10.
I'm excited to see Moodie debut, one for the future for sure. Zas 11 Arendse 14 , Moodie 15. Jaden and Jordan @ 9&10 respectively. Willemse @12 and I'm sure Saffex can find a young 13 we haven't heard of yet. (Not Simelane). Brewing nicely for post 2023.
https://youtu.be/OPlkbe_cIEs
Saffex, I could have sworn you picked a team for the 2nd test in the last day or so and had dropped DDA but now you are extolling his non-existent virtues once more?
And Kriel has a step?? Don't make me laugh! My unabiding memory of Kriel was when I was at Twickers for the 2015 RWC semi vs the ABs. Almost in the first couple of minutes of the game Kriel was put through a large gap and had acres of space to attack the ABs with. What did he do? Raced up, stuttered and ran straight into a tackler (can't remember who) and the promising move died right there!
If the Boks had scored then, there could have been a completely different result.
So, I can't wait for this magical sidestep on Saturday..........
Shame about the injuries - very surprising to see Frans still in the mix - is it just me or doesnt his conditioning look so good atm...?
I think Boks will go close to winning this one - Wobs seem to play one good one bad - time for the latter...
On side note bumped into Kurtley & Bernard at a semi final at local footy last weekend - I'd be guessing similar age to Frans... but I can tell you both these boys looking a lot fitter...
All the best and hopefully we have a good game not marred by idiot refs from Bryce land...
Fair call.....GL.


