He was very good today and his one line breaks produced a try by Lleyds,
I would say he will by Monday be back in the Springbok squad - now who will be goners - Steyn most likely or Jantjies not impossible. Lets hope Erasmus - normally a logical and very good selector - does the right thing in the case of Willemse!!!!!
It sounds like he found a level he is more comfortable with. Test rugby is certainly not Currie Cup rugby. Not by a long shot.
Again comments from fools who did not watch the match. I will tell you on Monday which of the poor players will mi ss the boat as a result of Willemse/
Not damn stupid - I am worried about having a dud like Steyn in the squad and a potential problem in the back-up flyhalf position. That was why I wanted to see how Willemse was do ing and he did very well.
As you stated we will see on Monday what the squad will look like.
There will be players that may be weaker than others in the squad - but inevitable the best performers are all in the group already. So no repeat of the 2015 squad selection debacle in evidence.
“ Posted by: clevermike (37313 posts)
Aug 25, 2019, 09:21Not damn stupid - I am worried about having a dud like Steyn in the squad and a potential problem in the back-up flyhalf position. That was why I wanted to see how Willemse was doping and he did very well. “
There are two ways of taking the piss at this post.
OPTION 1. Check the typo and have a laugh
“Posted by: clevermike (37313 posts)
Aug 25, 2019, 09:21Not damn stupid - I am worried about having a dud like Steyn in the squad and a potential problem in the back-up flyhalf position. That was why I wanted to see how Willemse was doping and he did very well. “
OPTION 2. By fixing it for Ou Maaikie while still having a laugh about the typo as well.
“Posted by: clevermike (37313 posts)
Aug 25, 2019, 09:21Not damn stupid - I am worried about having a dud like Steyn in the squad and a potential problem in the back-up flyhalf position to find a way to piss on Rassie for including Steyn while still maintaining that Rassie is a genius coach. That was why I wanted to see how Willemse was doping and he did very well. “
Ceradunce is indeed an Idiot.
Let me explain something to you. I never pissed on any coach I just look a what they have achieved and consider them based on the performance of the teams they coached,
In looking at that I look also at team selection. Meyer in fact selected players on the basis of reputation and he said so himself. It would have helped of Meyer look at performance in selecting the 2015 WC squad, He picked players without any game time for up to 18 months before the WC and for the rest picked at least 8 unplayable players, The result was that at least 8 of the 31 squad members were unplayable in matches,
If Meyer had a game plan it must have been SARU secret - it was a total mess anyway and there was nothing bar repetitive BS in evidence, In essence it resulted in a poor performance record - especially in his last year as SA coach,
In the case of Erasmus he engendered a new team spirit in the team and helped the players in building up a new team spirit. In essence he inherited a total mess from Meyer and Coetzee and had to rebuild the team. He also had to look at franchise players who may become susses ful so he selected experimental teams for less-important tests in 2018.
In looking at selections Erasmus's norm always was performance, Even then there are a few players where I differ from him, but realize that in the main he would select genuine performers and not reputation duds
A typing error suddenly is the only thing this first idiot can harp on. Happy idiots Day to you.
The player whose position is at risk is Steyn and I said it clearly, He was never satisfactory when he came from the bench in the tests this year and should not be in the squad. I do not think he will be of any value in the WC anyway and Erasmus will make a huge mistake selecting him,
Knowing his methodology in teams election Erasmus would have called Willemse up to the squad already - but he wanted to see him get some game time. Unlike Meyer he would not select a player who has not played any games for up to 18 months and then sits with passengers at the WC who were basically unplayable.
So Willemse played from the bench first and then yesterday played the full match at flyhalf and did very well. That indicates that Erasmus will likely consider him as a back-up flyhalf - since Jantjies under pressure is not a nice sight to see, H e may pick Jantjies as well anyway,
In the case of Steyn - what is he? His Club has virtually never used him as center or flyhalf the past year and when used as center from the bench by Erasmus he was poor. His Club used him at full back when he did play - but his pace is too slow for that position.
Willemse is a much better proposition all round and that is why I think he would be in the squad and Steyn out,
That would leave Erasmus with one other problem. He could pick either Kwagga or Elstadt as a loosie - meaning that one of them may be out. My guess is that Kwagga will be out of contention. However, Meyer may decide to retain both and that could place Mostert's position in jeopardy,
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Mike I hope Willemse goes he is a talent.
We so need X factor players. Bit concerned how quiet Le R oux has been also.
Steyn never really put his hand up. Frankly I still don't know how good he is but fear he does lack pace.
We will see what happens tomorrow. Can't see Rassie making many errors. No one will agree with every selection but there should be few quibbles
What did I say about Jantjies that sent you on orbit. I said that it is not impossible - a vert remote possibility - that is all.
“OPTION 2. By fixing it for Ou Maaikie while still having a laugh about the typo as well.
“Posted by: clevermike (37313 posts)
Aug 25, 2019, 09:21
Not damn stupid - I am worried about having a dud like Steyn in the squad and a potential problem in the back-up flyhalf position to find a way to piss on Rassie for including Steyn while still maintaining that Rassie is a genius coach. That was why I wanted to see how Willemse was doping and he did very well. “
Springboks' 31-man World Cup squad:
Forwards (17)
Schalk Brits (Bulls), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (captain, Stormers), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Lions), RG Snyman (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)
Backs (14)
Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Warrick Gelant (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), S'bu Nkosi (Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handre Pollard (Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)
True.
Rassie has players who can play lock if you include Steph.
5 players for two positions.
Rassie has 5 players to cover three loose forward positions.
Interesting call. Kwagga has not proved effective against better sides thus far.
Anyhow one can pick holes in things depending on the tack you take.
There are a few debatable decisions but not too many.
That was something Cera!
Here is aa case where the Idiot Speakers are running riot again about what is down to an opinion about selections are concerned. The players they want to sack from the squad is so ridiculous and so based on distortions and misrepresentation as to what actually happened in games that one would not even bother to comment on.
At least I gave logical reasons for why I think Willemse should be in the squad and based my opinion on what actually happened in the game - the Idiot Speakers base theirs on prejudice. But hey - they are loud about a match they have not even seen. However, that is normal with them even though what they want to see an not to see in matches is even more ridiculous,
I also gave a view shared by many rugby lovers that Mostert is not physical enough o be useful as a Tight 5 player. I mentioned the line-outs in the last two tests - the one against the AF;s was particularly poor and in the Argentinian test he was not used at all in line-outs, I think he ill not play in major tests as a result.
It is weird how Mozart re-opens threads that indicates his real rugby illiteracy and performance evaluation fraud totally. LMAO
I based my evaluation on his entire body of work to date. His contributions for the Boks haven't been very good. That's not an opinion, not an alternative interpretation, but a tangible reality. A fact. He has not bettered the production of Frans, and we can safely assume Rassie feels the same way. Once again, your hero spits in your face!
Listen duds - read what I said above - you are like silly little kids hammering home your own stupidity - LMAO
Duplication
Your re-opening of tis thread is hilarious, How do you manage to keep making a fool yourself? LMAO
Your re-opening of tis thread is hilarious, How do you manage to keep making a fool yourself? LMAO
"you are like silly little kids hammering home your own stupidity"
Oh the irony Mr.D uplicate!
AO - the Idiot Speaker
You are hilarious as well - LMAO
