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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Aug 2014, 22:05
#1
16 Aug 2014, 22:05#1

The Wallabies showed plenty of character to fight back in wet conditions in Sydney, but had to settle for a 12-12 draw with the All Blacks.

The rain was always going to make the game a tough battle up front, and despite trailing by six points at half-time the home side managed to give themselves a chance of winning with a determined performance in the second half.

However, it was not to be as they shared the spoils with the All Blacks in the end which means they have to win in Auckland next week if they are to get the Bledisloe Cup back after 11 long years.

The Wallabies will take heart from the character they showed under pressure, but with the All Blacks down to 14 men for 20 minutes of the match they will also feel that they let a golden opportunity slip.

We rate the Australia players:

15 Israel Folau
Put under pressure at the back by the All Blacks' kicking game and did not get enough support. He ran sideways at times in one of his more forgettable Tests.
6/10

14 Pat McCabe
Looked like a centre on the wing as he got caught out of position time and again by kicks in behind him. Smashed into touch with the tryline in sight and also caught offside.
4/10

13 Adam Ashley-Cooper
Fairly quiet outing from Ashley-Cooper, but he did the basics well despite being unable to break the All Blacks' defensive line.
6/10

12 Matt Toomua
Something of a mixed bag, he provided a good kicking option in midfield but his passing in the slippery conditions let him down at times.
6/10

11 Rob Horne
Looked for work and made some valuable ground in midfield, but lost a few balls and did not make much of an impression out wide.
5/10

10 Kurtley Beale
Battled to impose himself at flyhalf and made a few rash calls in the All Blacks 22 to cough up possession too often.
6/10

9 Nic White
A tough night for the scrumhalf who had a few box kicks charged, and also got blown up for holding on at the breakdown and feeding the scrum skew.
5/10

8 Wycliff Palu
Solid at the back of the scrum, but went missing at times and did not make enough of an impact with the ball in hand.
6/10

7 Michael Hooper
A big effort from the skipper who led by example by getting stuck in at the breakdown and linking well on attack.
7/10

6 Scott Fardy
Gave away a few early penalties at the breakdown and in the line-out, but settled down and even stole a line-out ball.
6/10

5 Rob Simmons
A hard-working performance which saw him hit plenty of rucks and was solid as usual in the line-outs.
6/10

4 Sam Carter
A big effort from the lock who got around the park well to make plenty of tackles and a reliable source of possession in the line-outs.
7/10

3 Sekope Kepu
Put under pressure early on at scrum-time, but bounced back well as his side grabbed the ascendency in the second half.
6/10

2 Nathan Charles
Some crucial errors such as running in front of the kicker at a kick-off and a skew throw, but an enthusiastic performance otherwise.
5/10

1 James Slipper
Solid in the tight phases and got over the gainline consistently when thrown the ball in open play.
7/10

Replacements:

16 James Hanson

Not used.

17 Pek Cowan (On for Slipper, 70 mins)
Held his own in the late scrums as the All Blacks pushed for the win.
6/10

18 Ben Alexander (On for Kepu, 78 mins)
Not enough time to be rated.

19 Will Skelton (On for Palu, 70 mins)
Added some valuable physicality in the tense final stages.
6/10

20 Scott Higginbotham (On for Fardy, 66 mins)
Put in a big shift on defence and did not take a backwards step.
7/10

21 Nick Phipps (On for White, 66 mins)
Provided good service and generally made a nuisance of himself around the fringes.
6/10

22 Bernard Foley (On for Beale, 70 mins)
Did not get many opportunities to take the All Blacks defence on, but solid enough.
6/10

23 Tevita Kuridrani
Not used.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Aug 2014, 22:07
#2
16 Aug 2014, 22:07#2
 Overall most players were rated well, this is no surprise the team played well.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2014, 14:26
#3
17 Aug 2014, 14:26#3
 Higginbottom has to start for oz he is a class above palu and fardy. Hooper is by far the best openside flanker in the game - great player
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
17 Aug 2014, 15:15
#4
17 Aug 2014, 15:15#4
Phipps for white next time out. Would have liked to have seen Foley on earlier also. He seemed to control play better for the short time he was on. Surely some changes coming.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2014, 15:25
#5
17 Aug 2014, 15:25#5
 I don't rate Phips.  Foley should start at 10 with beale at 12. Mccabe is an average player and has to go. The sooner speight can start for oz the better.
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
17 Aug 2014, 16:37
#6
17 Aug 2014, 16:37#6
 Phipps and foley to start in auckland I think. Agree higgin is great player and sam carter shaping to be huge talent too. Palu brings size ans impact to the backrow so need to keep him on at 8.
If only nathan charles had of dummied and had a go at the line... he could have got there...
Shame was so wet every league lovin mate of mine today were saying how boring and useless rugby is... shame cause I didnt mind the game true test rugby... anyway go wallabies I can sense the abs are starting to wane.......
CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
18 Aug 2014, 02:00
#7
18 Aug 2014, 02:00#7
Saf, yes on Foley.
Not sure why they dont start him at 10.
Beale could even play at 15 and still be effective.
GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
18 Aug 2014, 15:24
#8
18 Aug 2014, 15:24#8
 accordingto rugby heaven most of the players of the week are aussies! i thought they were ppretty garbage. i copped some flak for not praising folau but then he just proved me right and started where he left off in last years comp. beale was never going to succeed and mccabe on the wing was weird.... he is a hard carrier like nonu more than a wing. they could have used that basher at 12. i think AACs star is fading and the pack still looks weak. but then new zealand need to step it up also, but i have more faith in nz coming good than aus improving and winning.
CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
18 Aug 2014, 17:06
#9
18 Aug 2014, 17:06#9
Saf, yes on Foley.
Not sure why they dont start him at 10.
Beale could even play at 15 and still be effective.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Aug 2014, 18:43
#10
18 Aug 2014, 18:43#10

Gonzo: the Rugby Heaven article I read was the Ozzie Sydney Morning Herald version. I didn't even bother to post it as it was so one sided (pandering to Ozzie readers).

 

Team of the Week - Rugby Heaven

GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
18 Aug 2014, 18:54
#11
18 Aug 2014, 18:54#11
 folau and beale were nowhere. boks id have are pienaar, willie, duane and morne, the rest mostly argies and all blacks. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Aug 2014, 21:27
#12
18 Aug 2014, 21:27#12
Wobblies could make a few changes. They need a Horwill type lock. Carter at 7? What happened to Horwill?
Foley could be tried at flyhalf. Beale at inside centre. Speight must come into the side as soon as possible. Ashley Cooper at 13. The wobblies missed two goal kicks and failed to take three penalty opportunities!!!. 
The abs were on top foor some 15 or so minutes at the start of the first half but then the wobblies were thereafter the better side. The second half saw a pretty dominant display by Oz and the wee abs were extremeley lucky not to have lost this game where Oz were of course the better side.



GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
19 Aug 2014, 02:34
#13
19 Aug 2014, 02:34#13
 toomua is a better 12 and 10 than beale, foley, mccabe, or just about anyone else. their best cobstructive ball player is lea so they should stick with him and toomua. i think folau could be an odruscoll kind of player at 13. he doesnt look good in the back three loojs like a playmaker centre to me. the pack is really weak so not much you can do their. all the more reason to pick mogg at 15 and play the percentages properly and avoid alot if direct multi phase contact anywhere in theur half. but ewen is as stubborn in his vision as peter. hard to believe that they could have had jake stupid ayssies didnt pick the short straw but thin air.
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
19 Aug 2014, 06:45
#14
19 Aug 2014, 06:45#14
 Gonzo are you a closet Brumbies supporter? Did you not see Mogg in the semi against the Tahs. Had a shocker and was replaced in the first half. He can be good but man he can be bad. I would like Foley at 10, Beale and Toomua in centres, AAC on the wing and Izzy at 15. Will be tough regardless.
GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
19 Aug 2014, 14:16
#15
19 Aug 2014, 14:16#15
 man mogg is the closest australia have to a test quality 15. hes a damn good player and gives them pace which they are kind oof short on. Folau blew yet another test just like hes horror show season last year. i dont care about Stupour Rugby, test rugby is another beast and the aussies need to start getting serious and dropping these duds. beale is a loser, cooper is a loser, folau is a loser... they've never been good enough and never will be good enough. i thought ewen was supposed to understand australia rugby really well but looks even worse than peter de villiers! got worse results than peters first four years hahahaha!
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