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'WORLD STOPS' AS ALL BLACKS FACE BOKS. Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2016, 20:51
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15 Sept 2016, 20:51#1

IN THE SPOTLIGHT: NEW ZEALAND AND SOUTH AFRICA REVISITED ONE OF THE GAME'S MOST NOTORIOUS INCIDENTS AND PROMISED A FIERCE BATTLE AS THE ALL BLACKS BID TO WRAP UP THE RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP WITH TWO ROUNDS TO SPARE.

The world champions are runaway Rugby Championship leaders and a fourth straight bonus-point win on Saturday -– provided Australia beat Argentina in Perth - would be enough to regain the Southern Hemisphere title.

But despite the unbeaten All Blacks' fearsome form, they have a history with South Africa and coaches Steve Hansen and Allister Coetzee said recent results would mean little in Christchurch.

Hansen recalled the second Test in 1970, when Syd Nomis notoriously lost several teeth when he was felled by All Blacks fullback Fergie McCormick - who was roughed up so much in the third Test that he couldn't start the fourth.

"One thing I'll never forget is Fergie McCormick's tackle on Syd Nomis and what happened afterwards," Hansen said.

"The reason it sticks out is because, whilst it's not what would happen in today's game, it's the ferociousness of how both teams attack each other and play and then afterwards it's shaking hands."

Coetzee described All Black-Springbok Tests as "a big battle the world stops and looks at.

"It's going to be a physical battle, it's going to be a battle of attrition and skill sets that will be tested," he said.

To underscore their physical approach to the match, the Springboks have stacked their bench with six forwards and only two backs with a clear plan to use their muscle up front to starve the expressive All Black backs.

In their three Tests so far the All Blacks have scored 128 points including 18 tries, and conceded just 39 points.

South Africa, coming off a loss to Australia, have scored only seven tries, with 71 points for and 72 against.

Targeting the forwards "gives us a chance to stay in the game in the second half and even win it", Coetzee said, adding that gaining control up front was paramount.

"It will be a battle of the set piece," he said.

Hansen has made only one injury-forced change to the All Blacks, with Ardie Savea winning his first Test start following a hamstring injury to Sam Cane.

Savea's explosive running has made him one of the stand-out players for Super Rugby champions Wellington Hurricanes, but Hansen warned his priorities are different at Test level.

Despite thrashing Argentina 57-22 last week, the All Blacks were exposed defensively around the ruck and that is to be Savea's focus against South Africa.

"He's now got to come out and do the work Sam's been doing, the hard work," Hansen said.

"He's going to have to be strong in the tackle, strong over the ball. If he gets the opportunity to carry I think you'll see that's the natural side of his game, but the core roles he's got he's going to have to do really well."

The All Blacks walloped the Wallabies in the first two rounds of the championship, and the Australians then beat South Africa.

But Hansen said the sequence of results would fire up the Springboks rather than intimidate them.

"They're a very good side and backs against the wall they'll be desperate, they'll be hungry," he said.

"History tells us, regardless of what either nation's been doing prior to a Test match between each other, the game is always tight and tough and both teams have got a heck of a lot of pride."

The last time the All Blacks played the Springboks they narrowly won 20-18 in the World Cup semi-final at Twickenham last year.

Agence France-Presse

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2016, 20:55
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15 Sept 2016, 20:55#2
 Well at least some see this as it is, i.e. an old rivalry that will be hard fought. Boks will give it everything they have so it should be a good game. 
Ardie starting is good but he is not so much an in close muscle the ball up type of player so we will see how he goes. The Boks may try to keep the ball in close and battle through the forwards as their backs aren't much to write home about.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
16 Sept 2016, 08:26
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16 Sept 2016, 08:26#3

Traditionally yes ... we've been foes since the beginning of time ... but all that's changed over the last 20 years. The jungle bunnies in power have seen to it. 
Now we're just another Zimbabwe or Namibia. We have the means to present a decent challenge but lack the support of the government. 
Our greatest enemy is the very people who should be supporting us. They're envious and jealous of our previous successes and are on a mission to see us fail as they have.   There's no stopping them.
It doesn't help either when you have Government spokesmen like Gavin Rich and many others promoting their racist regime. They write article upon article trying to convince us that the best we have is what's on the field ... telling us that we're failing because we don't have the talent. Much like another idiot I know. 
Truly astounding ... and I've told them so.  
Hansen's respect for us is appreciated ... but totally unfounded. Perhaps he's just trying to get bums in seats. 

It wouldn't surprise me to see a half empty stadium. It's what we deserve. In fact I'm hoping for it. We saw an half empty stadium against the Wallabies.   
We are in for a thumping and I hope it's a big one. 72 pts to 3 would be wonderful. 

We'll see how long this quota coach can stand the calls for his head. I hope to see him tender his resignation by years end. 



MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
16 Sept 2016, 08:37
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16 Sept 2016, 08:37#4
CC,Never in my wildest dreams would I have said what I'm about to say.I hope the AB's take NO mercy. I hope the stadium has empty seats, and the more the better, and I hope we get thoroughly thrashed.
 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
16 Sept 2016, 09:13
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16 Sept 2016, 09:13#5
 Monster ... It's a sad day when one calls for this type of thing ... but what are we to do?
Supporting them is not an option ... not till a sense of fair play comes in. 
Empty stadiums and a lot of booing from the few that are there (those with free tickets) is hopefully the future of this "Bok."
I'm also not apposed to a good rotten fruit pelting ... especially on the coach. I'd even go as far as to make several rotten fruit stalls available at every test.





MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
16 Sept 2016, 09:33
#6
16 Sept 2016, 09:33#6
It is sad, but the message has to get though somehow.  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Sept 2016, 10:09
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16 Sept 2016, 10:09#7
 "It doesn't help either when you have Government spokesmen like Gavin Rich and many others promoting their racist regime. They write article upon article trying to convince us that the best we have is what's on the field ... telling us that we're failing because we don't have the talent. Much like another idiot I know. "

You have touched on something here, CC.  These idiot "scribes" do not understand the difference between the terms talent and skill. The bottom line is that we have all the talent but we do not have the skills to be at the top. Add to that the fact that our coaching set-up is in the gutter as well.  
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
16 Sept 2016, 10:27
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16 Sept 2016, 10:27#8
 They promote players like Jantjies and Mohoje ... they try to convince us that we have no better and that we're to merely accept these losers. They speak them up as conquerors of the rugby world.  
It's not a matter of "skill vs talent" but rather talent and form vs quota / handout / racism / transformation and ignorance. 
Does Jantjies have sufficient skill and talent to play at test level?
No!! Most definitely not!!
Yet we have that idiot "Sark" on Super Sport telling us that the sining (shining) light on the day against the Wallabies was Jantjies.
Not only is this fool illiterate but ignorance is a strength of his ... and he's allowed to voice his opinion to thousands across the land. 
Many people will swallow this as fact ... many people believe what they read ... without question.

These guys have the power to present us with the truth but they choose to mislead us with lies and I at times think they've been fed a story to pass onto the public. 
That get's my goat ... 




BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
16 Sept 2016, 10:35
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16 Sept 2016, 10:35#9
 Question is,......  is there a Kiwi with the balls to flour bomb the pitch?
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
16 Sept 2016, 10:42
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16 Sept 2016, 10:42#10
BBF,I'm in Perth, would it helped if I flour bomb NIB Stadium during the Oz vs Puma game???  
BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
16 Sept 2016, 11:38
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16 Sept 2016, 11:38#11
 Well it is almost 35 years to the day since the Eden Park test.12 Sept 1981The parallel of another flower bombing to highlight selection issues would be too obvious for the world to ignore. Id be happy to fly the plane but I am in the UK.Any takers?? 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
16 Sept 2016, 12:19
#12
16 Sept 2016, 12:19#12

What's the problem BokBF


If you leave now, you could just make it for the start of the game  

BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
16 Sept 2016, 15:59
#13
16 Sept 2016, 15:59#13
 You know, I had a booked ticket to RWC2011 till we lost to OZ now I would not make the 25 mile trip to Twickenham to watch them.  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
16 Sept 2016, 16:55
#14
16 Sept 2016, 16:55#14
What about Ijuba  bombs, instead of a flower one?That stuff stinks. 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
17 Sept 2016, 02:30
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17 Sept 2016, 02:30#15
 The Wallabies dont behave like proper rugby men these days ,hard fight on the paddock shake hands and share a beer afterwards .Now theyre about the niggle and sledging and only accepting the invite after one of their rare wins so as to gloat as they did in Hong Kong .One of the things I like about Bok rugby .In 81 I was living in Oz but went home for the tour and I couldnt believe how aggro it  was in my normally quiet homeland . So my cousins and I were on the wrong side of history but being young mad keen rugby guys all we wanted was to watch the ABs battle the old foe .The cancelled game in my home county made us especially p!ssed off but there was nothing we could do about it except have  a go at the HART protesters ,the odd copper got a belt in the teeth too for getting in the way and well for being coppers I guess .But we were wrong then and maybe its the same now I dunno I farking hate my rugby with a side of politics .
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