The third try showcased exactly what we are missing if we persist with Pienaar and JJ. Du Preez has extraordinary cerebral faculty and sends a clever chip down the touchline, but Fourie, in his usual way, sniffs an opportunity and perfectly scoops a pin-point pass into the chest of Du Preez who is off and running unchallenged. All from nothing. Never would this have happened had Pienaar being there, instead it would have been sent route one to Alberts or punted wearily up-field. Certainly, the robotic JJ does not possess Fourie's hound-like sense for opportunity. We look a much better and ulltimately more cohesive unit with these two back. More solid.
Then there was the Boks first try, which was very satisfying in how it was created.
The Box Formation with two players shadowing in behind the first two;
the first two fixing the midfield and the two in behind ready for a wide
play. Morne could very well have sent it to be crashed first, but he
rightly sensed the time was ripe for something more. This was started first
and foremost by Morne making the right decision. A decision that Lambie
would never make.
So in the end, three players who were castigated as hasbeens and never-will-bes are making the difference. All three possessing superior rugby brains than the younger whelps who just can't quite catch up with their reputation.
You just can't beat intellect...
What crap, so the fact that Fourie is now past it and looks like a donkey on the park, we should stick with him so that he might come up with one great fluke a game.......wow, that really is inspirational stuff.........talk about short sighted and stupidity of the highest regard.
Yeah lets stick with Fourie at 13!!!
Sun-Tsu
It went straight over your head - does it not? If he was on-side with his donkey pace Fourie would never have gotten to the ball and thus be able to make the pass to Du Preez. The fact that the ref made a mistake and did not see him being off-side and secondly never call for a video review - gifted the Springboks a try that never should never have been and in the case of most other referees. You cannot praise a person who obviously was off-side and could have caused serious problems if he was in fact blown up by the referee.
Fourie was an absolute embarrassment for the whole game - the way Davies ran past him without even an attempted tackle was a farce - in fact the worst performance by any SA 13 for years. He is unfit and slower than a cart horse - so any future with him is impossible to contemplate.
The only embarrassment suffered was yours, Mike ... as you watched Alberts, Flip, JP, Du Preez and Jaque show you up as a complete ignorant fool ... so please save the lecture ... you are already the laughing stock ...
Fury was offside....so what? We are not judging the legalities here, we are commenting on a moment of magic.
As Fury gets the ball the move is dead....the Welsh have him totally surrounded. He takes the ball superbly and in the same motion turns, and then Flips (er flips) a perfect pass to F du Preez who is at full pace....not slowing down. Both players sensed the opportunity and executed brilliantly. If either of them were a fraction off in their timing it doesn't happen
And the stone heads on this site, so absorbed in protecting their ex ante bias ....try and negate this piece of magic. Do they actually enjoy watching the Boks win, one wonders!
Mozart
Get it through your thick skull - Fourie was poor in the whole game and being off-side he was poor in this case as well. His pace is the factor. If the ref blew him up - where would the Springboks have ended up - in their own 25. Is his moment of magic to be too slow witted for him to know when he is off-side or not? When that type of thing happened in a game - it is better not to recognise it as an advent for the future. He is bound to fail then as he should have on Saturday.
Mozart
Get it through your thick skull - Fourie was poor in the whole game and being off-side he was poor in this case as well. His pace is the factor. If the ref blew him up - where would the Springboks have ended up - in their own 25. Is his moment of magic to be too slow witted for him to know when he is off-side or not? When that type of thing happened in a game - it is better not to recognise it as an advent for the future. He is bound to fail then as he should have on Saturday.
fingers croseed hes there next year to play against the All Blacks, i would really enjoy the All Blacks beating the Boks in all the tests again for the 3rd year in a row,
Mozart
Looking at the game on Saturday there is fierce competition in the backlinen who is to be the the backline replica of Pierre Spies:-
1. Front of the line is Morne Steyn with his faulty technique and backslapping tendencies.
2 In serious competition is Jaque Fourie - he avoided contact with Davies like a plague.
3 JJ Engelbrcht a poor third - in some respects the same defective technical technique of Steyn - minus the backslapping component applied by Steyn, but without desperate efforts like Fourie in trying to avoid contact with the opposition 13 (Davies).
On looking at the game again - I think that Wales lost the game when Davies went off so early. If he stayed on the tackle avoidance efforts of Fourie would certainly have resulted in a number of tries for the Welsh.
In the short time he was on the pitch Morne kicked a penalty from almost the 10 metre line (any school boy could have landed that according to the OOM), landed two routine conversions, got the Boks on the Welsh line by going for the corner, eschewing the goal kick and launched Habana for the JdV try, when the natural play would have been to kick.
But the OOM claims he contributed nothing.
Its all a bit fickle Moz
I think it's safe bet we will hear about Morne at Ellis Park again, sans the bit that says Morne made the most backline tackles and his success ratio at 64% was considerably better than the average success ratio at 51%. And if you look at Steyn's misses, they were mostly situations where he was making last ditch desperation lunges eg on Ben Smith.
The OOM has no sense of context.
JJ is the only viable test option we have at 13 given how good he has been this year and in particular against the best side in the game where he comprehensively outplayed Conrad Smith.
My guess is clueless Meyer is having a good look at what Fourie, JP and Bakkies have to offer. I hope that Fourie starts at 13 again, just so that we can get confirmation of just how shit he is these days.
When it comes to France......its going to be the opposite of your original call where you had JJ starting against Wales and Fourie taking control by France.
Ability to create space.......well we saw that when he put Kirchner away for his try against Oz.......we saw that when he put Willie into space against the Kiwi's, with Willie chipping ahead and nearly gathering to score, we then saw him put Jean into space down the touchline, only to have Jean slip when he tried to step........but there is no better example of his ability to create space when he beat Savea with pure skill on the outside and putting Willie into space with a pin point pass to his wrong side........sorry Xtra, there is little more JJ needs to do to deliver in the creating space department.
The biggest concern is the pathetic treatment by Meyer of our two best attacking backs in JJ and Willie.........it serves to confirm what a conservative man he is. Bok rugby is going to struggle under Meyer......the man is not an advocate of creativity and flair......hence Louw at 6, Morne at 10, Jean at 12 and now Fourie at 13......its boring shit
One has to ultimately live with the coach's choices Dave. I find myself lucky in that his views generally aren't a big problem for me.
I'd love to live with his decisions but I cant and if they continue in this vain we have no hope in hell of ever seriously challenging the Kiwi's.
Mozart
Your idea that pigs are the best way of dealing with issues where your arguments have been proved to be absolute pig shit are really laughable.
Lets face facts - you have a new found love for Fourie at 13 and pigs - because according to you he is he best thing that happened to the Springbok rugby since AD Jacobs - which of course is absolute pig shit. He is wonderful because he replaced Engelbrecht on Saturday and the one-eyed one incident junkie is back in full force.
In one of the incidents both his heroes Fourie and Morne Steyn is involved. In the first case - the confusion on the face of the utterly beaten Fourie by Davies is the joke of the week. He has not seen anything like that in the two years he has been playing touch rugby in Japan. After all if you touch a player he is supposed to go down - problem is he was not there to even touch Davies - because he is so slow it is unbelievable.
That brings me to the second incident when Davie ran past the defence defective Fourie and there was Morne who used the backslapping defence technique again - just to prove that he has developed it into an art form. Then - according to Mozart - the despicable Lambie had to make a proper tackle on Davies to stop a potential try.
However, there is one thing that is evident and that is the defence of your other hero Morne Steyn - he does not need Fourie to teach him anything about touch rugby - Morne knows it all. In the Barrett try issue he slapped Barrett on his back and instead of going down in terms of the principles of touch rugby - it allows Mozart to argue that the slap was sufficient to force Barrett to run outward towards Engelbrecht - so voila - Engelbrecht miss tackle is the sole and only reason for Barrett scoring his try.
When it was pointed out to Mozart that the injury to Davies save the day for Fourie insofar his defence is concerned Mozart reacted a follows. Suddenly the fact that the Springboks scored a wonderful try through a break by Habana, passing to Du Plessis and ultimately to Jean de Villiers - is used to cover up the putrid and non-existent defence of Fourie when Davies ran past him twice as was pointed out in the preceeding paragraphs. Please note that Fourie had n part whatsoever in the scoring of that try. As a rule logic on his part is always non-existent when Mozart is confronted with facts - but this one really takes the cake.
The same pig shit approach on the part of Mozart was in evidence when Sasue pointed out that the display of Fourie on Saturday was desperately poor. He was advised by Mozart to concentrate on the upcoming test on Saturday between England and the All Blacks - as if that has anything to do with the poor display by Fourie on Saturday.
The one-incident junkie took over when Fourie - from an off-side position was able to get to a ball - gets possession of the ball and flip-passed it Du Preez to score his try. Out of the window goes the real fact that if he was on-side the real speed deficiency on the part of Fourie would never have enabled him to get to he ball and collect it. The mistake by the referee not to blow him up for being off-side or consulting the TV ref on the issue is ignored. This incident is now suddenly used to ignore the deficiencies showed by Fourie throughout the match and to portray his glorious return to SA Rugby. Forget the illegality of the issue - something referees would normally pick up - and just use the incident to illustrate how Fourie is now the answer to SA rugby problems in finding an acceptable no 13. Anybody - irrespective how poor he is - is welcome provided that his surname is not Engelbrecht.
If Fourie is played in future - one thing is assured - and that is that we will be in deeper trouble than we were ever before in backline defence in tests against strong opposition. Mozart calls Engelbrecht a turnstile in respect of defence - he may be that - but the speed-deficient Fourie is not a turnstile - he is an open gate.
That is why I am in favour of playing Fourie against the weakish Scottish team - his poor performance will despite their weakness be exposed again - but other players will be able to save the situation against the Scots and we will survive despite his deficiencies, However, that will not always be possible in future and we will be saved serious embarrassment in future tests.
NOW PLEASE SAVE FACE AND BE EVEN MORE PIG-BESOTTED BY POSTING ANOTHER PIG PHOTO IN RESPONSE - IT WILL REALLY SHOW YOU UP AS THE BIGGEST FOOL WHO EVER CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SITE.
crawling in the dirt?
And for all the little piggies
life is getting worse,
always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
in their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies
stirring up the dirt,
always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their styes with all their backing
they don't care what goes on around.
In their eyes there's something lacking
what they need's a damn good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
living piggy lives.
You can see them out for dinner
with their piggy wives
clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.
crawling in the dirt?
And for all the little piggies
life is getting worse,
always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
in their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies
stirring up the dirt,
always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their styes with all their backing
they don't care what goes on around.
In their eyes there's something lacking
what they need's a damn good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
living piggy lives.
You can see them out for dinner
with their piggy wives
clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.


