Your ideal Bok XV

 

How about

1.     Schalk vd Merwe

2.     Bismarck Du Plessis

3.     Julian Redelinghuyse

4.     Paul Willemse

5.     Eben Etzebeth

6.     Jaco Kriel

7.     Duane Vermeulen

8.     Nizam Karr

9.     Kobus Reinach

10.  Handre Pollard

11.  Bryan Habana

12.  Damian De Allende

13.  S’Bura Sithole

14.  Senatla

15.  Willie Le Roux

 

 CC
I like the Lions props and am amazed that Meyer is not considering them - they have been the top scrumming props in Super 15.  
However, in the main I agree with APD on his outline.  Cannot really fault him at all.

How about PSDT at 7?

 Ceradyne
Possible -but I do not like locks playing as loosies - it never works out in the long run.      

Love your side bud.....I'd have Arno Botha in the side at 8 or 7 with vermeulen at 7 if I played Arno at 8. But would be tempted to have Jacques du Plessis or PSDT at 7.
Lock partner for Etzebeth would be Lood or Willemse.
I'd have JJ on the wing ahead of Habana and Hougaard would be my 9.
Toss up between Goosen, Pollard or Lambie at 10.
I'd have the likes of Frans on the bench.

 I like the team CC, the lions props are good and definitely won't let you down. Also, moving to Duane to 7 is definitely an option especially with the lack of quality 7's in the country. We do have a lot of depth at 8 with Van Der Walt, etc...and Ceradyne whilst I think PSDT would be excellent at 7, I think he's just too good at lock to move

What do you guys think of Kolbe, he's looking electric but do you think he'll be too small for test rugby?

 Definitely Saf , Arno is a great player, we seem to have some real excellent number 8's. I completely forgot about Jacques du Plessis, he's definitely an option, a real talent as is Jacques Potgieter!
It's sad to think with all this depth we're still having to put up with the likes of Ruan and Matfield. 
What are your thoughts on Kolbe Saffex?

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 Not a bad side cc but for your tight head and sithole is handy but not our best option at 13. Carr is not physical enough for a test 8...i see him more as a 6

I like Kolbe he is a real talent. While I prefer bigger players, he is the one little guy who could make it but I would only play him on the wing

 clevermike

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September 11, 2014, 14:47:41  Ceradyne
Possible -but I do not like locks playing as loosies - it never works out in the long run.      

Didn't he shine for the Baby Boks at seven? I am sure that he has had a few great games at seven at some stage?

 I would pick a fit Bekker above any other 5 in the world, unfortunately he's almost never completely without injury. :-(

 Agreed. This guy is a star on the wing.
Kolbe (or Colbe) is a real speed merchant with good hand ball skills supported with a strong running game and sidestep.
He also has guts and is not afraid to tackle.
Just a matter of time before he pulls the Green and Gold over his shoulders.
Not so sure about Carr....
Like the pairing of Pollard and Reinach.

 JRWC 2012 . SA v England

Team 15 FB Dillyn Leyds 14 W Paul Jordaan 13 C William Small-Smith 12 C Jan Serfontein 11 W Patrick Howard 10 FH Handre Pollard 9 SH Vian van der Watt 1 P Steven Kitshoff 2 H Jason Thomas 3 P Oliver Kebble 4 L Paul Willemse 5 L Ruan Botha 6 F Shaun Adendorff 7 F Pieter-Steph du Toit 8 N8 Fabian Booysen     Replacements 16 R Mark Pretorius 17
Allan Dell 18
Khaya Majola 19
Braam Steyn 20
Abrie Griesel 21
Marius Schmidt 22
Tshotsho Mbovane 23 R Nicolaas Van Dyk

SA v Arg


Team 15 FB Dillyn Leyds 14 W Paul Jordaan 13 C William Small-Smith 12 C Jan Serfontein 11 W Tshotsho Mbovane 10 FH Handre Pollard 9 SH Vian van der Watt 1 P Steven Kitshoff 2 H Mark Pretorius 3 P Nicolaas Van Dyk 4 L Paul Willemse 5 L Ruan Botha 6 F Shaun Adendorff 7 F Pieter-Steph du Toit 8 N8 Fabian Booysen     Replacements 16 R Franco Marais 17 R Allan Dell 18 R Wian Liebenberg 19 R Braam Steyn 20 R Abrie Griesel 21 R Tony Jantjies 22 R Raymond Rhule 23 R Oliver Kebble
SA v NZ (Final)


Team 15 FB Dillyn Leyds 14 W Raymond Rhule 13 C Jacobus Van Wyk 12 C Jan Serfontein 11 W Tshotsho Mbovane 10 FH Handre Pollard 9 SH Vian van der Watt 1 P Steven Kitshoff 2 H Mark Pretorius 3 P Nicolaas Van Dyk 4 L Paul Willemse


57 5 L Ruan Botha 6 F Wian Liebenberg 7 F Pieter-Steph du Toit 8 N8 Fabian Booysen     Replacements 16
Franco Marais 17 R Allan Dell 18
Braam Steyn 19
Shaun Adendorff 20
Abrie Griesel 21
Tony Jantjies 22
Travis Ismaiel 23
Oliver Kebble

Bok sides:
15. Willie 14. JP 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Senatla 10. Goosen 9. Hougaard 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Coenie 4. Willemse 5. Etzebeth 6. Coetzee 7. Steph du Toit 8. Arno Botha
15. Taute 14. Sithole 13. de Allende 12. Frans 11. Hendricks 10. Lambie 9. Reinach 1. Kitshoff 2. Strauss 3. M.v/d Merwe 4. Lood 5. J.du Plessis 6. Brussouw 7. Elstadt 8. CJ Stander
15. SP Marais 14. Kobus v/Wyk 13. Hanekom 12. Esterhuizen 11. Rhule 10. Pollard 9. de Klerk 1. du Toit 2. Chiliboy 3. Malherbe 4. J.Marais 5. Lewies 6. Kolisi 7. Labascagne 8. v/d Walt
15. J.Kriel 14. v/d Heever 13. Mapoe 12. F.Venter 11. Kolbe 10. Jantjies 9. v/Zyl 1. Nkanyane 2. Cooper 3. F.Kirsten 4. Kleyn 5. R.Botha 6. Carr 7. Rhodes 8. Mtembu
15. Visser 14. Jordaan 13. Howard 12. Odendaal 11. Skosan 10. Swiel 9. Groom 1. Mellett 2. Visagie 3. M.v/Dyk 4. Q.Roux 5. P.Marais 6. Kriel 7. Mohoje 8. Whiteley
15. A.Coetzee 14. de Jongh 13. Watermeyer 12. Mnisi 11. Volmink 10. Catrekillis 9. Schrueder 1.S.v/d Merwe 2. Scara 3. R.de Klerk 4. Oosthuizen 5. C .Wegner 6. Fourie 7.Hattingh 8.Ross

 Not a single mention of Jacques Potgieter. 

Have we officially disowned him? Or is he now or double, reverse back double bluff triple agent?

He was pretty awesome this year.

Potgieter has been good and worthy of consideration  

 I like the teams Saf, shows just how much depth we have. The first would definitely have us challenging for 1st place ranking,  even the second to be honest. Are you not a fan of Vermeulen?

And I like Potgieter, I mentioned him in one of the above post but admittedly forgot him in my opening post. 

Btw, welcome to the boards Plum, I'm liking your posts.

 15. Willie Le Roux  14. JP  13. De Allende  12. De Villiers  11. Habana  10. Pollard  9. Du Preez  8. Vermeulen  7. Coetzee  6. Brussow  5. Etzebeth  4. Willemse  3. Julian Redlinghuys  2. Bismarck  1. Beast
16. Thomas Du Toit  17. Strauss  18. Malherbe  19. De Jager  20. CJ Stander  21. Faf De Klerk  22. Goosen  23. Serfontein
Other players such as Senatla, Schalk Van Der Merwe, Labuschagne, Hougaard, Whiteley, Pieter Steph Du Toit and Kolbe would be in my squad. 

Assuming no injuries . . .
15 Cheslin Kolbe14 Seabelo Senatla13 Damian De Allende12 Jan Serfontein11 Bryan Habana10 Handre Pollard9 Cobus Reinach8 Nizaam Carr7 Jacques du Plessis6 Marcel Coetzee5 Eben Etzebeth4 Pieter-Steph du Toit3 Frans Malherbe2 Bismarck du Plessis1 Beast Mtawarira
I know no-one will agree with my fullback but screw Willie and his stupid little chip kicks . . . not to mention his blatant simulation. Habana is also on shaky ground in this regard.