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Your thoughts chaps....it's a kick to win the RWC

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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:10
#1
14 Oct 2013, 18:10#1

The Ab s have been disposed of and the Boks have a kick on the 22, fifteen metres from touch to beat the newly emerged Japanese team, which has found a way to grant citzenship to all the mercenaries playing there. There are two minutes left in the final.

 

 

Up trots either Lambie or Morne....your pick. NZ votes will be scanned for skulduggery.

DD
dan danRookie46 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:22
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14 Oct 2013, 18:22#2
 Morne Steyn for sure,Lamnie can be a bit scetchy with his goal kicks,although Catrikils has BMT so would pick him before Lambie as well
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:35
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14 Oct 2013, 18:35#3

Definitely not Morne - I gave his stats elsewhere and when he is in a tight situation - he flops 50% of the time - viz the Bulls-Brumbies semi-final,  That miss ratio is way too high to trust him with any kick of that nature.

 

I would rather trust Lambie with a kick like that - he does miss slightly more kicks (4%) than Morne on average - but he does not collapse in tight situations like Mo rne does repeatedly. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:38
#4
14 Oct 2013, 18:38#4

 

Mozart, you expect us to get in the middle of this and without sculduggery? lol

 

The first assumption is not grounded in reality - have you been talking to Beeno again?

 

But as this is purely a hypothetical situation I vote for Morne. He most likely would have put the Boks in this situation because he was too slow and could not spark the backline to score any tries, lol

 

I think I maneuvered my self out of that so both the Lambie and the Morne supporters should feel some degree of validation

 

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:43
#5
14 Oct 2013, 18:43#5
@mozter,

i ahve no idea why u dont try ur hand at fantasy rugby, its obvious fantasy and rugby come very natural to u,

but i would say morne without a doubt, morne has the same aura as wilkinson, the type of aura which was built for that very situation.

and i also cant help but feel that if that hypothetical was to eventuate and morne and lambie were both on the field, morne would walk over and take the ball and kicking tee and lambie would say nothing.
morne is after all in SA the alpha male when it comes to kicking.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Oct 2013, 18:56
#6
14 Oct 2013, 18:56#6
Just a thought - if Morne is s till in the team come WC time - we are doomed before we start in the competition - so lets hope he is history by then.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2013, 19:09
#7
14 Oct 2013, 19:09#7
JW in NZ's case maybe a better word would be dullskuggery. But I wouldn't put anything past you fellows.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Oct 2013, 19:17
#8
14 Oct 2013, 19:17#8
 Mozart: perhaps bullsduggery is appropriate for a certain South African team, lol
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2013, 21:29
#9
14 Oct 2013, 21:29#9
Or just plain traditional NZ sheepthuggery er buggery ? 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Oct 2013, 21:56
#10
14 Oct 2013, 21:56#10
Don't think you win many friends with that one Mozart.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Oct 2013, 23:21
#11
14 Oct 2013, 23:21#11
Maybe so JW, but it just seemed such a natural progression from bulls to sheep and magically the rhyming fell in place.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:03
#12
15 Oct 2013, 00:03#12
Lambie having played 77 min, Morne to kick the goal having come off the bench with 3 minutes to go as there would be no way in hell the side would have got to that winning position if Morne had played the whole game at 10.

But having said that, Morne has hardly set the world alight with his goal kicking this year so I see no real point in him.......but lets face it, there have never been question marks against his goal kicking.......that's all he is good for.

Morne would never have won a single test cap if I was the Bok coach and that is not a joke. He is just too average a rugby player for my liking. Your test 10 has to have some flair and creativity.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:09
#13
15 Oct 2013, 00:09#13
Mozart: lol, maybe you should have stuck with shrubbery (as  in Monty python) but I see how you came up with it. The mind goes to some strange places sometimes.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:33
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15 Oct 2013, 00:33#14
Yep I remember Dave, you were hot to trot for Pienaar to replace Morne at 10. Man I guess that satisfies your edict to never play Morne.....but at what cost?
JW in these matters I assume there is always shrubbery ....lots of shrubbery
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:43
#15
15 Oct 2013, 00:43#15
Yes, good response Mozart, some things are best left unseen & even better unknown.
Back to rugby matters, as you probably expected Morne is not loved by all posters on here. I do remember games when he made us groan with his kicking he was that good. But there has to be someone who is better at unleashing the backs  and has a decent enough boot?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:49
#16
15 Oct 2013, 00:49#16

 Saffex

 

With respect I do not buy into Morne's infallibility at kicking  at goal.  Last year in the CR he was down to 42% success rate - this year it increased to 79%.   However, the issue is the conditions under which Morne is to kick.   In a tight game - like the Bulls -Brumbies semi in Super 15 Morne's success rate dropped to 50%.  In the Ellis Park test it was 66% - so Morne under pressure does not convert key kicks - especially if they are slightly difficult - and those are facts of life.  I think stress contributes to his failures and when u nder stress he becomes unreliable.

 

Under the conditions mentioned by Mozart - a successful kick by Morne has no chance of success. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:52
#17
15 Oct 2013, 00:52#17
Yep I stand by Pienaar at 10 when we had few options at 10..............look no further than Pienaar's display at 10 for the Boks against England where he won MOM for his attacking game, unlike Morne who has the odd MOM for his kicking display.

Butch was my first choice back then, with Pienaar as back-up. Morne has never featured in any of my Bok sides and for good reason, for with Morne on board we have only won about 65% of our tests......just not good enough.

A good test side needs a creative pivot, something Morne has never been
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Oct 2013, 00:55
#18
15 Oct 2013, 00:55#18
Nuff said.  
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Oct 2013, 01:26
#19
15 Oct 2013, 01:26#19
 Why would the boks be there ?
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