Mr Municipality leaves a legacy (Mike)

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Jun 07, 2015, 19:08

Retired municipal senior administrator of over 20 years, Tokkie Saayman is ending his long tenure on the North Coast to relocate to the Cape to be closer to his family.

Currently living in Tinley Manor, Saayman is excited for the move, but reflective on his many years spent living and working here.

One of Saayman’s main roles at the municipality was rural development, with his first big project for Ballito municipality being the settlement of Groutville in 1983.

“Groutville became one of our headaches – it was a free-for-all with no services whatsoever,” said Saayman.

According to Saayman, issues of poverty and crime plagued the settlement and his experience in Groutville later extended into Nkobongo where social development was also desperately needed.

“There were no roads, there was no water – absolutely nothing. So we worked 12 hours a day and seven days a week.”

One of the biggest problems, said Saayman, was that in order to build the roads they had to remove some of the shacks and were left with the issue of where to put them. With 700 families living five people to one shack in Nkobongo at the time, the plan was to build 1 200 new units for residents of the township, but the demand for housing was somewhat underestimated by the municipality.

“The problem was that even 2 000 units would have been too few,” said Saayman, as many more people than initially anticipated flocked from surrounding areas to secure a new home for themselves.

Saayman then secured R150 000 to build a water pipeline from Shaka’s Head to Nkobongo as residents of both townships had no access to clean water.

“The people would collect their drinking water from puddles on the tar roads, so we just had to provide them with running water.”

In addition to these projects, he secured a R1.5m investment from Bruce Hullett over a cup of coffee to develop 28 hectares of land next to the existing Shaka’s Head township. Such a feat came to characterise Saayman’s friendly but firm ‘no-nonsense’ approach to town planning and township development as defined by his uncanny ability to secure funds from a reluctant provincial government.

As an individual who has not only witnessed the North Coast’s growth over the last two decades, but as someone who has participated in it, Saayman said Ballito’s continuing expansion is a good thing, but must be done with care.

“Economic development must always have an objective, it must ensure that the environment is not abused and must also accommodate as many employment opportunities as possible”.

Affectionately known as ‘Mr Municipality’, Saayman went on to say that in 1986 there were only two small stores in Ballito and he has enjoyed playing a role in its growth.

“The key to success is to build and strengthen relationships between all people, both rich and poor and as long as the municipality commits to this, Ballito could have a very bright future.”

http://northcoastcourier.co.za/38541/mr-municipality-leaves-a-legacy/


Regardless of what some of the people on here think of Mike's rugby picks, I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say that this is a very impressive list of achievements, someone who's always put his community and others ahead. Well done, Mike. Good luck on the move.

Jun 07, 2015, 19:23

Now let's not leave out old Tokkie's picture.....decrepit old coot. Moobs to the fore!

 

'Mr Municipality' Tokkie Saayman served the Dolphin Coast for more than 20 years.

Jun 07, 2015, 19:30

 He He!

Jun 07, 2015, 19:57

Just kidding. Well done on the good work done.

Jun 07, 2015, 19:57

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Jun 07, 2015, 19:59

 Thanks APD - your message is sincerely appreciated.


Sharkbok - old and fat - but still very funny.   :D:D:D

Jun 07, 2015, 21:21

 Well done CleverMike!

Jun 07, 2015, 22:14

Does anyone here remember the shrill, squealing hysterics we had to endure when I put up a picture of Moffie some years ago?


I see the same standards don't apply when Moffie is plastering ou Maaik's name and picture all over these boards and being a complete and utter %&$# about it in his inimitable &%$#ish style . . . and those who know me know that I don't use foul language easily . . . but here's the most hypocritical, nasty and vindictive little man trying to score some cheap shots when ou Maaik has given us some honest and well-meaning insight into his history and his not-inconsiderable achievements.

I suspect Moffie is just jealous because no-one is trumpeting anything he's ever achieved, everything we know about Moffie has all come from the self-absorbed and self-aggrandizing old fop himself. There's the difference.

Good luck with the move and your retirement, ou Maaik. I wouldn't worry about Moffie's small-minded and petty attacks on you. I'm quite sure that most fair-minded posters here can appreciate that you've made a real contribution to this country while Moffie simply ran away when the going got tough and the colour of his skin no longer gave him any advantage . . . a point that he made quite clearly to Dave when they met when he confided about how much he hates the vast majority of the non-white South African population.

By the way, I'm not sure how many of you have seem relatively recent pictures of ou Maaik and Moffie but ou Maaik is in much better shape . . . and looks like a much nicer person!

Well done ou Maaik and good luck to you!

Jun 07, 2015, 22:39

Shame RooiAAS you horrible lush, I really bring out your green streak. Here's the difference. You posted a picture of me and doctored it, when  I gave no indication I wanted any of my private details revealed.



The decrepit old Liar Tokkie published a road map so the article written by his buddy could be published on here.

But here's the thing, the picture was part of the article. No need to apologize I know you are so disinclined.

As for my decision to leave, I left in 1973...long before the easy street in South Africa ended. I made a professional decision to leave. But I do find your excuse for not leaving, that your children want to stay quite disgusting. If you never had the courage to go, blaming that on your children is reprehensible.

Jun 08, 2015, 00:11

nice achievements mikey, im not surprised at all to be honest, :)

and damn, that picture of u reminds me of hesh rabkin from sopranos lolz, :D

Jun 08, 2015, 01:34

 That's a lovely article, Mike. 

You will clearly be missed by a great many people and that counts for a great deal. 

I wish you luck with your move and hope you are very happy in your new home :) 


As for the photo, I don't really enjoy folk " outing " the identity of others if they wish to remain private. However, it is a lovely pic and you are looking perfectly fine for your age, if I may be so bold, Sir ! :D 

Jun 08, 2015, 02:26

 Moz that wasn't classy at all, dropped your standards there mate.


Good work Mike, enjoy the Cape and Newlands!

Jun 08, 2015, 02:27

 What wasn't classy? If you read the other thread that pertains to this,  Liartokkie described the article in a clear case of self promotion. Deddy  found the article as did I, but deddy omitted the accompanying photograph, which I corrected. Obviously Tokkie had no problem with this picture being found as he explicitly approved the posting of the article which contained the photograph.


The fact that he has boobs,no hair and his office or home is over a petrol station is unfortunate but undeniable. But clearly Tokkie has no problem with the look...he directed us there.


Jun 08, 2015, 03:00

 


Mr Municipality leaves a legacy

'Mr Municipality' Tokkie Saayman served the Dolphin Coast for more than 20 years.
'Mr Municipality' Tokkie Saayman served the Dolphin Coast for more than 20 years.

Retired municipal senior administrator of over 20 years, Tokkie Saayman is ending his long tenure on the North Coast to relocate to the Cape to be closer to his family.

Currently living in Tinley Manor, Saayman is excited for the move, but reflective on his many years spent living and working here.

One of Saayman’s main roles at the municipality was rural development, with his first big project for Ballito municipality being the settlement of Groutville in 1983.

“Groutville became one of our headaches – it was a free-for-all with no services whatsoever,” said Saayman.

According to Saayman, issues of poverty and crime plagued the settlement and his experience in Groutville later extended into Nkobongo where social development was also desperately needed.

“There were no roads, there was no water – absolutely nothing. So we worked 12 hours a day and seven days a week.”

One of the biggest problems, said Saayman, was that in order to build the roads they had to remove some of the shacks and were left with the issue of where to put them. With 700 families living five people to one shack in Nkobongo at the time, the plan was to build 1 200 new units for residents of the township, but the demand for housing was somewhat underestimated by the municipality.

“The problem was that even 2 000 units would have been too few,” said Saayman, as many more people than initially anticipated flocked from surrounding areas to secure a new home for themselves.

Saayman then secured R150 000 to build a water pipeline from Shaka’s Head to Nkobongo as residents of both townships had no access to clean water.

“The people would collect their drinking water from puddles on the tar roads, so we just had to provide them with running water.”

In addition to these projects, he secured a R1.5m investment from Bruce Hullett over a cup of coffee to develop 28 hectares of land next to the existing Shaka’s Head township. Such a feat came to characterise Saayman’s friendly but firm ‘no-nonsense’ approach to town planning and township development as defined by his uncanny ability to secure funds from a reluctant provincial government.

As an individual who has not only witnessed the North Coast’s growth over the last two decades, but as someone who has participated in it, Saayman said Ballito’s continuing expansion is a good thing, but must be done with care.

“Economic development must always have an objective, it must ensure that the environment is not abused and must also accommodate as many employment opportunities as possible”.

Affectionately known as ‘Mr Municipality’, Saayman went on to say that in 1986 there were only two small stores in Ballito and he has enjoyed playing a role in its growth.

“The key to success is to build and strengthen relationships between all people, both rich and poor and as long as the municipality commits to this, Ballito could have a very bright future.”

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Graham Barclay
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Jun 08, 2015, 03:06

That's the article rereferenced by Tokkie, no solicited by Tokkie in this interchange:

 

 

I am rather saddened by my departure.   When the owner and editor of the North Coast Courier heard that I am leaving he sent a reporter to me to write a report on the issue.  His one sentence started - "Affectionately known as 'Mr Municipality' ....". says Liartokkie. Which leads to this interchange:

 

 

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June 07, 2015, 18:52:33
 Mike I've found the article on the internet, do you mind if I post it? Very good read and very impressive achievements! 


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June 07, 2015, 19:01:58
APD 

No problem - I have no objection to it being put on here but did not want to do it myself - so you are welcome to do it.   

Jun 08, 2015, 03:20

 So Tokkie approved the image....case closed.

Jun 08, 2015, 04:07

 As stated by referring to the article in the paper I just gave my true feelings about the fact that after reading about my departure - a number of people came to visit me and contacted me about my departure and it saddened me to leave here.  It was even raised in Council by the Speaker - at least that was mentioned to me by one of the Councillors.  


I never thought that somebody would google the article and when APD did that and asked if he could put it on this site I could find no reason to ask him not to. 

I do not mind the photo either - I am 73 years old and never made a secret of that so what does a 73 year old look like?   What is important is that a person should adjust  his thinking and keep up to date with what is happening and especially so in the game we all love.     

Jun 08, 2015, 04:17

 Mozart


Fact is the paper asked me for a photo and I said I had none to provide to them.  When they phoned me again I said I was in Ballito and would go to their office for the relevant purpose.  

My house is more than 20 kms away from their office - which is situated next to a petrol station.  So the photo was taken at their office - not at the house I recently sold.

       

Jun 08, 2015, 04:30

That's fine Tokkie....I'll take you at your word. My main objective was simply to point out I posted no information  that wasn't in the article you wanted posted. 

Jun 08, 2015, 04:32

 Moz you're trying to justify an unnecessary cheap shot, need I go any further? Morals alone should have stopped you from slandering another persons appearance and rather than acknowledging the good deeds / accomplishments of a fellow poster you try to insult him. You could have even just ignored this post. If you're not man enough to admit you've done wrong then you're of low stock. 

Jun 08, 2015, 04:43

I'm not trying to justify anything Shezza, I am simply pointing out the photo was in he article. Mike has called Frans a fat slob, Matfield feeble, de Jongh weak. The irony is palpable now we can see the body behind the words.



Jun 08, 2015, 04:59

 Mozart


I did not look like this when I was in my 20's or 30's - and the fact is that I am not a professional rugby player like the three mentioned are.   So really there is no need to make remarks on the issue in the nasty manner you did.    


Jun 08, 2015, 05:09

The Internet allows chaps like you to attack sports figures on a personal basis.....Jake is a snake, Victor a selfish has been, Frans an indulgent fat man.  How does it feel?

Jun 08, 2015, 05:25

Mozart


I never called Jake White - what you ascribe as being done by me.  I may not like his coaching and that is an opinion.  What I think of players is something that everyone is entitled to do - you too.

You mentioned 2 players - whose performances I have criticized - so that is an opinion as well.  However, what I said about players is mild compared to what you come up with.  The list of players I criticize is relevantly minor to the long list of players you belittle on a constant basis.   

Those living in glass houses should not throw stones and the worst thrower of stones in this case is none other than you.        

Jun 08, 2015, 06:12

Criticized is one thing....constant lies are another.

 

Here is an example, you said Matfield only called one lineout on himself and lost that one....in fact he won three lineouts in the game.

 

 

Here is another you said Vorster beat de Jongh twice, de Jongh missed no tackles in the game.

 

 

Lies are not opinions they are lies.

 

As for our spat you have called me a liar many times without once being able to prove it.....a dofdoos, a snake etc etc.

 

I really dont care. But when I look at your image....an image you astonishingly wanted us to see....and I find an out of shape old slob....it's fair game. And unlike you, the camera doesn't lie.

Jun 08, 2015, 06:36

 Mozart: I was disappointed to see on this thread that your remedial class on how to congratulate someone were not effective in the long run:ermm: This is a case where a simple "congratulations" would fit perfectly.

Jun 08, 2015, 09:34

This thread demonstrates very clearly that ou Maaik is a gentleman while Moffie is a jumped up and boorish oaf with absolutely no class or breeding.

Moffie can squirm and squeal all he likes but it's blatantly obvious that he's taking this opportunity for a cheap shot at ou Maaik. Only an idiot (or an obsequious and fawning Gimp) could mistake the tone of Moffie's comments on this thread for anything other than gloating and bullying with a large portion of jealousy . . . all because ou Maaik is a well-respected and dignified member of his community while Moffie is clearly loathed by everyone he ever encounters in real life and is probably despised by his own family.

The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven. Some years ago Moffie was so desperate to prove to posters that he was supposedly this big success in life that he put up photos of his house and cars and the names of the companies he worked for so it was very easy to Google his real name and his picture. The sputtering self-righteous indignation when Moffie's name and picture were put up had to be seen to be believed . . . but it's not a problem for Moffie when the boot is on the other foot.

Disgraceful behaviour from a common, ostentatious and tacky little man who cannot bear the thought of someone else getting the respect and recognition that he craves so much . . . but only ever receives from a handful of arse-licking Servile Gimps on some meaningless message board.

Jun 08, 2015, 09:40

 Well done Mike.

Hats off to you. I am impressed.

Also impressed you had the time to contribute in this forum --> the crazy rugby person in you couldnt keep away aye? :D

Jun 08, 2015, 10:21

 How come rooie can say cunt and I carnt ?

Is Cun.tish  like Orcish ? 
Reminds me of that old Joke beloved of soldiers and shearers 
" Who called the Cook a cu,t ??!!!"
" Who called the Cu.t a Cook ??!! "

Jun 08, 2015, 10:28

 And well done thy good and faithful servant Mikey .

Jun 08, 2015, 10:34

Good work Mike! You look just fine for a man your age, no shame in that. Not that you appear embarrassed or anything. Also, that picture has been stretched and obviously isn't a true representation.


Moz, say your say, but to do the very thing you lambasted others for doing, just makes you look childish. Yes, the photo was on the article, but it was not posted here. You went and made a special effort to look up the article and when you found a picture, you posted it here. What was your intention? Because your own justification "The fact that he has boobs,no hair and his office or home is over a petrol station is unfortunate but undeniable" in this thread, it is obvious you intended the posting to be spiteful! 

Moz, in this case you dropped the ball!     


Jun 08, 2015, 10:40

Wardad, there is a fairly simple way to get past the censorship software but I don't want to take advantage so I've actually just gone and self-censored myself.

Sorry, I'm not usually foul-mouthed but Moffie brings out the worst in me. My bypass method shouldn't be used to swear and I really only use it to say innocent words like document, gay and Scunthorpe without the dreaded "[removed]" message coming up.

I'm not telling how I do it because it'll be abused . . . and to be honest, I quite like being the only one who can say names like David Pocock, Nick Cummins and Tom Sexton!



Jun 08, 2015, 10:48

 Johnny Sexton, surely ? Or is Tom someone I am missing, Rooinek ? ;) 

Jun 08, 2015, 10:48

Wow

 

Talk about a thread turning on it's head 

 

Not exactly how I imagined you Mike, but very well done on what you have done for your country and your fellow man.

 

Then again, I also didn't exactly imagine Mozart would attack you here like he has here, but he did

 

I see no issue at all with mozart posting Mike's picture, as it came with the original article which was alluded to earlier, and was extremely easy for anyone to find.

 

It's the other comments I find very distasteful. 

 

What is so "unfortunate" about having an office over a petrol station?  What if that petrol station was Mike's and it raked in millions every year which he helped the local community with?

 

What if that petrol station was mine and it had manufactured a fantastic life for my family and had helped me put 3 children through university to get degrees like you did mozart................. Some sensible food for thought

 

You didn't drop the ball here mozart...................... you dropped the world cup

Jun 08, 2015, 10:51

I love the pro-homosexual advocate using derogatory homosexual slurs. And the cheek to speak of class or gentlemanly conduct, all the while turning yet another thread into a mud-slinging contest. I implore SS to take him back, we don't need him here!

Now to the photo. Is it classless to post a photo that is accessible to billions of human beings? A photo that is attached to the very article being posted? A photo that the subject of the article had no issue with strangers seeing? Obviously not. But he is accused of having other intentions, ridiculous. But what of the snide that used the posting to start another keyboard warrior battle? Nothing.

Yet another weary day where intellect is overcome by chimp-like schisms.

Jun 08, 2015, 10:51

becs, Tom Sexton is the backup hooker for the Rebels.

Jun 08, 2015, 11:51

 I stand....or sit, as I am at present :)....corrected, Rooinek ! I thought I had heard the name. My Australian relations, who happen to support that lot, would be appalled with me :D



As for the comments about Mike, I said above that I think he looks perfectly fine for his age....and very smiley indeed. It was a lovely article. 
The other comments were just very unpleasant and I totally agree with DA. 
I have never understood the obsession some posters seem to have with what qualifications others have, how they are set financially or where they live. It baffles me. 

People are people. 
And the person in question, Mike, has just had a lovely article written about him.
Clearly he is highly thought of by many and has made a difference to a great many people's lives in a very positive way. 
I think that speaks for itself. 

Jun 08, 2015, 12:47

Well done Mike, great stuff bud....you should be proud.....you are a man of substance, salt of the earth 

Jun 08, 2015, 14:10

 And Mikey my avatar is an actual artists impression of me what was co-opted for some character called Uncle Ruckus ! 

So your lookin alrighty as far as us old geezers go !

Jun 08, 2015, 14:22

WELL DONE Mike...best wishes and happiness in Riversdal...might pop in and see you one day:D

Jun 08, 2015, 14:33

Good points were made here by my friend JW and also by DA, Shezza, Bloo, Becs and of course by Deddy. On reflection you fellows are right. I was caught up in the tit for tat of my spats with Mike. This is a more important bit of information. It speaks to Mike's career and the obvious affection he enjoys in his community. It was small of me not to acknowledge this, and I apologize. Well done Mike and I hope you find as welcoming a scenario in Riversdale as the one you left in Natal.

Jun 08, 2015, 14:41

Good on you mozart 

Jun 08, 2015, 14:44

 Nice one Mozart, good on you mate

Jun 08, 2015, 14:46

 Cool Moz!

Jun 08, 2015, 15:14

 That is the generosity of spirit often lacking around here, Mozart ! 


Riversdale sounds a bit ethereal......is it ?!! 

Jun 08, 2015, 15:45

Moz...respect! 

Jun 08, 2015, 16:07

Well said Mozart, congratulations on fronting up:D 

Jun 08, 2015, 16:25

I see this thread that was originally dedicated to ou Maaik and his achievements has somehow been turned into a "pat Moffie on the back" circle-jerk . . . all because the vitriolic and insecure old fossil finally conceded that he was behaving like a c%#t . . . despite being told so by more than one poster and after denying it several times while arguing vociferously for his right to denigrate and belittle ou Maaik.

The fact remains, the intention of the original posting (I assume) was to congratulate ou Maaik on his achievements and Moffie completely hijacked the thread with his own attention-seeking agenda. He's probably sitting there all smug and self-satisfied right now because you lot are now gushing all over him and everyone's forgotten about ou Maaik and the original post.

Just because Moffie admits to behaving like a complete c%#t doesn't excuse his disgusting behaviour . . . and feeling remorse for behaving like a c&$t (when it finally dawns on you) isn't particularly admirable, he shouldn't have behaved like a total c*#t in the first place.

Jun 08, 2015, 16:54

 No, Rooinek, I was simply giving a credit where it was due. 


As I said all along, I think the article was lovely and Mike must be very proud of his achievements and his legacy. 

I also said there was never any need for the behaviour in the first instance, nor is there ever any need, in my opinion. 

Jun 08, 2015, 17:05

Oh Rooinek

 

Bottle it

 

What a condescending post if ever there was one

 

You lot this.... you people that.........

 

Says the idiot calling someone one of the worst words possible

 

Shut up old timer, it's still about Mike.... you just don't see the wood for the trees

Jun 08, 2015, 17:55

Tell you what, Drivelling Avocado, if I ever want the mealy-mouthed opinion of a tedious and pedantic bore then I'll be sure to put your name up in the topic box . . . until then keep your stupid little trap shut. 


Okay?

Clear enough for you? 

Jun 08, 2015, 18:19

 Well ou maaaaikie you're da MAN:

Such a feat came to characterise Saayman’s friendly but firm ‘no-nonsense’ approach to town planning and township development as defined by his uncanny ability to secure funds from a reluctant provincial government. 

How did he manage to get all these funds one wonders. Hmmmmmmmm

Jun 08, 2015, 18:30

 Ehem rooitwit you cant be serious!  and those who know me know that I don't use foul language easily . 

Jun 08, 2015, 18:35

 Agree Card, the photo was there for all to see.


Moz also is correct. When does a spat start and end etc. Thats the trouble with spats they tend to just go on and on.

I see ou roooitwit getting all self righteously indignant. He is never funner that when he does this Bwahahahahahhahaha 

Anyhow we can all agree, just for the moment of course, that its a hearty well done to ou Maaaikie! hand clapping smiley

Jun 08, 2015, 21:23

Life well spent Mike.


And don't worry, I hear the dad bod is making a comeback. I'm counting on it at least :)

Jun 09, 2015, 07:37

"and those who know me know that I don't use foul language easily"

 

What a perfect excuse, to then display your true colours by posting and using such derogatory and disgusting language 

 

It's all good if you don't do it easily hey Rooi.............it makes it aaaalllllllll better

 

What a complete and utter moron you are Rooinek

Jun 09, 2015, 08:21

 Now Now DA ou rooitwit is not such abad oak. He just doesnt understand his origins. He thinks he is a result of evolution from a rock. Bwahahhaahhahahaha

Jun 09, 2015, 09:45

Beeno: based on the hard-headed bunch on this site I would say there is clear evidence that some have evolved from a rock - & they haven't evolved much from that state either.:P

Jun 09, 2015, 10:23

 Mikey when you get to Riverdale say hi to Archie and Jughead for us thanks !!

Jun 09, 2015, 10:30

That sounds a bit dodgy, Wardad. Personally I'd rather say hi to Betty and Veronica . . . but whatever floats your boat!

Jun 09, 2015, 11:04

 Say Psychotic...not sure where to start with you. I mean you really have some nerve calling someone a Hypocrite, a Liar and of low stock.


Have a look at yourself..you sound bitter, hateful and spiteful. You've been trying to drum up support for months  to get Mozart kicked off the board.....you're that desperate that you've plumbed to a new low with your foul mouth.


Just when it looked liked you had a captive audience it all when pear-shaped for you when Mozart realized the error of his ways and like the dignified person I know him to be, he dutifully apologized. But even that didn't satisfy you, oh no, that only increased the hostility in you when you realized that members who had previously been critical of Mozart now accepted his apology in good faith.


Telling someone he's of low stock, after you unprovoked, repeatedly dragged  my late parents onto this message board and other now defunct boards.


" I never use foul language"......just another example of your hypocrisy.


And as for me being a servile Gimp.....good try Loser, but the truth is that while you were enjoying the benefits of being a white-arse, I, on the contrary was having my most precious black-arse hounded by notorious murderers of your white-arse Security Branch.


Damn right I was servile, servile to the noble cause of equality, freedom and justice for all while you were enjoying the benefits that came with your white pigmentation.


Geez I really don't know what hurts you more, the fact that Mozart has more dignity and class up his asshole than you have in all of your miserable being...or does it hurt you more because your desperate efforts to get him kicked off the board has failed....again!


Have a fat day.

Jun 09, 2015, 11:14

 How to solve a problem called Rooineck:


Jun 09, 2015, 11:33

Wehe . . . look at Dense all puffed up like a bulging-eyed toad!

For starters Dense, I know you're a remarkably stupid little person but I didn't use the term "low stock" on this thread even though you've accused me twice. Go back and see if it was me and when that tiny flicker of light goes off in the dark void inside your enormously thick skull and you realize you got it wrong, you can try to be a man and apologize. We'll see.

Secondly, Moffie's feeble apology came long after he was told he was behaving like a c&%t. It was only after enough people had told him he was behaving like a c#@t than he admitted he was being a c&#t and finally apologized for it. It's good that he (grudgingly) recognizes his disgraceful and childish behaviour but it doesn't excuse it . . . and if you think his constant slandering and belittling of ou Maaik (and Dave before that) is in any way "dignified" then it certainly explains your own low standards and the kind of role models you had growing up.

Thirdly, I didn't drag your late parents anywhere. I'm sure they are still where you left them.

Next, I don't use foul language. If you are going to use my repeated use of the word "c*$t" on this thread which is the exception I apologised in advance for then you're more stupid than I thought . . . and that doesn't seem possible! I don't swear in everyday life and I don't use swear words on the internet. If you have examples to the contrary then put them up. If you don't then add that to your list of apologies that you owe me but are too cowardly and lacking in character to give.

As for you being a Servile Gimp, you are a grovelling, fawning arselicker . . . something you've proved over a long period of time and something that is plain to anyone reading this and other threads where you echo your master and lick his tailpipe clean in the most disgustingly servile and obsequious manner. I'm quite sure I'm not the only poster who is very embarrassed for you. Calling you a Servile Gimp is the really nice way of putting it.

Finally, for all your indignant and racist sputterings and assumptions about my skin pigmentation and what it did for me, I still have an e-mail that was sent to me by a SuperSport poster from many years ago who claimed to know you personally, telling me that your "precious black arse" had to run away to Australia very quickly after it was discovered that you were acting as a spy for the apartheid government and selling your own community members out to the apartheid police.

Now do us all a favour and shut your trap, you sanctimonious and brown-nosed little suck-up . . . I don't have much time for low-class losers like you.

Jun 09, 2015, 11:44

 "Finally, for all your indignant and racist sputterings and assumptions about my skin pigmentation and what it did for me, I still have an e-mail that was sent to me by a SuperSport poster from many years ago who claimed to know you personally, telling me that your "precious black arse" had to run away to Australia very quickly after it was discovered that you were acting as a spy for the apartheid government and selling your own community members out to the apartheid police."



Post that email......I bet you won't because you're a barefaced Liar.



You are nothing but scum!



Jun 09, 2015, 11:47

LeTwat, my advice would be to first learn how to spell my name.

LMAO!

Did you photograph that in your fridge?

Jun 09, 2015, 11:51

Nothing but what, Dense? Did your foul-mouthed expletive get blocked by the censor again? Oh dear . . .

LMAO!

I think you've asked me to put up that e-mail before and I explained to you that I'm not a sell-out like you and if someone sends me something in confidence then I won't divulge my sources. I know you don't understand concepts like integrity and trust but that's just the way I am.

I'm afraid you're just going to have to take my word for it.

Jun 09, 2015, 11:51

 Na Rooie already got Betty and Veronica sussed ,just wanna make sure Archie and his sidekick are elsewheres engaged as it were .

Moose looks like a good Tight-head tho"

Jun 09, 2015, 11:52

I am not going to comment the actual argument here, but I'll say this, Rooi, you have a fantastic grasp of the English language! If you have not done so already, and before you get too old and senile, you should write a book, column or something! I don't always agree with things you have said, but I certainly love observing your crafty way of saying them! 

Jun 09, 2015, 11:52

And...... therein lies today's lesson in life.

 

Please remember people......... to teach your kids this profound Rooinek discipline in life

 

If you apologize before you do anything wrong......... it makes it perfectly fine to do it 

 

No wonder this idiot makes so many enemies 

Jun 09, 2015, 11:57

Why thank you bluebok!

Drivelling Avocado, please go back and re-read my June 08, 2015, 17:55:25 post on this thread and get someone to help you with the big words if your brain starts to hurt. Thanks.

Jun 09, 2015, 11:58

I first met Rooinek about 10 years ago.

 

He got pissed out of his mind, passed out and wet his pants in the process.

 

You see.... Rooi has a big drinking problem 

 

In fact, I took a picture of him passed out back then which I still have somewhere, it's hilarious

Jun 09, 2015, 12:00

Rooinek

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2714
RE: Mr Municipality leaves a legacy (Mike)
June 09, 2015, 11:33:30                             
Next, I don't use foul language. If you are going to use my repeated use of the word "c*$t" on this thread which is the exception I apologised in advance for then you're more stupid than I thought

 

Hahaha, ok

 

 

Jun 09, 2015, 12:01

That was 10 years ago? I thought that was last night!

Jun 09, 2015, 12:04

 "I'm afraid you're just going to have to take my word for it."




Jun 09, 2015, 12:20

 

"In fact, I took a picture of him passed out back then which I still have somewhere, it's hilarious"




Laughing graphics

Jun 09, 2015, 12:22

 So does Vegemite go with that spread lestrat ? 

Strange what you saffas keep on hand for emergencies !
What I want to know is what beandik is insinuating about Mikey and the funding he found for to help his community .
Just another accusation at all and sundry about being "bent "is it ? 
This thread proves the old adage about no good deed going unpunished .
And yes Rooie is quite readable ,even the very naughty bits that cause a wee bit of feather ruffling .

Jun 09, 2015, 12:33

I also remember a thread from years ago where Rooinek said black people make him puke.

 

The hypocrisy stinks 

Jun 09, 2015, 12:46

 "...said black people make him puke."



Doesn't surprise me at all.....it's what I expect from the low life.

Jun 09, 2015, 12:46

 Well he shouldnt eat so many of them then .

Jun 09, 2015, 12:50

"Well he shouldnt eat so many of them then."

LMAO!

Interesting to see what outlandish lies Drivelling Avocado comes up with to try to make his point. So far I'm a hopeless drunk and a hardcore racist. I think Drivelling Avocado's choices say more about himself than anything else.

Jun 09, 2015, 13:00

Well.... if the shoe fits..... 

Jun 09, 2015, 13:06

 "Well.... if the shoe fits..... "



Fits perfectly well as far as I can tell.

Jun 09, 2015, 13:58

The King of Wit and the Prince of Repartee meet at last!

Jun 09, 2015, 14:32

Poor old RooiAAS it was all about getting me. So tell me AAS when you say:

 

 

"By the way, I'm not sure how many of you have seem(sic) relatively recent pictures of ou Maaik and Moffie but ou Maaik is in much better shape . . "

 

 

....what is that recent picture where you judge my shape? Best I know all that has gone public is a head shot that is at least 10 years old. This just shows how brilliant you are, judging a man's shape from a head shot!

 

A loser in life, a lush  and a foul liar.

Jun 09, 2015, 14:49

At least 10 years old? Pffffffffffffhahahahaha! More like 30, old coffin-dodger . . . at least I hope so for your sake . . . or else you've aged unnaturally quickly.

So I'm a foul liar, am I? Would you like to call my bluff? Would you like me to post a much more recent picture of you, old man?

Jun 09, 2015, 14:51

Yes go ahead 

Jun 09, 2015, 14:57

 

Jun 09, 2015, 15:00

Not very big but . . .

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Jun 09, 2015, 15:05

 Err, the thread seems to have wandered off topic:ermm: the gravitational pull of old battles I guess.


Well when CleverMike finally gets back on the internet he will be reassured that the bicker-meter still registers high even in his absence .

Jun 09, 2015, 15:06

So the question remains.....how did you figure out my shape from this photograph you hacked off a site.  This was your evidence....thanks for proving you are a total liar.

 

 

You just can't get me despite all the massive efforts you are clearly making.....for one simple reason, there is nothing to hide.

 

Game, set and match.

Jun 09, 2015, 15:07

This thread went off topic from the very first reply when a certain hateful and self-centred old queen decided to try and make it all about himself.

Jun 09, 2015, 15:08

Hacked off a site? Which site would that be, Moffie and what "hacking" was involved?

Jun 09, 2015, 15:17

I couldn't care less which site RooiAAs. Why not put up your own mug seeing as you are so delighted to post pictures of others....or are you chicken? Come to think of it you could give us a full body shot and go one up.....hahaha.

Jun 09, 2015, 15:18

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

What a ridiculously stupid idiot this Rooinek is

 

mozart called your bluff............. and blew you straight over the cliff with it

 

 

Jun 09, 2015, 15:21

   separated at birth

Jun 09, 2015, 15:26

No thanks, I don't want my picture up on here and I haven't given anyone permission to do so. I'm not that vain or that stupid.

If a picture of your weedy and aged old frame is so important to you I could put one up if you like. Would you like me to do that . . . even if it means I have to include someone else in the pic (a family member maybe?) who may not want their picture put up and hasn't given his or her permission? Hmmm?

Oh and just by the way, Moffie, saying somebody is in better shape than someone else doesn't necessarily mean you have to take it literally and refer to the shape of the person. Ou Maaik looks like a much friendlier and good-looking person than your smug and sneering mugshot.

Jun 09, 2015, 15:38

Then:   The natural born liar speaks

 

"I'm not sure how many of you have seem relatively recent pictures of ou Maaik and Moffie but ou Maaik is in much better shape

 

Now:   After he gets convincingly shown up for the barefaced liar that he is

 

"Oh and just by the way, Moffie, saying somebody is in better shape than someone else doesn't necessarily mean you have to take it literally and refer to the shape of the person. Ou Maaik looks like a much friendlier and good-looking person than your smug and sneering mugshot"

 

You couldn't script this idiot's mistakes

Jun 09, 2015, 15:44

I'm taking my weedy old aged, 8 handicap frame off for a game of golf. And no I don't give you permission to post my family on this Board. You had your shot.

Jun 09, 2015, 15:45

  In the interests of full disclosure I felt obliged to post my photo:P


Jun 09, 2015, 20:39

Pfffffhahahahaha!


So, no permission to post a pic of your pathetically weedy little frame?

LMAO!

Moffie is learning! Bet the pompous old blowhard is wishing he hadn't given me permission for the first photo either!

For the record, Moffie, I didn't say it was a member of your family. What I did say (and I quote) was . . .

"Would you like me to do that . . . even if it means I have to include someone else in the pic (a family member maybe?) who may not want their picture put up and hasn't given his or her permission?"

You don't need to be particularly intelligent to know that I wasn't sure if it was a family member of yours or not . . . but I understand you might have missed the point.

No worries, this will serve as a useful reference the next time you call Dave fat or short or you call ou Maaik old or ugly. You are no oil painting yourself, Moffie . . . and you can be thankful I'm sparing posters a pic of your thin, weedy little stick-insect frame.

LMAO!  

Jun 09, 2015, 21:15

You don't need to be particularly intelligent to know you posted your best shot. If you had something better you would have posted it, unless it  included a family member or possible family member, which would have put you in even lower standing on here than you already occupy.


Just another low chapter in your tawdry history.

Jun 09, 2015, 21:20

Here we go again . . . would you like me to prove that was not my best shot? Are you giving me permission to post something "better"?


Choose your words carefully old man.

Jun 09, 2015, 21:43

I take it from your cowardly silence that you are conceding that I have an even less flattering photo of you that clearly shows what a scrawny little specimen you are but you don't want me to post it because there's someone else in the photo who may not appreciate being pictured on the internet with a complete and utter arsehole like you?


Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!

Smart move Moffie! If it's any consolation, you're wearing some less than flattering track suit pants and you are standing in front of what appears to be a collection of kettles. Do you collect kettles as a hobby, Moffie?

LMAO!

Jun 09, 2015, 21:49

It's turned ugly...a true encouragement and appraisal to a fellow member has become sullied by warped and highly disturbed and twisted personalities and their out of line comments.

Ol Maaik enjoy your move and I personally wish you true happiness and enjoy your retirement. I don't always share your views but you're a nice guy with faults, so are we all. Best of luck pal!

Jun 09, 2015, 22:06

Congrats on a fine innings clevermike.
May the next chapter of your life bring you loads of happiness as you relocate closer to your family.

A big cheers from all of us here! Thanks for contributing so positivly to our land!

We're looking forward to your continued involvement on the RuckersForum.

Yours in rugga
Ed

Jun 09, 2015, 22:08

 Seb: it is just the effect of anonymity, I am sure they are nice blokes really:ermm: CleverMike certainly is anyway & a few off target posts won't change that so no worries.

Jun 09, 2015, 22:11

duplicate

Jun 09, 2015, 23:02

I can't help you sonny boy, you are just going to have to make your own mind up about what to do.

Jun 09, 2015, 23:17

 Crikey you Saffas really dont get along at times eh ?

Not a microcosm of your poor blighted continent is it ?
And Rooie I have a confession ,we was gonna have a Five Way with Betty and Veronica but they were worried cos Jughead wouldnt take off his pointy crown "ouch"

Jun 10, 2015, 00:05

 Well done Mike

Jun 10, 2015, 10:30

Ok Moz and Rooi, lets have it, who has the biggest d!ck?

Jun 10, 2015, 10:37

"Ok Moz and Rooi, lets have it, who has the biggest d!ck?"

You'd have to ask Moffie's wi . . . no, you know what, I'm not going to post the comment I was going to post . . . it's a bit . . . ummmmm . . . below the belt so to speak!

Jun 10, 2015, 10:48

Ag no man Rooi, where is the fun in that? No, don't listen to me, I am just the devil on your shoulder. Good on you! 

Jun 10, 2015, 12:01

 His what Rooi ???!!!! come on man dont leave us in suspenders ! 

His wine-maker ?
His winky measurer ?
His windlass maker ?
His Windhoek Wally Wrangler ???!!!!! 
Whaaaaaaaaat ????!!!!

Jun 10, 2015, 12:20

LMAO!

btw Wardad, about the Riverdale gang-bang we were discussing, you can have Betty and I'll take Veronica. Agreed? I reckon Betty is the nicer person but I suspect Veronica would be a lot more . . . let's just say "adventurous" . . . in the sack!


Jun 10, 2015, 12:44

 Veronica has that bad girl thing going on eh what ! 

Dont mind brunettes at all .

Jun 10, 2015, 12:46

 Besides Veronica has all that luvverly money !

Oh well eager to please blonde it is then .

Jun 10, 2015, 12:53

 How Rooispeck feels after (attempting to use) using big people speak:




Mama must be so proud!

Jun 10, 2015, 12:57

Bit of a fail there from LeTwat! (Surprise surprise!)

Who would mind feeling like that little Moffie-looking chap feels in that picture? Not me. He looks pretty satisfied with life to me.

Jun 10, 2015, 13:27

 That wee laddie has his whole life in front of him, pretty groovy that !

Jun 10, 2015, 13:51

Reading comprehension. It makes all the difference. It's not the first time I have had to educate Rooispeck on the matter, and that after he was recommended for writing! And it speaks of a fail, how cute.


Wardad, I'm certain the little fella is quite happy with life, and good on him. However the picture is not of Rooi, merely representative of how he feels after what he considers to be another successful attack on a human. Not something to be proud of! You see, for over a decade all I have seen from him is a bitter, angry misanthrope whose sole purpose is to vent his dissatisfaction with his own wasted life on others, trying to drag them down until they are as miserable as himself: a rotten alcoholic flooding his own pants. No, the only conclusion I can fathom is that this wretch is an unfortunate amalgamation of cells that pupated in a gutter and was gifted the undeserved capacity for conscious thought. It proceeded to demonstrate a deplorable excess of savage idiocy, a product of having never been brought up, nyet, it was dragged up kicking and screaming by the scruff of its collar. Ende

Jun 10, 2015, 14:03

 Still must be awesome to feel that happy .

Hey I 'm feeling pretty chirpy right now too !
Lifes pretty groovy wot .

Jun 10, 2015, 14:08

Poor little bugger doesn't know he has orthodontics in his immediate future.

Jun 10, 2015, 15:45

Wehe . . . LeTwat trying to pretend he doesn't have copious amounts of egg dribbling down his stupid face!

Priceless!

You can put whatever spin you like on it, LeTwat, that was an epic fail. The pic you put up that was supposed to make me feel bad was actually a pic of a very cool little oke and I'm sure there's not a poster on this board who would mind feeling the way he feels or would mind being that age again with that much positive energy about the lifetime he has ahead of him.

FAIL!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

Jun 10, 2015, 21:58

Bloo your question ignores another facet....alcoholism leads to impotence. On that basis alone RooiAas probabably can't  make half mast.

Jun 10, 2015, 23:13

 Sometimes when I wake up early in the morning I feel like an 18 year old .

But besides the fact me missus would kill me where does one find an 18 year old early in the morning ?

Jun 10, 2015, 23:31

So far this thread has 128 posts & 1568 reads, CleverMike is commanding attention even in his absence, lol

Jun 11, 2015, 08:19

Bwahahahaha @ Ward!!! 

Jun 11, 2015, 14:44

 

 ermm Psychotic, comin out to play?....James Bond 007 On Her Majesty's Service checking in....Naaah that's taken...how's about Koos 00M on Broederbond service as an Apartheid Spy checking in? Sounds better huh?



There you go,now how can I assist you,Psychotic  Hmmm?


Before I do...care to post that barefaced lie about me being an Apartheid Spy....actually, I dare you to post it.


Liar.



  



Feb 15, 2016, 19:16

 

mozart
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 14877
RE: Mr Municipality leaves a legacy (Mike)
June 07, 2015, 22:39:07

Shame RooiAAS you horrible lush, I really bring out your green streak. Here's the difference. You posted a picture of me and doctored it, when  I gave no indication I wanted any of my private details revealed.



The decrepit old Liar Tokkie published a road map so the article written by his buddy could be published on here.

But here's the thing, the picture was part of the article. No need to apologize I know you are so disinclined.

As for my decision to leave, I left in 1973...long before the easy street in South Africa ended. I made a professional decision to leave. But I do find your excuse for not leaving, that your children want to stay quite disgusting. If you never had the courage to go, blaming that on your children is reprehensible.


Feb 15, 2016, 20:18

 What is reprehensible is ou maaaikie squealing about non rugby related posts. What a big joke and the joke is on ou maaaikie for sure!!!!

Feb 15, 2016, 20:36

 It was not necessary to go to the lengths people went on this item and all that because I said there was an article in the local newspaper about me leaving the are and moving to the Southern Cape that saddened me.  


So according to you I should not have said anything about a personal issue like I did.  I do not cover the site with political and religious hogwash like you did recently.  

Feb 15, 2016, 20:44

You gave permission for people to go to those lengths....you never for one moment encouraged people to desist. I could reference 100 articles, but I want the privacy. You clearly wanted the publicity. Which is fine. But to suggest  that you were exposed against your will is a lie....you wanted it, badly.

Feb 15, 2016, 20:53

 You are a disgusting piece of junk - I gave APD permission to put the article on site - because there really was nothing controversial in it.   I gave no permission to you to do what you did - which is highly unethical and your lies about what happened iro the article was despicable as well,   You must really have a sick mind to carry on like you do.     

Feb 15, 2016, 21:00

 You gave permission for APD to publish the article, which included the photograph, you old Queen. and I never published anything. Unlike my photo which Rooinek posted which was private, this photo is in the public domain, it has already been published....with a road map to find it, enthusiastically provided by you.


Feb 15, 2016, 21:09

 You are the mist disgusting  thing - I would not call you a human being - ever,  U think that if there is a Moffie on the site it must inevitably be you - sinbce both Rooinek and Dave pointed that out to all members.


   

Feb 15, 2016, 21:17

 Admit one, why dig up this thread? Not your finest act.

Feb 15, 2016, 21:27

 

AgPleezDeddy
 
Status: Bok regular 
Posts: 644
Mr Municipality leaves a legacy (Mike)
June 07, 2015, 19:08:31

Retired municipal senior administrator of over 20 years, Tokkie Saayman is ending his long tenure on the North Coast to relocate to the Cape to be closer to his family.


Sounds a bit like Jake White!:D

Feb 15, 2016, 21:33

 ou maaaike no complaining please you have had many a post about non rugby issues. Including the political ones.


Seems so unneccessary to have to point such obvious things out!

Feb 15, 2016, 21:45

 Ah well, our dear Ed. might yet, in his infinite wisdom, drop the cricket section & all non-sport items can be catered for in a new 'Kakpraat' section .

Apr 03, 2022, 15:01

Please notice how some posters attack and insult Ol'Maaik, (he's getting on now, probably outlive us all still), on the Trumpet, whilst 5 years ago you see a completely different picture. Talk about two faced back stabbers. One wonders their depth and trustworthiness of any thing they are or say...very sad.:(

Apr 03, 2022, 17:38

The Welsh dwarf is a real filthy piece of work...his only redeeming quality was not p!$$ing on Old Maaik all the time, but he's now lost that too...and he can't for the hell of it understand why he is such a sad and unhappy tosser...poor sod, hopefully it twigs some day...nobody deserves to be so miserable...

 
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