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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:16
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08 Jan 2015, 14:16#1

Even funnier than answersingenesis!


Go visit www.conservapedia.com . This is where Baboon-ou is finding all of the answers to life.


Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah!


Wow, these guys don't like Richard Dawkins very much! Here's an extract (which I found under a section called "Humour about Atheism and Evolution")



Essay: Richard Dawkins and peanut butter According to the National Peanut Board, American women and children prefer creamy peanut butter, while most American men prefer chunky peanut butter.[1] Richard Dawkins is rumored to often has intense cravings for creamy peanut butter because he lacks machismo.[2]

Please see: Does Richard Dawkins have machismo? and and Atheism and cowardice and Women's views of Richard Dawkins

Please also see this video of Richard Dawkins gagging on some creamy peanut butter.

(picture obtained Flickr, see License agreement)
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:22
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08 Jan 2015, 14:22#2
The causes of homosexuality are attributable to man's sinful nature, nurture and environment, and personal choice. How important each factor is, though, is an issue that is debated. Those from the most liberal school usually assume a philosophy of determinism, treating homosexuality as an identity or orientation which one has no choice over, and which cannot be changed. This belief is then used to justify acting it out.[1] The contrasting and warranted position is that homosexuality is a choice, that of yielding to ultimately harmful desires, and which choice is partly affected by nurture and environment.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:24
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08 Jan 2015, 14:24#3

History of dinosaurs

Creation science asserts that the biblical account, that dinosaurs were created on day six of creation[5] approximately 6,000 years ago, along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus debunking the Theory of Evolution and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age and creation of the earth.

Creation science posits that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the Garden of Eden) eating only plants[6]; that pairs of each dinosaur kind were taken onto Noah's Ark during the Great Flood and were preserved from drowning[7]; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood[8]; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.[9] At least 300 distinct genera of dinosaur have been identified.[10]

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:30
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08 Jan 2015, 14:30#4

Overrated Sports Stars

The lamestream media like to promote athletes based not on skill, but for liberal reasons. Here's a growing lis t of the most overrated sports stars (notice how none are on the list of Greatest Conservative Sports Stars):

  1. Andre Agassi — his rival Pete Sampras was far better,[1] but Sampras is conservative. Agassi is a big donor to Democrat politicians.
  2. Lance Armstrong — favored by the liberal media because he publicly denied belief in God, he possibly pulled off the biggest scam in the history of sports by "winning" the Tour-de-France seven times with what has been described as "the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen."
  3. David Beckham - retired early to the weak American MLS league and then became a benchwarmer in the French League. His own British 2012 Summer Olympics team did not even want him; his real skill seems to be in catering to the liberal media.
  4. Tom Brady — has relatively weak throwing strength, and hasn't won the big game in many years. But the media over-promote Brady because he says so little of religious value, and prefer him to more Christian players.
  5. Kobe Bryant — was an overhyped bust at the 2012 Summer Olympics; hasn't won a single title without super-coaching by Phil Jackson, who observes that Bryant is not on the high level of Michael Jordan; Bryant's Lakers were pathetic in 2012-2013 while he was playing.
  6. LeBron James — over-promoted by the media to an absurd extent, LeBron has sometimes underachieved in key playoff games. Christian star Kevin Durant, who outscored James (and Kobe Bryant) in the Olympics, and other players are as good or better.
  7. Magic Johnson — lucky enough to play on Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Lakers to win some titles, but was crushed by Michael Jordan and the Bulls; no problem, Magic was a critic of President George H.W. Bush, which thrilled liberals.
    • People look at him, and say, 'Hey, it's OK to get HIV because I'm living with it.' That is the wrong message. [2]
  8. Peyton Manning — a quarterback who won only one NFL championship, despite being voted by the media and others to be NFL MVP 4 times, AFC Player of the Year 6 times, and Pro Bowler 11 times. The liberal media treated him like the Second Coming of Christ in order to oust conservative Tim Tebow from his leadership position in the swing state of Colorado prior to the Presidential Election 2012. After replacing Tebow, Manning eventually caused a humiliatingly early exit for the Broncos from the 2013 playoffs by throwing two big interceptions, and was even worse in a humiliating Super Bowl loss in 2014.
  9. Steve Nash — an outspoken liberal who supported Obama, Nash was chosen twice by the lamestream media as the NBA MVP despite never leading his team to even an NBA Finals. Even worse, the former coach of Nash was then hired by the Lakers in late 2012, rather than a far better coach who was available.
  10. Mark Sanchez — the New York Jets quarterback is being touted as the team's best QB over conservative Christian Tim Tebow despite falling apart at the end of the 2011–12 season and continuing to perform poorly in the 2012-2013 season. When Tebow came to the Jets, liberals championed the former USC star as the superior player despite his mediocre play throughout his career. As a result, Tebow was forced out of the Jets team and released at the end of the 2012-13 season.
  11. Tiger Woods — hasn't won a major golf tournament in more than six years, and yet he's still the only one liberals want to talk about while reporting on tournaments - even when he's not even playing, as in the 2014 Masters.
  12. Danica Patrick - has won a single race in the Indy Car series, but has yet to win a race in either the NASCAR Sprint Cup or Nationwide series, finishing no higher than fourth, although ESPN promotes her first and foremost when showing highlights of the NASCAR races in which she participates. The lamestream media adores her for her participation in controversial GoDaddy television advertisements.
  13. Wayne Rooney - burst onto the scene as a 16 year old and called "The English Pele." 10 years on and he has still failed to fulfill his potential, especially at international level, and still behaves like a childish immature 16 year old.
  14. Cristiano Ronaldo - his spectacular talents have been ruined by his self-obsession, vanity and cravings of celebrity. He is now officially "sad", despite being one of the luckiest men alive.
  15. Jason Collins- saw constant media coverage over him for being gay even though he isn't even that good at basketball.
  16. Michael Sam- was heavenly promoted by the media for being gay despite not being a first round draft pick and getting cut from the Rams before the start of the season.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:51
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08 Jan 2015, 14:51#5
Wow imagine being that narrow minded to believe that homosexuality is a choice......about sums the se idiots up 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:52
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08 Jan 2015, 14:52#6
Homosexuality is mostly the result of childhood experiences; in most cases the result of  a neglectful of emotionally disruptive father figure. That is very, very common. There is certainly no such thing as genetics, for natural selection would weed out the non-producers, as homosexual couples are. That's evolution: the struggle to assert one's own genes over other competitors. So evolution is not in favour of homosexuality. I recall in 2005 how many straight teens became gay through the promotion of bisexuality. It became a trend, not a predetermined sexual preference. There are so many studies out there, I couldn't even go through half of them. Research, it makes all the difference Rooibek. Lets put it this way, homosexuality is no more predetermined than paedophelia. And our culture is so much down the gutter that it's breaking that "barrier" down too!



As per dinosaurs not being with early man?









There is so much more it's not even funny. Here's Noah's ark found by a Chinese led team.



If you want to know what evolution is really about. Look no further than the luciferian trans-humanism movement. Yes, that's the not so secret truth to evolution. You will have to accept this global religion Rooibek, or die. That's the funniest thing of all, you have no idea what you really believe, or where that belief is leading to.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Jan 2015, 14:54
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08 Jan 2015, 14:54#7
Lestat trust you to come up with that load of utter shit  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Jan 2015, 15:00
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08 Jan 2015, 15:00#8
 Of course it's rubbish, you disagree

Care to do some research of your own? No? What a surprise.
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stu5Rookie70 posts
08 Jan 2015, 15:09
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08 Jan 2015, 15:09#9
 When does the rugby start?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2015, 15:13
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08 Jan 2015, 15:13#10
LeTwat, I thought only very paranoid and very stupid people believed in transhumanism . . . oh, hang on . . .
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
08 Jan 2015, 15:33
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08 Jan 2015, 15:33#11
How interesting. I always thought that although we had chosen different provincial rugby unions to support that we would all share very similar beliefs in life. Yet another thing this group of rugby 'pen pals' has taught me. I have 'known' some of these contributors since 1996 !

Some of the people that participate here are friends. I have seen their faces, their family's faces, know what they do for a living and know what kind of people they are to some extent at least. Most of them would be welcome in my home despite the fact that I have not met them face to face. I have never met Beeno nor do I know his real name but if you had to ask me to describe him, he most likely would not appreciate the description.

Beeno, you are nuts. I dont know how old you are, what you look like or how you live your life but you are a f#cking lunatic. Your raving statements about winning (with copy and paste articles written by some apparent alpha and omega of BS) or so called opponents 'running for cover' are only slightly less disturbing than your reference to yourself in the third person.

Denny was wrong when he told me you had changed. You are still the stupid, moronic, childish d imwit that you were all those years ago. Grow up ! Funny, I still see you in my minds eye as a fat little coward, having to call on an entire rugby club to be present to have your back when I offered to meet you in Cape Town.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Jan 2015, 15:43
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08 Jan 2015, 15:43#12

I don't need to do research to know that ones sexual orientation has stuff all to do with your upbringing or that is has anything to do with choice. How bloody naïve.

 

You are born gay end of story, just like some people are born with deformities, be it mental or physical.

 

Hell if it was down to choice, there would be no gay people in this world.

 

I have some close gay friends, so no need for me to research the bloody obvious   

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becsPro4,378 posts
08 Jan 2015, 16:19
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08 Jan 2015, 16:19#13
 I too have close homosexual friends....and a male cousin who is homosexual. Quite frankly, I find your comments highly offensive, Lestat. 
As for your comment about homosexuals not reproducing, how stupid is that ? How many male and female homosexuals have children within marriages before they follow the path they truly wish ? And how many homosexuals produce children within their own same sex unions ? With one partner often providing an egg/carrying the child or sperm for a female to do the honours ? 
Have a think about what you have just written. 
It is not only offensive it is also highly inaccurate in the main. 
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
08 Jan 2015, 16:23
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08 Jan 2015, 16:23#14

Beeno Beeno Beeno

 

Remember this everytime before you post something

 

Open your m ind

Before you open your mouth 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
08 Jan 2015, 19:04
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08 Jan 2015, 19:04#15
www.conservapedia.com
This website is created for religious propaganda. Just about all the statistics on the website are incorrect. All the arguments are flawed, not just because the statistics are wrong, but because of blatant disregard for the truth. The author is clever enough to know what they are writing is not correct. 
This is a major brain washing website, and explains the results of what is left of Beeno.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jan 2015, 22:02
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08 Jan 2015, 22:02#16
 Bwahahahahahaha wronhg again you foolish atheists. I was googling why atheists are so  much more subceptible to suicide. There were a number of websites desaling with this topic and I clicked on this. As far as their comments on thsi are concerned and the dispair ateists express they appear to be correct.If you like I could find more comments from all those other websites saying the same things?Atheists are a despairing lot it would seem. Here is an article that may help them:

LONDON, February 25, 2012 — In his book The Gospel in Brief, Leo Tolstoy wrote about a personal crisis he underwent around the age of fifty. It was a crisis that nearly claimed his life:

“Fifty years after my birth, having asked myself and all the wise ones in my circle who I am and what the purpose of my life is, I received the answer that I am an accidental clutter of parts that there is no purpose in life… I fell into despair and wanted to kill myself.”

Tolstoy’s long season of despair was one the great trials of his life. Things became so dire that he stopped going hunting for fear he could not resist the urge to shoot himself while out in the woods.

The root cause of Tolstoy’s anguish could be easily pinpointed – his predicament was brought on by his atheism. It could not have been otherwise, because despair is the inevitable destiny of every clear-thinking person who subscribes to this worldview.

If atheism is true life is devoid of meaning or purpose. We are here for a blip of time and then we die. All we do in our lives – all our efforts and aspirations – are completely meaningless. It does not even matter whether one is a good person or a bad person. Ultimately, it really makes no difference whether you are a Mother Theresa or an Adolf Hitler. They both died and ceased to exist and soon will also everyone whose lives they touched one way or another.

In the end the universe itself will die a thermodynamic death. All the achievements of man – the plays of Shakespeare, the music of Bach, the sculptures of Michelangelo, the discoveries of Newton and Einstein – will have been for naught. The earth will be a block of dead ice floating aimlessly through a cold, burnt-out universe. Everything that man has ever done or accomplished will have been in vain.

There are those who say that even though life has no meaning we should try to snatch as much pleasure during our time on earth as we possibly can. But this a futile effort also, because pleasures – whether of the body or of the mind – are ultimately empty. In fact, people often find that as they grow older the pleasures that had once brought a measure of joy become tedious and unexciting.

King Solomon who as an old man penned the book of Ecclesiastes articulated this truth when he wrote: “All things are wearisome; man is not able to tell it. The eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor is the ear filled with hearing.”

We do not, however, have to go to an ancient Jewish text to read about the frustration that inevitably engulfs a pleasure-orientated life. More recently, a rock star who could freely indulge in every conceivable pleasure sang, “I can’t get no satisfaction.” Whoever says that we can gain some degree of real happiness by pursuing pleasure – whether of carnal, intellectual or aesthetic kind – is simply not telling the truth.

If atheism is true then despair and frustration are our inescapable lot. But the most painful of all is the notion that life has no meaning. To a man who truly grasps the idea that his life is meaningless this realization cannot but become a source of unceasing torment. To a perceptive unbeliever his existence must appear as some cruel cosmic joke that is very hard to bear.

If one is a cheerful atheist, it is only because he has either not thought his worldview through or he deceives himself regarding the inevitable implications of it. When once grasped for what it really is, atheism is nearly impossible to endure. Suicide would, indeed, seem as the most reasonable and logical solution to the meaninglessness of human existence. That’s why Tolstoy wanted to kill himself. He experienced that suicidal urge, because he was an atheist who could see clearly the bleak hopelessness of his position.

After a long and agonizing struggle, Tolstoy finally overcame his despondency by finding transcendence in God. If you, too, happen to be an atheist in despair over the absurdness of life take heart. Your predicament can be easily remedied, since deep down you know that atheism is untrue. Even though you may declare yourself to be an atheist, you certainly do not live like one, because to live consistently in accordance with your profession is simply impossible.

Somewhere in your heart you know that life is not meaningless and that it does matter how we live. You know that there is good and evil and that there is a world of difference between a Mother Theresa and an Adolf Hitler. You know that love excels hate. You know it is better to be a good person than to be a bad one. It is, in fact, very likely that you yourself try every day to be the best person you can be and that you rejoice in your moral progress and regret your failings.

This knowledge and these intuitions are common to all sane men and they show atheism for the lie that it is. Atheism is the product of a stubborn and rebellious heart that is at war with itself. Every day the atheist denies his worldview by his own actions and way of life.

Thankfully, there is a simple solution to this contradiction. You need to stop denying the obvious and start believing what you already know is true. You are God’s creature and you bear his divine stamp all over your being. To become whole, you need to accept and acknowledge Him who is the source of all life, goodness and meaning.

This is what Tolstoy did and his change of mind saved his life and sanity. This is how he described his great decision in his book Confession: “I returned to a belief in God, in moral perfection, and in a tradition transmitting the meaning of life.”

Even though he was already considered the greatest living writer, Tolstoy was not ashamed to confess his mistakes and personal insufficiency before the creator of the universe. We should do no less.


Depart from this f olly all you foolish atheists!!




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jan 2015, 22:18
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08 Jan 2015, 22:18#17
 Sharky54 writesBeeno, you are nuts. I dont know how old you are, what you look like or how you live your life but you are a f#cking lunatic. Your raving statements about winning (with copy and paste articles written by some apparent alpha and omega of BS) or so called opponents 'running for cover' are only slightly less disturbing than your reference to yourself in the third person. 

Denny was wrong when he told me you had changed. You are still the stupid, moronic, childish dimwit that you were all those years ago. Grow up ! Funny, I still see you in my minds eye as a fat little coward, having to call on an entire rugby club to be present to have your back when I offered to meet you in Cape Town. 


Hmm this is the guy I welcomed warmly to the board. Seems he doesnt like his atheitic foolishness being highlighted. I had thought all was well but evidently not.What I recall clealry was you wanted a fight. You initiated it and suggested we meet in a smart hotel in Cape Town. I said we would just do damge to the place and suggested a quiet rugby field. You then chicked out. Has this been smoudering all these years Sharky - thought you were long over it!!  Now you have thought up the excuse that the entire club would be assiting me! Hahhahahahahahahahaha is that the best excuse you can come with after all these years. 
Seeing you are bringing up the past do you rember how you and rooitwit were such close buddies. How you and rooitwit accused Moz of lying about his status and possessions for a couple of years or so. Then one day the truth emmerged. Do you remember how you dropped your pal rooinek like a hot potato and were soon sucking up to Moz as hard as you could. Hahahahahahahahaha I have never in my entire life seen such an about face. Worse still was that you were then attacking your fromer pal rooinek and want to fight him as well.Poor old rooinek was gobsmacked and rightly so.You then met Dr Moz in Cape Town and it was "It was an honour to meet you Sir etc etc etc. 
That was about the funniest thing that has I have ever witnessed on a website. 





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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jan 2015, 22:21
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08 Jan 2015, 22:21#18
 God's word declares homsexuality to be a sin. The vast majority of folk relise this is the case. It really is not right and has very negative consequences for those practising it.Of course those walking in the darkness will approve of this perversion as they do abortion etc. They will inevitably oppose the view God takes.
Well goodnight to all it has been an interesting few days.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jan 2015, 22:23
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08 Jan 2015, 22:23#19
 I have not had time to read all the above posts but please note I visited the website in question for the first time today. These atheists are consistent - consistently wrong.
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becsPro4,378 posts
08 Jan 2015, 22:58
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08 Jan 2015, 22:58#20
 Oh dear, Beeno.I think Sharkie might just be pointing out something about his beliefs to you if he reads these posts...and his response won't be pretty ! You have been duly warned ! 
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
09 Jan 2015, 00:01
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09 Jan 2015, 00:01#21
Beeno, you are the same childish little woes you were 10 years ago. 'Fight' really ? Grown men ?

Are you 10 years old ? From your little emoticons and baha ahahahaha waahahahah he hee he he he on every f#cken post, it certainly sounds like it. Idiot.
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
09 Jan 2015, 00:04
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09 Jan 2015, 00:04#22
becs, he is a real childish little man child. Denny actually invited me to come back here and I am quite sure I can find the e-mail but he said something along the lines that Beeno had gotten much better and was much more mature in his discussions.

Clearly that was a load of BS. Beeno is still 10 years old. Just like he was all those years ago.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2015, 07:58
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09 Jan 2015, 07:58#23

Squirming Beeno

 

Really squ irming here.............................. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Jan 2015, 09:05
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09 Jan 2015, 09:05#24
"I have not had time to read all the above posts but please note I visited the website in question for the first time today."

Well Baboon-ou, many might find that hard to believe because so much of the bible-bashing and right-wing propaganda on Conservapedia is aligned with the blinkered and narrow-minded drivel that you have been spouting on these boards for years, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

It has to be said though, if you did indeed stumble upon Conservapedia, it's pretty obvious that you liked it so much you were literally squealing with joy and excitement when you realised you'd found some kindred spirits. One only has to look on the "Science vs creation science" thread to see your reaction . . . "oh look everyone, this is what they say about you naughty atheists" and then "oh look at this, it says atheists are stupid" and then "yippee, ït says atheists are sad!" followed by some laughable Conservapedia stats to show that atheism was shrinking (when anyone with half a brain knows the opposite is true!).

Look Baboon-ou, I don't blame you for suddenly distancing yourself from Conservapedia now that it's finally dawned on you that it's a website run by religious nutcases who could conceivably be even more stupid than you, but don't think we're going to forget how much you loved it when you first came across it and the fact that you actually copied and pasted several extracts from it thinking you were somehow proving some kind of point against atheists.

LMAO!

I know it's very early days but your Conservapedia copy and pastes are already candidates for funniest posts of the year!
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
09 Jan 2015, 17:30
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09 Jan 2015, 17:30#25
Our alleged creator is so powerful, so almighty that he created the universe and everything in it and that faith in him the size of a mustard seed could literally move mountains but there is one thing this almighty being cant bring to the party - money.

For his churches to exist, he needs us worthless stinking rags of humans to dig into our wallets and put something into the collection basket every Sunday.

Get a grip people ! This is 2015 ! I think I know now which group of people still fall for the 419 scams. The Nigerians only have to look as far as Beeno's conservapedia website for candidates or church on Sundays.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jan 2015, 10:16
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10 Jan 2015, 10:16#26
 What was very childish sharktwit was you loosing a debate and having a meltdown. Then challenging me to a fight and the chickening out.    
I also recall how you dropped your up to then bosum pal rooitwit - for no other reason than you wanted to be pals with Moz when you found out he was worth cultivating!! I have never ever seen such a disgraceful about turn. Worse still you also threatened the bliksem rooitwit as well. As far as I recall  rooitwit accepted the challenge and you chickened out again! Cluck cluck, cluck went the chicken chicken. 
I have offered no opinion re Conservapedia as I am unfamiliar with the site and only visited it once - so wroing again about it being my favourite website - will these halfwits ever get anything correct. I picked up on those posts re suicidal atheists. Sad lot you atheists are and no wonder. You have no hope. You need to change all that.
Nope nobody has to give a cent. God loves a cheerful giver - there is no law you must give. If you cant give cheerfully dont. Its a free offering. Remember that post I made about that poor atheist woman who left atheism becasue she couldny afford it. Ponder that rather.I can assure you sharktwit I dont have to give a cent if I dont want to. Sharkie humans are made in the image of God and thus have great worth. Even you. I mention this as you appear to have a self image issue! 
Sharkie I had hoped you had grown up even a little bit. I welcomed you here warmly and really though you changed but alas the old leopard has not changed its spots.
Stick around and associating with the good folk here may improive the situation!



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jan 2015, 10:39
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10 Jan 2015, 10:39#27
Do atheists sticking to their code beileve humans have worth. Read this:

The Christian Post recently published an article, which was an interview with Trevin Wax, who argued that the deaths of artists like Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse, and Whitney Houston were ultimately brought about via the involvement of Satan in their lives. In making his case, Wax wasn’t saying that these celebrities were Satan worshippers or anything close, but rather that they had bought into and followed Satan’s worldly system; and it was the enemy’s poisons in that system which ultimately led to their premature deaths.

It wasn’t Wax’s argument that gave me pause but rather one of the comments made by one of the hatetheist trolls that consistently man the comment boards of Christian Post. Predictably, the hatetheist mocked anyone who would dare to believe in a personal evil such as Satan, but he went on to say that the death of Houston was “tragic.”

It was? From an atheist’s perspective?

How so? Why would an atheist--who takes the atheistic philosophy seriously--say such a thing?

Now, I understand I may be upsetting some who embrace the atheist worldview with my questions so let me explain why I think the guy’s comment is simply not in keeping with his faith.

Tragedy in Atheism?

If someone wants to define Whitney Houston’s death as “tragic,” then he is going to need a couple of things. First, he’ll need to show that she possessed some innate worth that was marred by the lifestyle that eventually took her life. Second, he must show that the way her life ended was in stark contrast to a far different standard, which instead describes how things ought to be.

Here’s the thing: an atheist who takes his/her faith and philosophy seriously and drives it to its end conclusion will be at a loss to provide an answer for either.( I am finding they have little answers to anything important)

For starters, the atheist cannot look to philosophy for help. The Greek philosopher Epicurus believed humanity was nothing more than atoms, and atoms have no meaning or moral worth.

His partner in crime, Protagoras, believed that man is the measure of all things, which led the famous skeptic Bertrand Russell to say: “This is interpreted as meaning that each man is the measure of all things, and that, when men differ, there is no objective truth in virtue of which one is right and the other wrong.”1 In other words, without a real set of immutable moral standards, you can’t really say things like the way Houston died was “tragic.”(Very logical. Just think of the dorkins rants!)

But it gets worse (It always does with atheists). The atheist philosophers who know their craft will tell you that there is no meaning in life, period. Jean Paul Sartre famously remarked that “man's nothingness forms the foundation of existential thinking.” Man, according to Sartre, “is an empty bubble floating on a sea of nothingness.” (Can you beleive t. No wonder these poor atheists are so miserable!)

With such nihilistic instruction, it’s no surprise that Sartre’s study partner, Albert Camus, begins the section “An Absurd Reasoning” in his work The Myth of Sisyphus: And Other Essays with these words: “There is only one really serious philosophical question, and this is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amount so answering the fundamental question of philosophy.”29(Hence so amy atheist suicides! Appears Conservapeadia was on the right track here)

I could continue to give examples, but suffice it to say that purely naturalistic philosophy is no help in infusing Whitney Houston or anyone else with any moral value or purpose in life. (Some find a little purpose in railing against a God they dont think exists!! Fancy that!!)

But maybe the atheistic scientists can help? Perhaps they can provide humanity with some innate worth or a standard by which to live?

Not if you listen to the top spokesman for atheists, biologist Richard Dawkins: “Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life . . . life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA . . . life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.”3 (Amazingly this foolish atheist spews never ending rants about how wicked God is and how bad Christains are!! He makes moral judgements all the time. His atheism of course has made a fool of him and he doesnt even see it) 

Dawkins isn’t alone in believing there is no purpose to life. Listen to atheistic scientist William Provine describe the naturalist worldview: “When Darwin deduced the theory of natural selection to explain the adaptations in which he had previously seen the handiwork of God, he knew that he was committing cultural murder. He understood immediately that if natural selection explained adaptations, and evolution by descent were true, then the argument from design was dead and all that went with it, namely the existence of a personal god, free will, life after death, immutable moral laws, and ultimate meaning in life.”4

We could also listen to atheist biologist Eric Pianka tell usWe’re no better than bacteria!”5 Stephen Jay Gould described humans origins and their ultimate (non-existent) reference point: “We are here because one odd group of fishes had a peculiar fin anatomy that could transform into legs for terrestrial creatures; because the earth never froze entirely during an ice age; because a small and tenuous species, arising in Africa a quarter of a million years ago, has managed, so far, to survive by hook and by crook. We may yearn for a 'higher' answer--but none exists.”6

Unfortunately, for the true-to-the-faith atheist, Whitney Houston’s demise was not tragic. To classify it as such demands that she possessed intrinsic moral worth, and that there exists in life a way things ought to be. But making such claims implies design, and a creatorless universe has nothing in that department to offer.

Exactly so. Atheism is a terrible thing for anyone to embrace - its like taking poison. Its a lie from the pit. Poor Whitney Houston.. How she must have suffered!! Lets hope our resident atheists are not going to commit suicide. I suppose rugby helps keep their minds off their faith?

Read then the wonderful Christaia perspective.

The Christian Perspective

By contrast, the Christian worldview says that Ms. Houston possessed true moral worth and value because she, like all humans, was created in the image of a purposeful God (God will never commit suicide. He is joy itself!). She is different from pure matter, animals, and every other created thing.

Further, the same God who created her established moral standards that were put in place to ensure that His creation could enjoy life to the fullest and avoid the consequences that come from deviating from those standards (i.e., sin). The writer of Proverbs puts it like this: “The fear (meaning awe and reverence) of the LORD is a fountain of life, that one may avoid the snares of death” (Proverbs 14:27). 

Atheists, along with everyone else, instinctively know right from wrong and good from bad because their nature contains the imprint of God and His moral law (Hence you get dorkins expressing huge indignation about what he things are immoral acts - yet he says there is no such thingas immorality. A more confused postion would be hard to imagine!!). This is why they (like the atheist on Christian Post) unconsciously remark that Whitney Houston’s death was tragic because deep down they believe humans have real moral worth, and that there is a standard by which we should live (100% correct!). Of this fact, Dr. Norman Geisler writes, “In essence, much (if not all) of the value of humanism is derived from the Christian character of its premises or presuppositions. In this moral sense, Western humanisms are often in effect non-theistic Christian cults.”
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Is Whitney Houston’s death a tragedy? Absolutely, but only when it’s viewed within the framework of the Christian worldview.

If the truth be told, everyone’s death is tragic whether they are murdered, die young from a drug overdose, or pass away in their sleep at age 100. The Bible calls death an enemy of humanity, but it’s an enemy that Christ defeated in His resurrection. Personally, I’m so glad that the truth of Christianity proclaims not only Jesus’ victory over death but also His followers triumph as well. (Amen and Amen)

Paul states things this way: “The last enemy that will be abolished is death . . . But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory. “O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 15:2654–57).

I say “amen” to that.

Me too. I say a very BIG AMEN!!

Great Aricle

Website is http://carm.org/looking-at-whitney-houstons-death-through-atheist-eyes

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jan 2015, 10:49
#28
10 Jan 2015, 10:49#28
Thanks Becs but I know the old crocodile from the past. I had hope he had changed for the better but unfortunately it seems he is the same old nasty. When you read the post about Whitneys death you realis e why these atheists are so miserable. Suicide becomes for them a real option out of the pain. Terrible really
Fortunately the bad language filter is still working as he has been ranting along like he did in the old days!  Nothing of substance of course just rants and bluster.He began making an ass of himself re so called climate change. He then got taken to the cleaners by Moz and Blikkies and hopefully he will pipe down. How many blunders can he sustain! 


SH
Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
10 Jan 2015, 20:32
#29
10 Jan 2015, 20:32#29
Go read some more conservapedia dimtwat. More in line with your mental age.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Jan 2015, 22:19
#30
10 Jan 2015, 22:19#30
 Mr. Been,

"the deaths of artists like Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse, and Whitney Houston were ultimately brought about via the involvement of Satan in their lives...  they had bought into and followed Satan’s worldly system; and it was the enemy’s poisons in that system which ultimately led to their premature deaths."

       
though it seems impossible you surpass yourself post after post. ...... incredible
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Jan 2015, 22:33
#31
10 Jan 2015, 22:33#31
 it's been proven (until the moment only in males) that the sexual orientation is genetic, we born been heterosexual or homosexual.

The following physicians:

A. R. Sandersa1a2 c1, E. R. Martina3, G. W. Beechama3, S. Guoa3, K. Dawooda4, G. Riegera5, J. A. Badnera2, E. S. Gershona2, R. S. Krishnappaa6, A. B. Kolundzijaa7, J. Duana1a2, P. V. Gejmana1a2 and J. M. Baileya8


a1 Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute, Evanston, IL, USA

a2 Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, USA

a3 Department of Human Genetics, University of Miami, Miami, FL, USA

a4 Department of Psychology, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA, USA

a5 Department of Psychology, University of Essex, Colchester, England, UK

a6 Department of Psychiatry, Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, Elmhurst, NY, USA

a7 Department of Sociomedical Sciences, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, NY, USA

a8 Department of Psychology, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA


proved it in the larger study made untill the moment published in the

Cambridge Journals (http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9385646&fileId=S0033291714002451)

and which abstract is as follows:


Abstract

Background Findings from family and twin studies support a genetic contribution to the development of sexual orientation in men. However, previous studies have yielded conflicting evidence for linkage to chromosome Xq28.

Method We conducted a genome-wide linkage scan on 409 independent pairs of homosexual brothers (908 analyzed individuals in 384 families), by far the largest study of its kind to date.

Results We identified two regions of linkage: the pericentromeric region on chromosome 8 (maximum two-point LOD = 4.08, maximum multipoint LOD = 2.59), which overlaps with the second strongest region from a previous separate linkage scan of 155 brother pairs; and Xq28 (maximum two-point LOD = 2.99, maximum multipoint LOD = 2.76), which was also implicated in prior research.

Conclusions Results, especially in the context of past studies, support the existence of genes on pericentromeric chromosome 8 and chromosome Xq28 influencing development of male sexual orientation.

(Received April 28 2014)

(Revised September 02 2014)

(Accepted September 07 2014)


So for those God believers this means that God has created the homose#uality and hence from now on they cannot justify their homophoby in their believes, the religion or God.


This also means that assertions like the one made by Lestat:


"Homo[removed]uality is mostly the result of childhood experiences; in most cases the result of  a neglectful of emotionally disruptive father figure."


are pure BS

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jan 2015, 22:37
#32
10 Jan 2015, 22:37#32
Seems you dont understand the point of the post. The article says no atheist can say its tragic, even though it was, given their religions views on the worth of life. Look at what your heroes say about life.No wonder atheists are such a miserable bunch!! I cant think I have ever read such hopless gloomy view of life. It must indeed be terrible to live under a cloud like that. It almost killed Tolstoy but he changed course thankfully.Atheism is very unhealthy. Its a religion of despair as I have shown so clearly by quoting leading figures in the religion.
Beeno as always dealing with the facts and the atheists ranting and blustering away as usual!!
Would anyone want ones son or daughter to marry an atheist - not tha atheists are too keen on marriage.  Imagine having this negative depressed hope less person at your side day by day!!!! A nightmare!



AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Jan 2015, 22:52
#33
10 Jan 2015, 22:52#33
 Do you think that, after reading the first paragraph, I'm going to waste my time reading the whole article?
No, man, with that piece of sh¡t it's more than enough
SH
Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
11 Jan 2015, 00:03
#34
11 Jan 2015, 00:03#34
Or you could be married to the son of a famous pastor. That would be much better....
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Im-okay-then-fatal-jump-20080709
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Jan 2015, 11:33
#35
11 Jan 2015, 11:33#35
So this wanker Beenkop is homophobic as well.

TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
11 Jan 2015, 19:21
#36
11 Jan 2015, 19:21#36
 "I have some close [removed] friends, so no need for me to research the bloody obvious."

"Wow imagine being that narrow minded to believe that homo[removed]uality is a choice......about sums these idiots up "


Uhm.

I have over 40 friends and reasonably close acquaintances that have officially "come out" at some stage in their lives. And let me just confirm for you from what I have observed over a period of 20 years. You have absolutely no clue about this!!!

More than 10 of them are now in straight relationships or marriages and most of those who are married have children and are happier than they have ever been.

From all of them there is only one couple in a "ga.y" marriage. Two other ga.y couples have reasonably stable relationships.

The rest fall around in mostly unstable and abusive relationships that usually don't last very long and there were two suicides.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jan 2015, 10:25
#37
12 Jan 2015, 10:25#37
 Ho  mo sexulaity is a perversion and has been condemned as such but God in both the old and new testament.Truth exactly so. Christ has the power to deliver a perosn from thsi perversion like he can other other perversion. I guy I knew was a gay. He become a Christian and stoppe the practise. Today he is happily married with kids etc. Totally free.
Its is disgusting to see a man kissing a man and waht they get upto in th ebedroom does not bear thinging about!
Trust the dsrkened minds of the atheist to take a contrary view to Gods word and to approve of this perversion. 
I could easily post studdies showing how detrimental a homo s  exual relationship is to the person involved. Just like studdies have shown how unhealthy a word view being an atheist is. Look at the despairing cries of leading atheists I have posted - a more hopeless bunch I have not encountered. Its really terrible. Must be ghastly to be an atheist!!! So angry and hateful!
Snapster are you by any chance a homo? Are you married? By married I mean to a woman - not Adam and Steve etc.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Jan 2015, 10:53
#38
12 Jan 2015, 10:53#38

Well done Beeno

 

These constant posts of yours belittling everyone is doing a very effective job of promoting christianty

 

It's putting across the distinct benefits of converting, to all other non believers

 

You should be their national spokesperson

 

What a joke 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jan 2015, 11:12
#39
12 Jan 2015, 11:12#39
 Sorry DA I know you dont like God's opinion on matters and think you know better but you are of course hopelessly deceived. God loves the hom  ou se  xual but hates his sin. That is actually the general principle. For God so loved the wolrld (And teh sinners therein) that He gave His only Son that whomsoever should believe in Him should have EVERLASTING LIFE.You need to seriously consider all this. Not as a foolish scoffer but as one seeking truth.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jan 2015, 11:20
#40
12 Jan 2015, 11:20#40
rooitwit ol buddy could you cease for a moment from being a lemming and start thinking about things.If you google evidence for a global flood you will find a huge amount of material.Here is a clip by a leading geologist explaing why the evidence for a global flood is OVERWHELMING.I note that its game set and match re the eternal first cause issue and the DAN and simplest cell issue and the fatc that dawinism has no leg to stand on in the light of modern science.Now you can update your thinking on the flood!!!!!!!Please note that as advised the bible says NOTHING ABOUT THE AGE OF THE UNIVERSE, EARTH ETC. iF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THAT READ SEVEN DAYS THAT DIVIDED THE WORLD BY PROF JOHN LENNOX.

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