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Started by Rooinek103 REPLIES2,701 VIEWS· 04 Aug 2019, 10:16
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 10:16
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04 Aug 2019, 10:16#1
At least 20 people have been killed and at least another 23 injured in a shooting in El Paso, Texas.
Looks like the 21 year old killer was another right-wing supremacist intent on doing his own ethnic cleansing. His "manifesto" expresses support for the Christchurch gunman and states that the gun attack which happened inside a Walmart store was a "response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas".

This is what happens when stupid people buy into the hateful anti-migrant rhetoric spewed by a racist buffoon like Bozo.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 10:25
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04 Aug 2019, 10:25#2
This picture was one of the killer's "likes" on Twitter:

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 10:38
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04 Aug 2019, 10:38#3
I can't find the complete manifesto but this is how it begins:
"“In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.” "
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 12:10
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04 Aug 2019, 12:10#4

So Trump is blamed for the shooting of people by a madman - you must have watch ed the CNN program on the shooting and there are in fact rumours that the shooter was from the Antifa movement - sponsored and protected by the Democrats and specializing in violent attacks on people.

The attacker has a Spanish surname and that says a lot as well.   He is obviously a Latino - so why was he targeting a city with 40% of the population being non-Spanish speaking Whites in a suburb where the population is circa 50:50.    

East El Paso is a combination of suburbs catering for middle class and wealthy people and it is also where the University of Texas El Paso campus is  and most of the entertainment areas of the city is situated.

Anyway the shooter is alive and much will be made public about him and what in fact happened.    

As to gun laws the Obama Administration  adopted new and strict gun laws - but those are not properly administered in most of the cities governed by the Democrats and criminal elements go to Mexico to buy guns as well.   A lot of over-border smuggling is associated with guns and drugs 

The USA has a serious problem with illegals anyway.  20% of all murders in the USA are committed by illegal migrants who makes up 7% of the population. 72% of drug crimes are committed by the same category of people.   Not a nice situation when policing is taking a dive especially in cities run by the Democrats.      

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
04 Aug 2019, 13:15
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04 Aug 2019, 13:15#5

Another mass shooting in Dayton Ohio and reports of 9-10 killed. I will never understand America's fascination with guns. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
04 Aug 2019, 13:47
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04 Aug 2019, 13:47#6

I cant understand how someone can kill another person

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 13:55
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04 Aug 2019, 13:55#7

Agree with CF  - animals kill - humans are not supposed to - so we can class human killers in the same category as animals.

  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:19
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04 Aug 2019, 14:19#8
Very early to be jumping to all sort of conclusions especially if they are coming from very fake news and failing CNN!! Poor Rooibozo never will learn he is far too dumb and far too bent.These two points don' t of course fit the narrative:

Crusius posted a manifesto before his shooting spree.

 

In the manifesto he says he chose a gun-free zone as his target for obvious reasons.

Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfill your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers.



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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:29
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04 Aug 2019, 14:29#9
Imagine in the future, weapons will be more portable and destructive. It is worrying that people who do this, could obtain more advanced weapons in the future like bombs etc.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:31
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04 Aug 2019, 14:31#10

Next this killer could well be a demonrat.

Leftists Change Shooter Patrick Crusius’s MyLife Page after Saturday Shooting from Democrat to Republican

Patrick Crusius has a profile on MyLife.com.

 

MyLife is an American information brokerage founded in 2002 as Reunion.com. MyLife gathers personal information through public records and other sources to automatically generate a “MyLife Public Page” for each person, described by MyLife as a “complete Wikipedia-like biography on every American.”

At 2:46 PM today MyLife had this profile for the deranged killer Patrick Crusius.

His original profile at 2:46 said he was a registered Democrat.

At 2:50 PM leftists changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Republican.

At 2:52 his profile was changed again.

His description now says he is a Republican and QAnon member.

Screen shots shown on Gateway Pundit.

Beeno's advice - be very careful as there is a tremendous propaganda war being waged from the far left globalist propaganda machine. They will do anything to bring down Trump.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 14:57
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04 Aug 2019, 14:57#11

This is what happens when stupid people buy into the hateful anti-migrant rhetoric spewed by a racist buffoon like Bozo.

Poor rooibozo in his hate for Trump and the American people, based on no more than his pathetic dislike of Dr Moz no doubt (he is that superficial!), the nutjob forgets a few vital points.

Each year America takes in 1 million LEGAL immigrants. How many countries do that!

Trump wants immigration on merit so immigrants will add value and support American values. Not those who come in illegally via the Cartells. Through the Southern border come in lethal drugs, terrorists, criminals, human traffickers, sex traffickers etc.

These illegals cost a fortune and place a strain on schools housing and health care.

They also depress wages for the most lowly paid American citizens, mostly Blacks and Hispanics. Hence for a long time wages were stagnant.

Trump puts America first hence his rising poll numbers in respect of Blacks and Hispanics.

The demonrats on the other hand care not a fig for the minorities. Their plan is open borders and free health care, schooling and housing etc for illegals. These illegals get better treatment than America citizens!!! This is not going unnoticed!!!

The demonrats are deeply racist. They have done nothing for the Blacks etc. The worst run cities in America are demonrat run rat invested hellholes like Baltimore about which President Trump has been calling out.

The demonrats seek to divide America using identity politics but this is losing its appeal.

Always remember these demonrats are the party of slavery, the Jim Crow laws and the KKK.The Republicans were the ones who fought these things.

The demonrats have lost their minds and all they can do now is bang the race drum. Their policies are insane communist garbage - think Green New Deal and Medicare for All and all these benefits to illegals coupled with open borders. A blueprint to destroy America. They hate law enforcement, the flag and the constitution etc etc.

2020 elections looms. Could the demonrats really crash - factor in the unravelling of the coup attempt etc.





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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 15:01
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04 Aug 2019, 15:01#12

So why do American cling to the guns and the second amendment. The big picture reason is that they will never allow any dictator to take over. The right to bear arms is about remaining a free democratic Republic! Way more than just personnel protection.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2019, 15:45
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04 Aug 2019, 15:45#13
This was another ignorant, brutal and tragic incident. Personally I'm for the banning of all weapons except sporting rifles. And I wouldn't care if sporting rifles went as well. Yes that might rarely deprive somebody of the means to defend themselves, but it will eventually purge concealed weapons from criminal hands. But even that may not have helped in this case. Why do these young men feel they have the right to act out their discontent? Because in my view, they have a self image which is heroic not brutal. We see it with the Isis propaganda, marching in flowing black robes with flags blowing in the wind. Those images come from Isis videos, where do the self images germinate for these young Americans with guns? From the movies mostly is my guess. So many Hollywood movies glorify the lone shooter, his preparations, his weapons, his sacrifice. Make the small mental leap and insert your own, particular deluded cause......and you're ready to go. That doesn't even take into account video games played by 8 year olds, shooting up the enemy for hours every day.....while parents are texting their friends. Guns are an issue, and the constitution was written for a different time.....but you can't have a non violent society in a culture whose entertainment is rooted in violence.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Aug 2019, 15:53
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04 Aug 2019, 15:53#14

Banning the manufacture of guns is an option, with a stronger penalty for possession - with life for the manufacture and distribution of guns.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2019, 17:11
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04 Aug 2019, 17:11#15
There are at least 3 factors involved: 1 The weapon. 2 The cause. 3 The self image. Removing the weapon may help, but weapons can always be found. My opposition to guns stems mainly from tragic accidents and crime, not so much terrorism. The self image, however, is intertwined with the weapon. Guns are seen as cool, so making guns harder to use may help. Crucially though there has to be a cause. And the changes to society gathering pace in the US and Europe which leave the traditional population feeling powerless, is that cause for these fringe groups.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 17:45
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04 Aug 2019, 17:45#16

SB

How do you reconcile open borders with banning of all firearms?   The snuggling of firearms from Mexico  where the cartels operate, will just increase and there are already loonies that go to Mexico  to buy firearms.

The SA Government tried the same stunt - but the fact that multiple farm murders are not a daily occurrence is due to the fact that the farmers do have firearms to protect themselves.  

As to Mozart's comments there are two US TV programs  available on DSTV that runs murder and serious crime stories 24 hours a day.   How does that not create an atmosphere making criminals into heroes in the minds of the criminally insane?

            

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Aug 2019, 17:51
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04 Aug 2019, 17:51#17
Clevermike, it may never be possible. The banning of alcohol created the mafia, so perhaps banning guns could do the same thing
It may work in some countries, but others it is too late. 
If there is a life sentence for the manufacture and distribution - it may work in some countries. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 18:01
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04 Aug 2019, 18:01#18

Beeno

I am sorry - but I think that there was some funny business going on listening to CNN and it is doubtless that the Democrats will do what you allege they did.   

They accuse Trump of being a racist after the Russian Hoax failure and has no counter for the economic boom encountered at present - so they have gone so far left they have left the USA.

When Trump criticized the four dilly congresswomen who repeatedly claimed they hate the USA he was for the umpteenth time accused of racism.   When one of the DP congressmen from Baltimore accused officials of ICE that they are not only incompetent but criminal in their conduct, he referred to Baltimore as an example of a diabolical situation in American cities run by the DP and also in some states lik e California where the middle class are systematically destroyed by the DP Government.   Does that make him a racist?

There is no evidence at all about racism on the part of Trump or his  administration - so like the case of the Russian Hoax lies are a welcome addition to the DP arsenal,                

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 18:26
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04 Aug 2019, 18:26#19
No question guns are a problem in the USA but they're not the cause of tragedies like this.
If some stupid brainwashed redneck with the political beliefs and IQ of Baboon-ou listens to a racist moron like Bozo for long enough then he'll want to go kill the people that Bozo hates because he thinks he's doing his national duty. He'll kill those people with guns, bombs, knives, dynamite or he'll mow them down with his monster truck. 
Guns make it easier to kill multiple people quickly but you still have to have the hatred and the will to go and kill innocent people just because they have a different colour skin or a different belief to you . . . and Bozo inspires that hatred every time he opens his stupid racist mouth.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 18:46
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04 Aug 2019, 18:46#20
And just 13 hours later, there's another mass shooting, this time in Dayton Ohio where 10 people were killed and 27 injured by a lone gunman.
Yet again, the suspect (thankfully killed this time) wasn't a Muslim, he wasn't Hispanic, he wasn't black and he wasn't an illegal migrant, he was a young white American male aged 24.
We know less about Connor Betts than we know about Patrick Crusius but I won't be surprised if this is another hate crime.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 18:58
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04 Aug 2019, 18:58#21

Mike the polls are showing a bump for Trump amongst black voters for his calling out Black Rep Cummings regarding his rat invested crime ridden Baltimore district. Then of course there were the black pastors praising Trump for his calling out Cummings and the demonrats for their disgraceful running of various demonrat controlled cities. The black folk are getting it. They have been suppressed and damaged by the demonrats for many decades and President Trump is unmasking them. Hence the only thing they can do is scream racist at every turn - an ever weakening word.. 

The Russian hoax is dead, blacks are now aware demonrat policies of open borders harm them the most and so we are seeing this walk away from the demonrats.

Saw an hilarious clip of fake news Don Lemon interviewing a highly respected Black Pastor who had been at the White House discussing how Baltimore could be helped. . The anti White fake news CNN race baiter Don Lemon tried to get the Pastor to condemn President Trump as a racist. He tried several times and the Pastor told him Trump was not a racist and had only words of praise for Trump as had so many black folk in Baltimore.. Seeing he was making a fool of himself, Lemon then switched tactics and started to attack the Pastor who easily saw off Lemon who looked a bigger race baiting fool than ever. 

Don Lemon now only gets 500,000 viewers, Sean Hannity gets 3,500,000. Americans are tuning out fake news anti America CNN. Bwahahahahahahaha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 19:04
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04 Aug 2019, 19:04#22

Of course not only is trump being blamed by the elite globalist propaganda machine but also Fox News.

Here however is the clip where Don Lemon interviews the Black Pastor.  Note how he switches tactics when he sees he cannot get the black Pastor to call Trump a racist and to make matter worse the Pastor praises Trump.  Guess the clown felt he had a lot of lost ground to make up. 

Rev. Bill Owens, president of the coalition of African-American pastors, defended President Trump for his attack on the city of Baltimore in an interview Monday night with CNN's Don Lemon. Owens contended Trump's comments about Baltimore should not be considered racist because the president attacks people of all colors.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 19:40
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04 Aug 2019, 19:40#23

Rooinek

I hope it was not Beto O'Rourke who changed the My Life story before he started his attack on Trump.   It is not wise to make such changes  as the registering as a Democrat will be on the voters roll and that would  be difficult to rig.  

As it is the second change was apparently made to get past the latter problem.

I want to ask you a single case where Trump made a racist comment in any of his speeches - example please.    

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 19:51
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04 Aug 2019, 19:51#24

Already poor rooibozo is crashing and burning. He has got it all so wrong so obviously and now to make matters even worse he has been made to look a complete jackass and Trump wins agai n. Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:01
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04 Aug 2019, 20:01#25
Ou Maaik, just the other day we established that you are one of the very few people in the world who is still blissfully unaware of a phenomenon called "Google".
I think it's time for you to join the 21st century.
Click here and you'll be taken to a website where you can type in selected information and get literally thousands of links based on your search. 
Click on it now and type in the words "trump racist" and see how many examples you get. Hope that helps! Let us know how many results you found. I got 413 million.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:11
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04 Aug 2019, 20:11#26

So what do bloggers say about that icon Don Lemon?

Ain’t don lemon married to a white man. According to liberal logic he’s an Uncle Tom. ????737 likes

The pervs here won't like their favourite CNN TV personality being called an uncle Tom!! its so unfair they wail. Everyone knows Baltimore has been a rat invested crime center for decades and its all Trump's fault. The 16 billion dollars the Trump admin have given to sort the place out was only political posturing. Orange man bad grunt, grunt! He is a raaaaaisist! Hahhahahahahahahahaha

I was upset by Don Lemon's demeanor, Tone and line of questioning. Talking down to a man who just wants to help is wrong!

America is blessed to have great leaders like Rev. Owens. I liked watching him make Don Lemon choke on his own false accusations.
Maybe one day soon, people will quit doing interviews with cnn, don lemon is a ASSWIPE CLOWN, he is also is a racist!
Not only is Don Lemon a racist, but he's also a FASCIST!
That was the rudest interview I’ve ever seen lemon needs to be cancelled
I dont let hate into my heart often.....But Don Lemon makes my blood boil!! Despicable Human Being
Mr. Owens your a blessing! Thank you for being a servant of the Lord.
Bravo Rev. Owens! President Trump does not sugar coat! ??????
Hahaha Don Lemon just changed his attacks on this man each time the previous attack didn't work. He thinks he is clever but he really is very far from clever.
He is hella screwed up. Look at his life.??????????He runs down white men when it is convenient.He is married or affair whatever with a white man.??????Do not believe a thing that man rambles.
Don Lemon puttin the HIT on a black man who is in the trenches, REAL LIFE, making a REAL difference with young people. OMG how can cnn can get away with this slanderous piece?This is another reason why I will never vote Democrat again!Please people don't get upset with don lemon , he is helping the Black community leave the stupidity of the left .
On and on it goes oaks poor Don taking a right pasting! No wonder fake news CNN is tanking


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:14
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04 Aug 2019, 20:14#27
"Trump wins again"
Yes, all that winning . . .
Sebring, El Paso, Virginia Beach, White Swan, Gilroy, Thousand Oaks, Pittsburgh . . . win, win, win!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:18
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04 Aug 2019, 20:18#28

hahahahahahaha poor rooitwit still sucking up the propaganda. Suppose you think Trump vs also anti smetic and a nazi etc. Just how stupid are you rooiBOZO! Yes and a Russian asset.

Google Trump is a Russian asset. You will get 13,000,000 hits. How did that work out you dumbass! Bwahhahahahahahahaha how in the world can you be as gullible as rooiBOZO. How much more BS are you going to suck up you hopeless clown!

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:23
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04 Aug 2019, 20:23#29

 Breaking El Paso authorities release photo of Patrick Crusius's accomplice in the mass murder of 20 people at El Pas o Walmart...

#WhiteSupremacistTerrorism



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BrycyPro4,671 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:27
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04 Aug 2019, 20:27#30

...Shocking how the list of Trump inspired terrosist attacks keeps growing and growing....add another one to the list...

8/12/17 - Charlottesville, Pro-Trump Nazi rally - Heather Heyer murdered 11/22/18 - MAGA Bomber, 16 pipe bombs mailed to Democratic leaders  11/27/18 - Pittsburgh Synagogue massacre - 11 DEAD  3/15/18 - New Zealand massacre - 49 DEAD
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:32
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04 Aug 2019, 20:32#32

What I found in one lengthy case refer to anything bar racist comments.  I also think that what is written is basically dishonest.  Trump did not make any racist attacks on anybody bar the Democratic Party in the case of Baltimore other than for maladministration.

Why are the 10 worst administered  cities in the USA all run by Democrats.  Why is the State with the worst living conditions in the USA - California  also run by he Democrats.  Is any attack on those cities and California for maladministration a "racist: attack?         

Let me be more explicit.   Since when is Latinos' a separate race group and the same applies to Muslims.   Muslims outside of Africa  - but including the North Africa fringe are Caucasians.   Publicly attacking Japan and China on economic grounds are not racist.

I could find one reference that may be racist in the 1970's when Trump was a registered Democrat.   Over the last year the so-called racist comments are total nonsense.

Listen Rooinek I never really supported Trump - he is not the type of person I would support = but I am also a fair person.  When Mozart and co go on the rampage against Erasmus and some players I defend them if they are unfairly attacked  Sam applies to Trump.   It is indeed shocking the way Obama and  Clinton engineered the Russian Hoax case based on lies and deception. 

One can say everything is fair in love, war and politics - but blatant lying is not - hence my defense of Trump.          

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:36
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04 Aug 2019, 20:36#33

Would'nt be surprised if one of the squad of congress women Trump is targeting with his dangerous rhetoric gets assasinated next by another.homicidal Trump supporter.....incidently all four of them have a higher popularity rating than Fat Donny.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:45
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04 Aug 2019, 20:45#34

Obvious false flag attacks...and these days, if you believe in law and order and some good old fashion v alues, you are branded a right wing nutter ..well that's BS, it's the radicalization of both the left and the right that's the problem.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:47
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04 Aug 2019, 20:47#35

Brycy you old fruit cake AOC is polling at 22% in her district and Omar at eight %. They are done will lose their seats come 2020.

Meanwhile demonrats admitting they don't have anyone to beat Trump.

So there are 13,000,000 hits on Google re Trump being a Russian asset. Wonder if ou rooiBOZO is questioning whether the racism charges could also be wrong.

Brycy you nutjob all your examples have been debunked. A more absurd list cannot be imagined.

Brycy if you wont read what i post i cant help your abject stupidity. What a MONG!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:50
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04 Aug 2019, 20:50#36

I cannot associate any statements in newspapers as racism and  asked for something constructive to prove racism  not what is written by newspapers opposing Trump/   Is Latinos a separate race?   Are ME Muslims a separate race?   

Anybody who gives the examples in the articles as mentioned are stretching the limits of what "racism" implies beyond anything I have ever seen.   If you support the Republican Party you are a racist according to what is written in the articles Brycy refers to, because you do not the pen nrder and extreme Socialist policies of the DP - really?

There are dangerous fringe groups in every country in the world and to blame specific political leaders for their conduct is BS.    I do not think that responsible Democrats - other than their lunatic fringe is associated with Antifa who is more known for violent baseball attacks on people and is protected by the DP fringe,   They  attack Chinese, Whites and  African Americans - so are they racist as well? .                     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:50
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04 Aug 2019, 20:50#37

I cannot associate any statements in newspapers as racism and  asked for something constructive to prove racism  not what is written by newspapers opposing Trump/   Is Latinos a separate race?   Are ME Muslims a separate race?   

Anybody who gives the examples in the articles as mentioned are stretching the limits of what "racism" implies beyond anything I have ever seen.   If you support the Republican Party you are a racist according to what is written in the articles Brycy refers to, because you do not support open borders and the extreme Socialist policies of the DP - really?

There are dangerous fringe groups in every country in the world and to blame specific political leaders for their conduct is BS.    I do not think that responsible Democrats - other than their lunatic fringe is associated with Antifa who is more known for violent baseball attacks on people and is protected by the DP fringe,   They  attack Chinese, Whites and  African Americans - so are they racist as well?.                     

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 20:54
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04 Aug 2019, 20:54#38
Indeed Brycy. If Ilhan Omar or AOC had to end up with a bullet through her head and a sign saying "Go Home" on the body, Bozo would be culpable . . . just as he's culpable for the El Paso shootings. He might as well have been the one pulling the trigger.
The Trumpanzees won't see it that way though . . . they probably think every Mexican killed is a "win" for them and the fat, racist fool they're so besotted with.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
04 Aug 2019, 21:07
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Aug 2019, 21:21
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