Yes oaks this so often happens. People walk away from God. Things become very ugly and they seek the Lord.
Jesus said I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell will not prevail against her. Nothing can stop this building of the Church
Absolutely nothing.
Christianity is doing very we in these dark days. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot over come it.
Good, God is merciful despite that we do not deserve it. I guarantee you will never be happy, fulfilled and free until you know Christ.
If these Christian's are anything like Beeno and Seb I'll think I'll pass.
The only question when people are organized: what faction moves to the top.
Christianity has a long history by now and many examples of who of them come to the top to apply policies.
The socalled revival will show it again, those christians already accuse their fellow christians of being something else than Christian (marxist, leftist, woke etc)
So, yes, there is no if.
StavAss when you appear before the JUDGEMENT Throne of Christ Beeno and Seb won't help as an excuse.
Nothing in fact will help. You will be judged and will not enter Heaven. Better get over your silly Berleno, Seb phobia oak and seek the Lord while there is yet breath in your lungs. Eternity beckons and coul d come upon you faster than you think.
I don't know if you've actually been to Europe, but Islam is taking over, and the closest thing to Christianity is the New Age Liberal Church. True Christianity is going underground in Europe, as it was in the early Church. It is growing mightily in other areas of the world. Europe on the other hand is ready to reap its reward: absolute destruction.
StavAss when you appear before the JUDGEMENT Throne of Christ Beeno and Seb won't help as an excuse.
Nothing in fact will help. You will be judged and will not enter Heaven. Better get over your silly Berleno, Seb phobia oak and seek the Lord while there is yet breath in your lungs. Eternity beckons and could come upon you faster than you think.
If that day does happen and your god turns out to be the one true god, I'll only have two question for him. Why are you such a fucking cunt and can you give me directions to hell.
I don't know if you've actually been to Europe, but Islam is taking over, and the closest thing to Christianity is the New Age Liberal Church. True Christianity is going underground in Europe, as it was in the early Church. It is growing mightily in other areas of the world. Europe on the other hand is ready to reap its reward: absolute destruction.
I live in Europe and I can say with conviction, your talking absolute manure.
"If that day does happen and your god turns out to be the one true god, I'll only have two question for him. Why are you such a fucking cunt and can you give me directions to hell."
And there it is, the mask fell off.
And there it is, the mask fell off.
Not at all.
I hope the irony of you all people saying that is not completely lost on you.
Nothing is lost on me...you never swear. yet you chose to cal Jusus a C because Beenz got to you...no irony, just unfiltered hate for an idea you don't even believe in...stop bullshitting yourself.
StavAss when you appear before the JUDGEMENT Throne of Christ Beeno and Seb won't help as an excuse.
Nothing in fact will help. You will be judged and will not enter Heaven.Yes funny how they hate the 3rd commandment so much.
Imagine me hating Spiderman..... "Spiderman you SOB" .... HAHA"
He's saying you're too stupid to have a philosophical discussion with.
What discussion.
No matter what, any entity is worth a thing when they contact human kind in one sort of a way.
If any entity exists, people must not bothered unless a contact is made.
The whole post is nothing other than blaming people for assumedly doing what the post does.
Classical liberal move.
Plum is speaking from Isaiah 55v8-9
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD
So, religion is now only philosophy? Or is philosophy only religion?
Some people are able to talk about philosophy without insisting that a God exists.
The sinners must repent and virtue signals at every turn
Thats simply plum trying to convince us he is some sort of superior minded being that is capable of having deep thoughts and we are all brainless minnows compared to him.
Yes, ButtPlug is ever the pseudointellectual.
The only difference is theist claim they know, where as Atheist claim they don't know.
Yes we have our beliefs such as abiogenisis, the big bang but they are only hypothesis based on known facts.
The evidence for evolution is over whelming but that makes no claims one way or the other for a god. For all I know a god used evolution to created the multitude of life forms on this planet.
As to the big bang yes I lean towards that as that is what the science suggests. If they prove that completly wrong through further study I am not going to lose any sleep over it. In fact it would be a great thing as it shows science is always looking for facts not fantasy.
Same if science ever proved there was a creator I would become a believer but that would not make me get down and grovel on my knees to it. If there is a God I doubt it created us just to sooth its ego.
"The problem is that you're all far too weak minded to approach the topic of a potential supreme being in its correct philosophical context "
I don't agree...
In fact quite a while ago, you may remember that I also presented the exact same scenario that you just did here with the Hitler example, where I said that it could be some prelude to some other existence.
I also mentioned that those suffering today could also be a direct result of their horrific actions in some previous life....
There is just too much we don't know, and no one single argument is more correct or believable than the next one, irrespective of how ridiculous it may seem.
Already stated many times, liberals love the strategy known as gallopping.
They do not want to discuss nor debate. So they act the way they do.
Topic: existence of a god creator
Gallop:
the god creator is intelligent (no links between intelligence and creation)
The god creator controls its creation (no link between creation and control over creation)
The god creator makes suffering on purpose
The god creator is meant to be judged by its creation
And more
All of those unrelated to the topic of the existence of a god creator.
Yet liberals picture themselves as the best thing that happened to humanity.
also mentioned that those suffering today could also be a direct result of their horrific actions in some previous life....
What a strange statement for people who can not even accept consequences of actions that happened during their lifetime.
DA, I'm talking about the people arguing against religion and saying that their arguments are shallow, tired, and most easily brushed aside.
I'm not even religious and I see problem after problem with the arguments against religion.
Not once, have I seen someone here do the reasonable thing and ask a guy like Draad what his religion means to him and what he feels he gets out of it.
And if one is that anti-religious... wouldn't that be the first thing you do?
I mean, if I wanna say that cars are useless, i should probably first find out if they are useful to people.
Not once, have I seen someone here do the reasonable thing and ask a guy like Draad what his religion means to him and what he feels he gets out of it.
You think that people who argue against religion don't think people who are religious get something out of it?
I suspect most people who argue against religion do so because they don't see any evidence to support the fundamental tenants of the various religions (such as their is a god who created the universe for example) and that while many people do indeed get something out religion and many have been motivated to do good things by religion that overall religion causes more negatives than benefits.
So despite the fact that religion was the organizing force for 99.99999% of human history, you think it has caused more harm than good.
The dissociation between religion and something else is recent (another oddity that Christians make that remark as supposedly secularist societies are one of their forte)
So yes, nothing but a baseless claim.
And yet the ideas attributed to god in the Bible are meant to be accessible.
Already stated, one of the big achievements by Abrahamic religions: the heist on gods.
No other god exist but theirs so any god is theirs.
They apply it in a blasphemous way: science can not prove no god exists therefore gods exist therefore it is the one god.
Years ago, out of curiosity, myths of creation of the world were compiled.
Christians are used to claiming that theirs had to be put in simple terms which may explain inaccuracies etc
Two myths of creation were found that fit way better the current scientific knowledge, one from Australia and another, if memory serves well, from South Africa.
Both could have been a simplified version of the current knowledge about that stuff.
The Christian myth is not even the best one.
So despite the fact that religion was the organizing force for 99.99999% of human history, you think it has caused more harm than good.
Where did I say I think that?
Those nuns must really have given you a hard time,
Only had one nun as a teacher and a few priests. Never had an issue with them.
@ButtPlug,
I have news for you, a revelation... You are religious....
You are a fence sitter - so much so that you don't even know your own position on anything.
If you only argue one side, it is obvious where your "true" position lies.