Why's that, Bob?
Because its the same tired old baseless conspiracy, that's repeated ad nauseum by people too clueless to realize their parroting Kremlin narratives.
Because my suggestion would have resulted in far fewer lives being lost and maybe even less territory to boot?
Which ridiculous suggestion was that, Ukraine, NATO and the west capitulate to all of Russia's demands or that the west spam Russian's with Nord VPN subscriptions.
Seems a strange position to be in. One where you slate Mike, because he's supporting Russia and their actions have resulted in dead people, and then also slate me when my suggestion would have resulted in less dead people than the solution you bought into.
Well lets say Ukraine and the west had agreed to Russia's pre war demands.
That would have meant the permanent loss of Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea. The permanent loss of the most resource rich area of Ukraine.
In addition its economic prospects would have been further severely diminished as its ability to integrates it economy with the wests economy would be restrained by Russia.
Denazification, which was simply code for a regime change in Kyiv to one friendly to Russia and anti western.
Demilitarization, would have meant what remained of an nominally independent Ukraine would be completely unable to defend itself if Russia decided at some point in the future to invade the rest of Ukraine. They would have to rely on the word of regime that's time again proven itself to be untrust worthy.
Russia would gain easier access to Moldova, allowing further coercive methods to be applied against that country
NATO withdrawing to its 1997 borders, exposing 14 countries to potential future Russia aggression and coercion.
A message sent around the world that military aggression and bullying will not be confronted by allowed, further encouraging like minded regimes to do the same.
You are utterly delusional if you think Russia's demands where ever going to be met. Russia made those demands knowing they could never be met, they where never made in good faith, they where made as an excuse to go to war.
I guess the official narrative is perfectly in that Goldilocks zone, right? The one you bought into is just right and everything else is doos worthy.
Nice strawman.
Please remember that when Ukraine eventually do get a worse deal because they didn't negotiate at outset, it's not what I wanted...but rather what I told you would happen. So save your virtue signalling.
NATO withdrawing back to its 1997 borders, it not something Ukraine could have negotiated for, even if it wanted too, aside from which only a fool would believe Russia would honour any negotiated settlement in the long run, all its reason's to attack Ukraine where made up bullshit in the first place.
Just like you guys bought the Russia collusion hoax...it was just right too.
...and just like you bought the obvious BS of Covid coming from a wet market.
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Honestly, I'd start getting my brainwashing, i mean news, somewhere else.
Next time something makes you wanna virtue signal, stop, suck some air into your lungs, and consider if what you are being few is accurate.
Blah blah virtue signal, blah blah virtue signal, blah blah virtue signal.