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Plum, Big Tech and Trump’s EO

Started by Ceradyne23 REPLIES716 VIEWS· 31 May 2020, 16:16
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
31 May 2020, 16:16
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31 May 2020, 16:16#1

I cannot the title of the thread where you challenged Sharkbok on Google, Twitter, etc. 


I am a subscriber of a YouTube channel called Viva Frei. He is a Canadian Lawyer. He had a clip where he had a chat with an American lawyer, Robert Barnes, where they discussed the Flynn case. 

I decided to check out Barnes’ channel and found that he posted a clip on the 29th on his own channel, on the Twitter/big tech executive order subject, as well as other legal issues in the news. 

Before I post the clips, some info from Barnes’ Wikipedia page:

In 1992, he became the personal attorney of Hillary Clinton (per her memoir) and assisted the Clintons when their aide Vince Fostercommitted suicide.[3] After criticism arose as to whether it was appropriate for Barnett to represent so many newscasters and journalists who were reporting on the White House while also serving as lawyer to the Clintons; Barnett resigned from representing the Clintons turning his work over to fellow Williams, Connolly & Califano attorney David E. Kendall.[3] He represented George Stephanopoulos in an incriminating book about the Clintons.[3] In 1997, after his wife resigned from CBS, he went back to representing the Clintons, and helped to negotiate the sale of their post-presidential memoirs; and helped former Clinton officials to secure new employment (Donna Shalala as president of the University of Miami and Lawrence Summers as president of Harvard University.[3] 

Barnes’ clip on Twitter:



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
31 May 2020, 16:22
#2
31 May 2020, 16:22#2

The clip on the Flynn case:


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 May 2020, 19:34
#3
31 May 2020, 19:34#3

Man!!!!!!!

This website. Again, I type a long reply and it just vanishes.


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
31 May 2020, 19:53
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31 May 2020, 19:53#4

I have learned my lesson. I do it on a note and then copy and paste on here. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
31 May 2020, 23:35
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31 May 2020, 23:35#5

Trump is actually a very friendly and giving President. 

Twitter wanted everybody to know that they are not just a little old public speaking platform. So he granted them their wish and gave them the elevated status of public media outlet. With all the normal privileges and accompanying responsibilities and liabilities of course. 

Antifa wanted to show their real muscle and wanted everybody to know that they are not just your normal run of the mill little social group. So Trump said: “I’m cool with that. I’ll upgrade your status to that of dangerous terrorist organisation and we will happily be treating you accordingly”. 

All in a matter of a few days. 

Nice man, good old Donny. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Jun 2020, 01:40
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01 Jun 2020, 01:40#6

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Jun 2020, 09:58
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01 Jun 2020, 09:58#7

Try again...

Barr says the days of big platforms behaving like publishers but being regulated like platforms is over.

It's a knock for Facebook and friends. We'll know how big a one by the amount of change we see on their platforms. 

Perhaps they'll adopt Reddit like tools. The community up or downvotes. After too many downvotes the post his hidden. Therefore, self-censoring and not controlled by the platform. Looking at how polarised Reddit has turned out, it doesn't seem to be a good solution. Gosh that place can be a cesspool. It just clumps the worst people together.

Anyhow, Trump and Barr set JD up. That's my take. They had them docs ready to go. 

I don't think Rooi understands what a giant kick in the dick this is for these platforms. Rooi, like JD, was playing checkers while uncles Donnie and Bill were playing 4D chess.

Here is a challenge. Go out and find any centrist channel on youtube that doesn't ultimately agree with this EO. You won't. Every single last one of ALL the big names supports this. And they have many viewers. Swathes of the democrat party are also secretly behind this. They see the protection it affords them. 

And it's not a new thing. Content creators, businesses and political personalities, from both sides, have been calling for this distinction to finally be cleared up, for years. You'll find hundreds of articles on this topic and many date back to the better part of a decade. It's indeed something I've known about for some time.

When Snarkie equated newspapers to social media platforms previously, I didn't bother bringing this up as it'd have been a waste of time. I believe his reasoning was something like, "Well if newspapers and other media can be biased why can't social media platforms?" 

Shark, the coincidental sequence of your education is quite remarkable.

The move benefits both sides. Pity they had to embarrass the toddler JD but I'm sure his nose-ring comforts him. 

What's the real score RooiVis, what's the real score?


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Jun 2020, 10:19
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01 Jun 2020, 10:19#8
"What's the real score RooiVis, what's the real score?"
Plumchum, I know you're a bit dim and rather helpless but you never have to ask me the score and you can always go see for yourself.
As long as the two fact-check tags are still there and the hidden tweet remains hidden, it's Twitter 3, Bozo 0.
I'll update the score as and when Bozo comes good on his boasts that he won't allow these sanctions on his tweets (or if Twitter tag/hide more of his tweets). So far he's had zero success.
Understand?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Jun 2020, 10:25
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01 Jun 2020, 10:25#9

“  Anyhow, Trump and Barr set JD up. That's my take. They had them docs ready to go. “

What I been thinking as well. I think they set up the trap and laid out the bread crumbs, probably having a giggle, while wondering about what the chances were of JD not being the first clod to walk straight into the trap. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Jun 2020, 10:31
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01 Jun 2020, 10:31#10

“ As long as the two fact-check tags are still there and the hidden tweet remains hidden, it's Twitter 3, Bozo 0. “

Hahaha. Ou Rooies still believes that Trump’s main aim in signing the EO was an effort to have the tags removed and the hidden tweet restored. 

Plonker. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Jun 2020, 10:54
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01 Jun 2020, 10:54#11


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Jun 2020, 11:20
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01 Jun 2020, 11:20#12

Redneck has lost his way.

I'm not sure if it's the early onset of Alzheimers. He's a shadow of his former self.

Sad to see him like this.

 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Jun 2020, 11:45
#13
01 Jun 2020, 11:45#13

Alzheimers isn't all bad. You can hide your own Easter eggs, you make new friends every day and you can hide your own Easter eggs.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Jun 2020, 12:44
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01 Jun 2020, 12:44#14


"Alzheimers isn't all bad. You can hide your own Easter eggs, you make new friends every day and you can hide your own Easter eggs."


 haha

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Jun 2020, 17:48
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01 Jun 2020, 17:48#15

The following about Twitter:-

Twitter has rolled out a new warning label and fact-check system to call out tweets that are false, like when President Trump says anything at all.

But the social network is trying to be fair and so is also checking tweets from the Communist Party of China, such as a recent one where China spokesperson Lijian Zhao said that China's coronavirus response was "very great" and that China treats its people with respect. Instead of labeling the tweet as against Twitter rules or as "false," however, the social network found that the tweet was "morally true."

"The Twitter fact-checking team has reviewed this tweet and found it to be morally true," reads the label. Those who click "Learn More" are redirected to the Communist Party's website, where they can read tons of great information about how awesome China is and how President Xi can heal the coronavirus with his laser eyes."



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Jun 2020, 18:08
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01 Jun 2020, 18:08#16

Meng you met die semels...since when is the Chinese government anything morally whatever? The Chinese government have been funding a massive world wide propaganda campaign for decades now, but they are still the same godless dictators of the 80's. Their game is up...they've been exposed. 


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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
02 Jun 2020, 00:10
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02 Jun 2020, 00:10#17
Certain content should be removed, regardless of ideology. If Obama had falsely stated the elections would be rigged if mail-in votes are used, having a fact check is fine. 
It is a false claim that more mail-in voting will be fraud, as the US already does lots of mail voting- including Trump himself.
The coronavirus situation will just increase the % that use this method to cast a vote. The general belief from most politicians in both parties in the past is that elections are generally accurate in America.
There has been "some" cheating, but it is not enough to be affecting the outcomes of the elections in US
Trump could be looking to start a civil war in America. 
“I’m concerned that we could have a constitutional crisis if we have the same president saying that the election was somehow tainted because people voted by mail,” Garcia said. “That could lead to a possible huge crisis in America’s democracy.” 




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jun 2020, 08:00
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02 Jun 2020, 08:00#18

Shark,

You'll just never get it.

I personally can't be arsed explaining it to you better than I have already done.

Just know that there are people looking out for your well being while you support the other team.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jun 2020, 11:49
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02 Jun 2020, 11:49#19

  If Obama had falsely stated the elections would be rigged if mail-in votes are used, having a fact check is fine “

And once again, this clip from 2016 comes in handy.


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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
02 Jun 2020, 15:33
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02 Jun 2020, 15:33#20

A clip of Obama saying that elections are accurate. Not sure why it is relevant other than to further confirm what I am saying. 

The reality is most of the world has respect for Obama, except the religious alt-right.
Most of the world sees Trump for what he is - a piece of shit.

The younger generations in the US are much less religious, so garbage like Trump carrying his Bible will never get back into power in the US


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2020, 15:33
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02 Jun 2020, 15:33#21

SB

As stated how many more court cases do you want about election fraud by the DP before  realizing that proper control  of  the identification of voters is needed before they can cast a vote.   In any event in hearing of  Senate there was a presentation that near to 3,2 million dead voters risen from their graves in the 2016 election in California.   There was in fact 5,5 million dead and missing voters on the role and in a court case subsequently the State was instructed to clean up their voters role,   Nothing has been done thus far about it.

So when a voter died or moved away from an address the voter remains on the role,   The Democrats have used that to the maximum and there standard procedure always  followed by them in dealing with it:-

*    Identify the dead and missing on the voters role and then find a way to get non-registered people who are basically illegal migrants.   

*    They then issue a state identification document to the new voter which does not indicate whether a voter is a US Citizen or not,    Using that they register the non-citizens as voters and they are allowed to vote on an absentee basis and the votes are collected by party agents/

*    The fact is that the California laws on election was changed to remove the need for identifying voters totally.  

 So if they sent out 21 million votes by mail there are about 7 million people not going to vote at all because they are dead and missing,   In ne of the court cases it was found that an elderly woman who lived alone in a house for years - got the ballot forms of 22 voters registered at her house.    She took the forms to a neighbour asking him what she must do with the documents.  He locked it in his safe and when the court case came up he took the votes to the court to prove that there was fraud.
The DP is very polite when it comes to elections.   A husband and wife left California and moved to Denver,   Living there for 18 months the mail were forwarded by the new owners to them.   Amongst them were letters to both - thanking them for voting for the DP in  2016.   They obviously did not  vote in California - so who vote in their place and how did the DP knew they voted for them?
The DP in 2018 wanted to win three House seats in the St Diego area n 2018.   After the polls closed on election day - the votes cast were counted in the three Congressional districts and the RP was so far ahead in the three districts that the DP would need circa 250 000 votes to win the three seats.   Three weeks after election day the DP field workers were still collecting votes to be counted and in the end the target was reached by the DP.   That also resulted in an ugly court case.
The above came out in court cases dealing with fraudulent voting used by the DP routinely to rig outcomes.             
The votes can be harvested up to two weeks after the election day,     

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
02 Jun 2020, 15:38
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02 Jun 2020, 15:38#22
There could still be corruption with other voting mediums, not just mail-in voting. 
Mail-in voting will encourage more people to vote, especially minority groups. Republicans have researched this - and know that this will be more votes against them. 
Something that Obama raised is that no other president in US history has made the claims by Trump. Trump knows if lots of people use mail-in voting, it is going to be a large Democratic majority. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2020, 16:20
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02 Jun 2020, 16:20#23

SB

You must be really nuts if you think that the system is not totally corrupt.   Why is the Democrats so keen on it?   Because they have committed major fraud in  elections for years and they do not want to stop their corrupt voter practices,   Corruption are reduced by identifying voters through normal practices required in all democracies. 

I do not thin such a large majority even with fraudulent votes.  There has already been 3,2 million such votes in 2016 in California and 800 000 in Texas.

Anyway - Trump suggested there can be fraud and there was.  Despite  massive fraud in states like California, New York and Illinois  that was no enough to win in the Electoral College.                

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Jun 2020, 16:57
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02 Jun 2020, 16:57#24

“ Posted by: sharkbok (11755 posts)

Jun 02, 2020, 15:33

A clip of Obama saying that elections are accurate. Not sure why it is relevant other than to further confirm what I am saying. “

I always knew that you were not the brightest sparkler in the pack, but sadly, you seem to have even less sparkle than I thought. 

You talked about Trump’s false claim, saying something like, and I’m paraphrasing, “Imagine if Obama made a false claim.....”. I showed you an example of Obama making a false claim with no consequences. His minions actually thought that he was quite cute. 

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