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2nd Test - India to bat first

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 10:13
#1
03 Jan 2022, 10:13#1
Olivier, Jansen and Verryne. Seems Boucher opted for more bowling strength with Olivier being an outright bowler replacing the all-rounder Mulder. Yeah, I’m confused too. Perhaps the Flopteas will surprises us and someone might get 100 in this game. Perhaps Rassie. Kholi is not playing in this test due to a back spasm. I doubt they need him though.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 10:19
#2
03 Jan 2022, 10:19#2
First mistake. Olivier is new back in the side and gets the new ball with Prince Kagiso. Ngidi should be bowling second. He’s full of confidence and inside some of the Indian’s heads.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 10:50
#3
03 Jan 2022, 10:50#3
India dealing in boundaries as the Flopteas seem to have forgotten where 6th stump is.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jan 2022, 11:23
#4
03 Jan 2022, 11:23#4

I watched thje fiorst ten overs bowled and the average speed of the bowlers was  as follows:-

Medium Fast Bowlers

Rabada                     -      135 kph

Ngidi                         -      132 kph

Medium, Pace Bowler\

Olivier                       -      126 kph

Other than Nortje we have no fast bowler left and the only one that can really bowl at 140+ kph is Jacobs.    South Africa always was proud about is fast-bowling attack now is scraping the barrel.    Jacobs in fact did take a wicket.- the other three have gone through the motion.       

Rabada used to be a fast  bowler - that is gone - he is nothing of the sort anymore.     It is going to cost him in the IPL auction .  He was paid $2,1 million by Delhi - his budget price now with his present pace is down to $600 000 and he would be lucky to get even that.   The magic has gone out of his bowling.     

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 11:33
#5
03 Jan 2022, 11:33#5
One begins to wonder if Rabada is saving himself for IPL and other competitions. That’s probably what I would do if I knew I couldn’t be dropped.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 11:41
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03 Jan 2022, 11:41#6
Ngidi immediately slowing the scoring with Olivier/Jansen continuing a nice spell of nice pressure here…
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 11:44
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03 Jan 2022, 11:44#7
Rahul with 10 off 62 balls and SR16.12
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 12:00
#8
03 Jan 2022, 12:00#8
Olivier takes two in row!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jan 2022, 14:41
#9
03 Jan 2022, 14:41#9

So far 5 wickets taken:-

Jansen               =       2

Olivier               =       2

Rabada              =       1

Olivier still bowl medium pacers with some bound to it.   His  fastest ball was 131 kph with the average at 128 kph.   -   however he is very accurate and difficult to play.   Jansen is in fast bowling range.   

What is happening with Olivier and Jansen has been reporterd back to the IPL clubs and they will consider high bids for both.    .

   

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jan 2022, 16:07
#10
03 Jan 2022, 16:07#10

201/9 Jansen has 4.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jan 2022, 16:11
#11
03 Jan 2022, 16:11#11

202 all out.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jan 2022, 16:40
#12
03 Jan 2022, 16:40#12

Markram out cheap...again!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jan 2022, 16:43
#13
03 Jan 2022, 16:43#13
Ja, it’s perfect. Markram has been a Protea for over five years now but we are happy to wait for another five years for him to get a few runs. Is it not abundantly clear that this guy is not an opener?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2022, 21:36
#14
03 Jan 2022, 21:36#14

Jansen is about 8 ks quicker and he gets more bounce. He is fast/medium maybe just fast. He is awkward enough that he might have a bit of a test career. Olivier looks bog ordinary.

I’d say India were in the stronger position, but for the injury to Siraj which could decide the test.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Jan 2022, 02:50
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04 Jan 2022, 02:50#15
Moz good to see you have changed your mind on Jansen - he looks handy enough for a starter - will get better with a bit of experience Amla said he loved the lads composure Agreed Olivier was rubbish - what the fuck was he doing bowling an average speed of less than 130kph He used to bowl in the high 140’s KG again was bowling his medium pacers Fucking Markram has failed yet again. It’s a sad state of affairs when our most gifted bat can’t find the middle of the bat these days This side has to be one of the worst we have ever had For me the biggest disappointment is the lack of fight and fire from KG It kind of sums up the state of the side as a whole - KG going through the motions and de Kock throwing in the towel Something is very wrong
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2022, 10:02
#16
04 Jan 2022, 10:02#16
I say, if KG wants to bowl at 132km/h then fine. …let him bowl first change and give the new nut to Ngidi. Guy is literally in his prime but is somehow 10 clicks slower? It can’t be an injury because if so then he shouldn’t be playing. One could argue that he may be trying to emulate Pollock or Philander. The problem with that is still his total lack of celebration when he takes a wicket. It leans more towards him simply not caring too much. Contrast that with Tahir. The guy that would do two laps of the field when he took the final tail-ender out. Steyn would look on the verge of bursting a vein when he took wickets. Indeed, KG is annoying everyone at this stage.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 10:30
#17
04 Jan 2022, 10:30#17

Did you forget that KG got in trouble for overdoing the celebrations a few seasons ago? The team needs a spark to put them on the right track again...but the political landscape makes it increasingly difficult for that to happen.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2022, 10:33
#18
04 Jan 2022, 10:33#18

Dave 

There is a pro0blem in the whole set-up - the players are totally demoralized - same as the Springboks became under Meyer and Coetzee.   They are going through the motions and you cans see it from, their attitude and approach to the game.   .   

Look for instance at Elgar - ii runs after facing 75 balls.   He is just standing there trying to block  balls and not very successful in that either.   That is less than 1 run  in every 6 balls faced by him.   That is not leadership at all - it is a losing strategy in a  winnable game.    

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 12:12
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04 Jan 2022, 12:12#19

101/3 with both Peterson (62) and Elgar (28) gone this morning. I like the look of Peteron, but he's yet to perform...pity he didn't get to convert his first 50.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 12:14
#20
04 Jan 2022, 12:14#20

Rassie gone for one...102/4

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2022, 12:24
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04 Jan 2022, 12:24#21

Petersen was fiddling around  - but did make runs  and his average would now reach about 25. in test match cricket.   He is not a test batsman's arse or perhaps he is.

Elgar was horribly ineffective - he made 28 runs casing 125 balls and could ahve been out a number of times - what he did is not batting required in cricket.

And Rassie had another shocker out for 1 run again - he really could have been out e arlier for a duck -but survived by a miracle.   

The team is still at least 3 batsmen short.    When play restart  Bavuma on nil runs and Verreynne will be batting.   My bet is the team will NOT make 150 runs.         /   

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2022, 13:03
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04 Jan 2022, 13:03#22
Rassie, Elgar and Markram failing yet again. Are we even surprised? Bavuma is due for a small score too. Happy days
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 13:37
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04 Jan 2022, 13:37#23

Elgar and Rassie are there for their experience. They'll be gone as soon as the youngsters settle, but the young bats can't step up because the experienced guys don't provide a settled environment...then you go all in and pick your best young bats and let the chips fall...foolish to persist with experience not delivering.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 14:09
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04 Jan 2022, 14:09#24

153/4...51 partnership...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 14:31
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04 Jan 2022, 14:31#25

Verreynne and Bavuma gone after a 60 run partnership - 177/6....still 25 runs short...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2022, 14:54
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04 Jan 2022, 14:54#26

191/7

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2022, 15:09
#27
04 Jan 2022, 15:09#27
This team is so bad. Our previous proteas sides would have put an extra 250 on top of India’s first innings total. One simply cannot have a batting lineup fail so consistently yet refuse to make wholesale changes. Again, the bowlers doing their part but our batters just nowhere to be found. It’s blatantly unacceptable and starting to look equal parts stubbornness and incompetence. And if you don’t want to play Markram at 4 or 5 but he keeps failing up the order then bloody well drop him from the side and put someone in that can bat up the order.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2022, 15:17
#28
04 Jan 2022, 15:17#28
Why is it always so satisfying watching a lanky fast bowler batting? This Jansen chappy is winning me over.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2022, 18:01
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04 Jan 2022, 18:01#29

What about his identical twin brother Duan whom Donald believe is even better than Marco.   Want to find out where he is at present.     

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jan 2022, 18:12
#30
04 Jan 2022, 18:12#30
The bowlers skittle India for 200 in the first innings but our batters will make sure we lose this test. India are 160 runs away from a winning total and their first series win in SA. Hilarious stuff.
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AJHPro3,183 posts
04 Jan 2022, 19:04
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04 Jan 2022, 19:04#31

Par for the course I guess.

If you select failures and expect success then this is your team.

Not impressed with the players except for Jansen.

Well never fear the selectors will no doubt find some more Brillant cricketers in their ANC pick list.

After all these years it is disgusting to think that color is still an issue in RSA.

Shame.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Jan 2022, 21:09
#32
04 Jan 2022, 21:09#32
Geez this side is super shit - how the fuck the bog ordinary Indian 4th seamer took 7 wickets is beyond me There is just no hope for this side. Bavuma is the sole bat looking the part Petersen made runs but was dropped on 12 by the keeper - sitter of a catch The side is fast approaching beyond watching It’s a given we will lose this test
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jan 2022, 01:03
#33
05 Jan 2022, 01:03#33

The Indian seamer, said to remind the commentators of Eddie Barlow,  was 5ks faster than Olivier.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Jan 2022, 02:03
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05 Jan 2022, 02:03#34

That still makes him a medium pace owler.

One would have thought that Nortje will put some real pace into the ODI side - but he i s absent from that series as well.   So back  another toothless attack in that case too.    Pity Jansen has no back-up fast bowler.   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Jan 2022, 03:16
#35
05 Jan 2022, 03:16#35
I reckon my arm ball is faster than the shit Olivier bowls
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jan 2022, 11:21
#36
05 Jan 2022, 11:21#36

I reckon we will lose this test and literally gift India their first ever series win on SA soil

What a fucking joke

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Jan 2022, 12:04
#37
05 Jan 2022, 12:04#37
Yo! Happy New year, DA. I take it you did see Loma wreck Richard Commey? Neo is back in full swing. Looks like KG is taking a few wickets. India Leading by 150 with 5 wickets in hand. If they get another 70-80 runs it’s their series.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Jan 2022, 12:14
#38
05 Jan 2022, 12:14#38

Hey Plum

All the best to you my good man..... let's hope that 2022 is a awesome year for everyone and their families.

Loma crushed him, as most expected...... I really want to see the Loma vs Teo rematch, with a fully fit Loma.........should be very a different outcome.

With us batt ing last on this wicket, anything over 200 should be defendable by India.... I really hope I am wrong, but I just don't see SA chasing anything over 200.... this wicket is gradually getting worse, but if one or two batsman can really set themselves in, and mentally push through.... it can be done... I just doubt it

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
05 Jan 2022, 12:53
#39
05 Jan 2022, 12:53#39

Ja, our bowling is super shit, not to mention our batting too. Probably worst our batting has ever been. We did struggle when we came out of isolation for many years to built a decent batting line up. Darryl Cullinan, Rhodes, Macmillan, Andrew Hudson, Kepler Wessels and Dave Richardson, but none of them other than Cullinan were decent batsmen. Although, Kepler played for Australia which speaks volumes of his quality. 

But this lots takes the cake. Bavuma is poor, for him to look good is next level. What happened to our batsmen that were averaging 50. Right now none of this lot is even above 40. 

I haven't seen a single batsmen post a couple of hundreds or even gotten into double centuries. 

Faf was an okay player, not great but he could grind out a win. Now we have not batsmen that can wear the bowlers down. 

Everyone is more interested in  their IPL contracts and just want to get the test matches done. 

De Kock is a waste of talent and probably better that he is not in the squad. 

We need Kirsten back as a coach, serious shake up at cricket SA is required and enough of this political chair where you have to have 8 selectors for a team. 

Let the coach pick the team, end of

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Jan 2022, 13:44
#40
05 Jan 2022, 13:44#40

Korn

Love it! Our debutant getting in the batter's faces. Lad is ticking boxes for me! He squared up to Bumrah...and is now glaring at him after every ball. Shades of Donald's post-ball look.

I disagree about the bowling being bad. It's been low energy mostly but has turned out match-winning numbers 4 out of 4 times thus far in the series.

DA - I doubt Teo was gonna give Loma a rematch. And with the division being stacked...an injury free Loma should see some other huge fights over the next 2-3 years. Just sucks that he has to move up to lightweight to get good fights.

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