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Started by bluebok5 REPLIES375 VIEWS· 27 Feb 2015, 16:17
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27 Feb 2015, 16:17
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27 Feb 2015, 16:17#1

Has anyone else noted that our cricket captain is not only in the team because of his leadership abilities, but also because he is the best player in not only the team, but probably in the world at the moment? Our rugby captain, is arguably not even good enough to be in the team, let alone anywhere near the top player in his position in the world! As far as rugby is concerned, this seems to have been the case for a while. John Smit was definitely not the best hooker in the country, yet he remained captain. Same can be said for Skinstad and Krige. 


What is more important for a captain, to be the best player or the best leader. Also, is the relationship different when comparing rugby and cricket? 


Please don't give the obvious answer, obviously you want the best player to be the best captain, but this is not an ideal world. 



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DbDraad
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Feb 2015, 17:19
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27 Feb 2015, 17:19#2
 IMHO AB Is not even the second best leader in that team. He is the captain because he is the best player. Primary school mentality to select a captain for such reason. Like I said it's my opinion. 
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01 Mar 2015, 05:49
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01 Mar 2015, 05:49#3
 Agreed with DbDraad,  AB is arguably the best ODI batsman but he isn't the best leader. Unfortunately there's no one in the team that I see as a natural leader. We've lost a few in recent years (Smith, Kallis, Boucher), it's time for someone to step up.I think Cricket is slightly different to rugby or football as far as captains go - in cricket decision making is key, a game is lost or won on who you choose to bowl when and your field placing, it's simply not enough to just lead by example.
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Saffolk
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2015, 19:13
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02 Mar 2015, 19:13#4

Huh, Skinstad was awesome in his day, one of the best 8's I have ever seen....he was not the best 8 in SA at the time, he was the best 8 in the game.

 

Smit was great in his day but played for too long  

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03 Mar 2015, 09:23
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03 Mar 2015, 09:23#5
We've had some great captains both in rugby and cricket...good captains are not necessary the best players but when this is, it is a double bonus.

Morne Du Plessis was a great captain and player, so was Gary Teichmann . John Smit and Francois Pienaar where exceptional captains, Bobby was was an exceptional player but not the best captain.

Eddie Barlow, Clive Rice were exceptional captains but Hansie Cronje was both an exceptional captain and player but ruined his career by having the sin of greed but was man enough to truly repent.
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03 Mar 2015, 09:55
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03 Mar 2015, 09:55#6
Saff, I am just playing devils advocate here, but many people did not rate Skinstad. For me, he was a bit too much like Spies and a bit of a show pony! Anyway, that is not really the point I am trying to make here. Simply put, is it worth having a captain who is great, but at the expense of a better player? Also, does the principle apply to rugby as it does to cricket?  
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