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de Kock retires from test cricket

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Dec 2021, 21:39
#1
30 Dec 2021, 21:39#1
With immediate effect to spend more time with his family What a prick
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Dec 2021, 23:01
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30 Dec 2021, 23:01#2

This guy had some talent. Not as an opening batsmen or tough pitch player….more as a lower middle order clean up type. He has a great eye and good timing….which he needed because he played so far away from his body. But on pitches with consistent bounce, when the movement was benign he could pile on the runs.

But he is a very dumb kid, spoiled by the media and lacking a competitor’s heart.

Perhaps it’s all got to be too much for him.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Dec 2021, 02:29
#3
31 Dec 2021, 02:29#3

De Kock realized that he would get blamed for everything wrong and playing test cricket is a farce in SA with selections being based on discrimination.    De Villiers got sick of the farce and opted out. 

By the way Mozart - De Kock scored 15 centuries in ODI's as an opening batsman compared to Smith's  8  in that format of the game.   Sure he had some talent - a hell of a lot more than Smith.   

I wonder at times whether Mozart  thinks before he  writes garbage on site.    In any event De kock is already a very wealthy guy and income from SA Cricket is not needed by him.   The crazies forced his hand for a while on the BLM farce - and the end as he would rather opt out and earn money on the club circuit than to play for the losers selected by SA Cricket.

I suspect Boucher and Smith are near to calling a day on their involvement in SA Cricket anyway,   .  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2021, 04:02
#4
31 Dec 2021, 04:02#4

‘The crazies forced his hand’____what a load of rubbish. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Dec 2021, 06:59
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31 Dec 2021, 06:59#5

Would you play for a team where the morale is rock bottom?     In any event De Kock is not a person that would put up with rubbish like the BLM BS.    Living in the USA you should know about BLM and their programs - the craze was started by the fake media and went worldwide.    Just a question - is BLM not a communist organization with close links to the Democratic Party?       

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Dec 2021, 08:08
#6
31 Dec 2021, 08:08#6
The best keeper batsman in the world and he doesn’t wanna play test cricket. Could it have anything to do with CSA forcing him to kneel before the political whims of their overlords? Probably. I hope he quits ODIs too. I hope all our white players quit the game in all formats. Let’s ease the tensions and give the all eleven spots to non-whites. We keep complaining about selections but there can only be 11 in a team and only 4 are supposed to be white. So who do you pick? Make Bavuma the captain in all formats and let him lead the kneeling from here to kingdom come.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Dec 2021, 13:21
#7
31 Dec 2021, 13:21#7
Rumour has it Boucher is next to go but they will have to pay him out For the connoisseur test cricket is the measure. de Kock has a God given talent which he clearly does not cherish or respect. He shows no honour or respect in being selected to represent his country. Yes the current political crap, the state of the current side and the knee issue were contributing no doubt. There is no money to be made playing for SA, that comes in the form of the IPL etc. He is just a selfish, stupid prick dumb enough to use the family he does not even have yet as his reason for retiring
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Dec 2021, 14:32
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31 Dec 2021, 14:32#8
Saffex There is as much honour and respect available for in playing for the current Proteas as there was in playing for the Springbok cricket team during apartheid. Not only are their quotas but they seem to want to force political support from players. We have substandard ex-players heading up Supersport panel teams purely on the basis of being black. We have sports ministers that openly behave in racist ways towards our best players and medal winners. Sport and sports broadcasting in SA is rife with political meddling. The sooner it’s in the grave the better.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Dec 2021, 16:36
#9
31 Dec 2021, 16:36#9

"He shows no honour or respect in being selected to represent his country. Yes the current political crap, the state of the current side and the knee issue were contributing no doubt. 

He should have stuck to his guns after telling them to fck off back then...I got that he felt he let the team down in a world cup by refusing to play, but what about CSA letting him down? This sad sh!t show needs to crash and burn ASAP.


"Not only are their quotas but they seem to want to force political support from players"

Indeed...they can go to hell, I will always have a soft spot for South African sports teams, but this political crap is making it very difficult to stay positive. 

"Sport and sports broadcasting in SA is rife with political meddling. The sooner it’s in the grave the better."

Yes, the sooner MNet/DSTV crash and burn, the better...I really hope ol ine streaming kills them off soon, maybe then we'll have fair pricing structure for sports broadcast.

I love my country but I'm so tired of this BS.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Dec 2021, 17:27
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31 Dec 2021, 17:27#10

Dave

The fact is that the IPL is the  big paymaster - but there are other tournaments worldwide where lots of money can be made.   There was last year the case of English players playing in the IPL who withdrew from the  IPL because of international obligations/   They lost millions in income and  is now on the shit list of the clubs who will only with difficulty bid  on them in the auction and that at much lower prices than they would have earned. 

In the case of SA  the Rand is in such shit that to play for them  in international terms is not even worth anything.   With all the political aggravation and  BS it is not worth the BS to keep up with.   In any event - I do not think that cricket in SA will ever recover from the malaise it is in.  The morale in the team is gone - same as the case was under Meyer and Coetzee - so why should cricket players actually bother about the Proteas team.

The other fact is that the stream of players - especially younger ones - are going to escalate soon beyond control and cricket will lose players like  Van Tonder and other younger  players sooner than you think would happen.    Cricket in SA is from an intenational perspective a dead end sport for SA Whites - end of story. 

My brother's son went to England in 2000 and he returned last year to ensure his son gets top education in his old school Oakdale Agric High in Riversdale and from there complete his studies.   His main sport is cricket and he is already showing signs of top class cricket ability.   Both his parents and him are dual citizens and when I last spoke to him I said that if he intends to play cricket professionally he'll have to do so outside of SA.    That is i n fact the reality faced by White SA sportsmen and women.    .          

       

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Dec 2021, 17:30
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31 Dec 2021, 17:30#11
Draad, they’ll snap soon. I hope so anyway. So many people I know have cancelled their DSTV subs. Most of them citing quotas as the cause.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2021, 17:42
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31 Dec 2021, 17:42#12

I don’t know too much about Bavuma as a political symbol. But as a cricketer I respect him. He never gives away his wicket, he respects the role he has to play in the game and he does so with minimum fuss. I thought he handled kneelgate pretty well…..and yesterday when the Indian bowler made a ludicrous attempt to run him out with what looked like a painful blow on the foot, there were no hysterics….he just accepted the apology.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
31 Dec 2021, 18:45
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31 Dec 2021, 18:45#13

I for one think he has taken the easy way out after his stand and then the shameful retraction of not taking the knee.

Plus playing in a team that is nothing more than below average is sure to have taken its toll as well.

Fill your pockets in the IPL season and keep the money overseas plus any other funds that you can is my advice.

Good luck for the future and trust all goes well with the family.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Dec 2021, 19:57
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31 Dec 2021, 19:57#14
Moz Bavuma is a bit of a fighter but he leaned heavily into the BLM nonsense and chucked his weight, all 7 stone of it, behind quotas too. I supported him up until then.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Dec 2021, 20:12
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31 Dec 2021, 20:12#15
Bavuma has always looked the part much like Markram but their test averages don’t reflect their look Markram is closer to respectability and I think Bavuma’s test average is heading in the right direction but aged 31 he is hardly a long term investment
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2021, 20:14
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31 Dec 2021, 20:14#16

Pity! How can one respect the individual when they always bow to the collective.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Jan 2022, 10:28
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01 Jan 2022, 10:28#17

So De Villiers bowed to the inevitable BS by going on playing for a year after the  2015 disaster and then  quit as a test player.     De Kock did play on in the T20WC and then waited for one test before he bowed out of test cricket.   I have a lot of respect for both De Villiers and De Kock to bow out of SA test cricket.    It is clear De Kock is not interested to play for SA and he did what was right in that case.   I doubt very much if he will play for the present joke squad again - he is likely to opt out of that as well.   

A loss to SA cricket he definitely  is.    Your attacks on De Kock started in 2016 and even when he opted out the BS the attacks continue.   I will continue to wish him well for the future - he was lost due to SA Cricket BS on race issues.   SA is already an export of cricket players and it will become worse in future.    Both Smith and Boucher  butchered their reputations by gtting involved in the SA Cricket clown show.    They will regret it and eave too - what will you say then?                  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Jan 2022, 13:29
#18
01 Jan 2022, 13:29#18

"Bavuma is a bit of a fighter but he leaned heavily into the BLM nonsense and chucked his weight, all 7 stone of it, behind quotas too.

I supported him up until then."

Agreed...and sadly the Boks are following the same woke narrative...hopefully the forced knee mandate won't ever happen in rugby...the hill I chose...

"Pity! How can one respect the individual when they always bow to the collective."

"The Collective" don’t tolerate any dissent...their way or the highway.




"Bavuma has always looked the part much like Markram but their test averages don’t reflect their look."

Close but no cigar...the fairytale nosedived...

"So De Villiers bowed to the inevitable BS by going on playing for a year after the  2015 disaster and then  quit as a test player.     De Kock did play on in the T20WC and then waited for one test before he bowed out of test cricket.   I have a lot of respect for both De Villiers and De Kock to bow out of SA test cricket. "


Indeed Mike...AB bowed out under similar circumstances...and he also caved and tried to get back in a while later...and not only in tests...a team player will dearly miss the team brotherhood and camaraderie after retirement and look for ways to get it back.



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Jan 2022, 14:10
#19
01 Jan 2022, 14:10#19

"He should have stuck to his guns after telling them to fck off back then...I got that he felt he let the team down in a world cup by refusing to play, but what about CSA letting him down? This sad sh!t show needs to crash and burn ASAP."

Spot on .

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Jan 2022, 14:52
#20
01 Jan 2022, 14:52#20

"So De Villiers bowed to the inevitable BS by going on playing for a year after the  2015 disaster and then  quit as a test player.     De Kock did play on in the T20WC and then waited for one test before he bowed out of test cricket.   I have a lot of respect for both De Villiers and De Kock to bow out of SA test cricket. "

Both of them caved in to the rotten setup that is CSA....they tried but were overwhelmed. CSA has fallen to it's lowest point ever.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Jan 2022, 16:02
#21
01 Jan 2022, 16:02#21
CSA are apparently wanting to get rid of Boucher and Smith especially after the racial bullshit
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