Klaasen can’t offset horrible bowling and poor captaincy

Klaasen is back.....what an innings from the big fellow. It should have been a series winning innings. But for horrible bowling from Phlek and Ngidi at the death and inept captaincy from de Ock. Did he ever say anything to his bowlers......and why leave Phlek to bowl key overs at the end. A huge total botched.

It was left to Klaasen to try to give Ngidi some direction. 

Then there was the fielding,  Pretorius and Bavuma ensured our fate with awful missed catches. Hell the kid in the crowd made a harder catch.

England have some real experienced pros in Morgan, Stokes, Bairstow and Roy.  We are years away from getting back to that kind of team.

Mozart madness struck again - the poor old fool does not realize that De Kock was given a shit team to captain.

Who must De Kock use?   All the bowlers were poor.  When the minimum  economy rate of the   bowlers were 10 -  of all bowlers  Pretorius achieved that - it was clear that all the bowlers failed badly,

Another case where in a rare event Klaasen had a good game you insist that he must replace De Kock?   Lunacy is incurable.      

I accept Ock is unfortunately not an intellect....it’s the victim pose that gets me. I actually like Ngidi, as sort of modern day Peter Heine, but if there’s one ball not to bowl Morgan it’s a full toss on the hip.

This post is dedicated to the Wanker.

That was some terrible death bowling. 

Ngidi bowling full tosses and leg side half-volleys. Andile bowling bouncers to a guy already set, and at his pace?

Neither of them bowled to their field, nor anything resembling what limited overs death bowling should look like. Between them they cost us the series. 

Oh what bullshit blaming them for the series loss

The ODI and T20I series were lost because of the bowling,    How the hell can you have bowlers like Hendriks and Fortuin in the  squad and then expect anything from the team?  T hen we have the classical case of Smuts who could not bat nor bowl in the squad,    The catching was the same - how many players missed catches yesterday?   

The whole setup of the squad was total lunacy,    We had the laughable  situation  in the  two warm-up ODI games that the bowlers caused more difficulties for the same English batsmen than the bowlers did in the main ODI series,   Why was a bowler like Tait and a batsman like Snyman not in the squad for the main series and not in the T20I series as well,  

Easy to attack De Kock's  captaincy - but neither of  the two attackers suggested another player to captain the side,   Who do they want  as captain?   Do you want Du Plessis as captain who in the test series was atrocious  in batting and whose field placings were laughable?   

The squads for both the ODI and T20I series were BS in capital letters - as were the squad in the test series.   

Why ignore the selections issue and blame De Kock for what went wrong in the tests, ODI's and T20I's and not deal with the real problem of squad selection?   

The T20I and ODI series against Australia start next week and the same BS squad selections will be in evidence and who will then  be blamed for the disaster,   De Kock again?                       

Dave, Ngidi was shocking at the death.....

No point in trying to sugar coat it, he was pathetic..... and still he was all smiles and laughing

Where the fuck is the pride?

It was absolutely pathetic from Ngidi

D uplication

The following includes the comments of Boucher on the issue:-

"Proteas head coach Mark Boucher felt his batsmen achieved an above par total but were let down by the bowlers’ inability to execute game plans – particularly bowling yorkers – throughout England’s successful run-chase here on Sunday. 

England reached the target of 223 off the first ball of the final over in another enthralling encounter to end one of the most thrilling T20 series’ ever played. The first two matches both went down to the last ball and this one should have as well had South Africa bowled better.

“The wicket was really good and the ball does tend to fly here, but 223 was a good score – above par I thought,” said Boucher. “It just went wrong for us in the bowling. We just bowled too many ‘soft’ deliveries and they capitalised.”

A match aggregate of 448 runs, indicates just how dominant bat was over ball with a total of 65 boundaries struck over 39.1 overs. 

“They’ve got a lot of aggressive players, and when there’s a high score like that they have no option but to come out and play. We just missed our areas too often with the ball.”

The 17th and 18th overs were particularly painful for the Proteas with England scoring 35 runs in those two overs bowled by Andile Phehlukwayo and Lungi Ngidi. 

Comparing it to last Friday, where his side conceded 79 runs in the last five overs of England’s innings, Boucher said the bowlers’ mindset was right on Sunday, but the execution wasn’t. “We spoke about nailing more yorkers (after Friday night’s game). It is difficult to go and train those sort of things now, because we play then we travel so the skill is not where it should be. We need to work on that. They hit one or two yorkers for boundaries - and those are good shots - but in between there were too many soft deliveries.”

From a series perspective and with the T20 World Cup in Australia later this year in mind, Boucher said a few questions had been answered but others remained unanswered. “I was very happy with the batting, we’ve put good scores on the board. The bowling has at times been good and we have picked up wickets. We have the wicket-taking ability, but as a unit we are not hitting our straps enough,” he said.

South Africa face Australia in the first of three T20 matches at the Wanderers on Friday night and once the One-Day series against the same opponents ends, Boucher wants to organise a training camp to accelerate the improvement of players’ skills across the board. 

The squad for the T20 series against the Australians will be named on Tuesday."

Let us be quite frank  on the issue and look at the bowling  stats of the bowlers in the last two T20I's insofar as the economy rates are concerned:-

Second  T20I   

Fortuin           -   2 overs    -   15 runs     -    7,5   -    OK

Hendricks       -   3 overs   -   45 runs     -   15,0   -   BS

Ngidi               -   4 overs    -  48 runs     -   12,0   -   BS

Phehlukwayo  -   4 0vers   -   47 runs    -    11,75 -  BS

Shamsi             -   4 overs   -   30 runs   -      7,5    -  OK

Pretorius         -   3 overs   -   17 runs    -     5,75  -   Very good

3rd  T20I

Fortuin           -   1 over     -   14 runs     -   14,0  -    BS

Steyn               -   4 overs   -   43 runs     -   10,75 -   BS

Ngidi               -   4 overs    -  55 runs     -   13,75  -   BS

Phehlukwayo  -   3.1 0vers -  33 runs    -    10,75 -  BS

Shamsi             -   3 overs   -   40 runs   -     13,33  - BS

Pretorius         -   4 overs   -   40 runs    -     10,0  -   BS 

Looking at the above one has to wonder how some could defend  the bowling of Ngidi and Phehlukwayo.   Hendricks was so poor in the 2nd T20I that he was left out of the team for the 3rd one.   However, were  any of the bowlers in the 3rd T20I game acceptable and the answer is no.  

Two England bowlers were on average 8,25 and 8,75 and that made the difference between the two teams. 

It is easy for the denialists - blame De Kock for the loss.   Insofar as Ngidi is concerned he was very good when he first hit the scene. After his injuries he was a total disaster in all the games played.   

We will see the BS the Selection Committee comes up with tomorrow,   I hope we have seen the last of  Hendricks, Ngidi and Smuts.  Throw out  Phehlukwayo and Fortuin for good measure as well.                  

Ngidi was beyond pathetic, but it was his response to getting hammered which pissed me off...

He was laughing and smiling like it was all a big joke

Where the hell has the sporting pride gone?

He didn't even look like he was trying to bowl into the blockhole..... just half volley after half volley asking to go to the boundary...…

Ngidi was utterly pathetic yesterday, and the stats above show it quite clearly

Not only yesterday - he as bad in the 2nd  T20I as well,  He  gave away 48 runs in  4 overs bowled and the economy rate is 12,0 runs  per over,   Pathetic    

The two strike bowlers of the Proteas (Steyn and Ngidi) gave away 98 runs in 8 overs bowled for an average of 12,25 runs per over,

In the case of the English their best two bowlers (Curran and Stokes) gave away 66 runs - making a difference of 32 runs compared to the two main bowlers in the Proteas side,   Even if the two Protea bowlers went for 80 runs at 10 runs per over each,  the chances are that the  English would have had great difficulty to win the game yesterday.          

100%  Mike

Dave 

The last over  Ngidi gave away 16 runs - which was higher than his average but nor by much.  His average after his third over was already 13 runs per over bowled - 39 runs in 3 overs for an aveage of 13 runs per over,   He ended up with an average of 13,75 per over,

Sorry to disagree - his bowling was bloody awful throughout three of the overs he bowled in the game.

First over                              =      5 runs 

Second over                          =     14 runs

Third over                             =     20 runs

Fourth over                            =     16 runs     

The Firth shall be forth....the over shall be fourth.

Dave 

Not stupidity at all - the figures were given and as per normal according to you fiction prevails,   Nobody claimed the other SA bowlers were better - even though they did not have the poor figures Ngidi achieved,    The comment on Ngidi stemmed from the totally incorrect story you came up with,   

And sure in the game on Saturday the two English bowlers mentioned - Stoke and Curran - gave away 32 runs less in their 8 overs bowled  than Steyn and Ngidi did,   The rest of the English bowlers were atrocious too.       

Another issue Dave and Mozart

You attacked De Kock as to the captaincy issue and  a logical response was who should be captain?    No answer yet - answer please,   

Mozart

Back to the heading of this thread. Sure Klaasen did a great job with a batting strike rate of 200 in the game,   However, it raises the question again as to his overall performances for the Proteas - which does not look good enough for automatic selection to the team as proven by his stats:-   

ICC Profile

Batting Career Summary

M

Inn

NO

Runs

HS

Avg

BF

SR

100

200

50

4s

6s

Test

1

2

0

11

6

5.5

34

32.35

0

0

0

1

0

ODI

14

13

2

251

59

22.82

291

86.25

0

0

1

26

6

T20I

10

10

2

222

69

27.75

140

158.57

0

0

2

12

15

IPL

7

6

1

66

32

13.2

57

115.79

0

0

0

5

1

Ock just proved as captain  he is too thick even for ODIs. The initial response to captaincy was better batting as he gained confidence from the appointment. It may last a series or two. But as the pressure ratchets up with the inevitable losses this team will experience....that will disappear. And eventually his confidence as a bat will be impacted by criticism of his captaincy.

Being a confidence player this will likely be the worst possible thing for Ockie.

Based on your theory only - without any concrete proof of anything.  Just what you in your prejudiced mind think about the issue,   Same as your normal tripe about certain rugby players,      

So who must be the captain then?    

Markram has had more chances than Stiaan van Zyl, he should have realized that huge potential by now. Lucky for him, all the other bats have been p!sspoor too.