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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:05
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25 Mar 2015, 15:05#1

The following from News 24:-


 Following their agonising semi-final defeat to New Zealand, Sport24 rates the 15 Proteas’ performances at the Cricket World Cup:


Hashim Amla - 5/10

333 runs at an average of 41.62

Not Amla’s best World Cup, his highest score of 159 came against minnows Ireland and he failed to register big totals when it really mattered - during the knockout phases.

Quinton de Kock - 4/10

145 runs at an average of 20.71

De Kock’s unbeaten 78 against Sri Lanka in the semi-final was his only noteworthy contribution with the bat. He mostly kept wicket well, but it was otherwise a pretty forgettable World Cup for the youngster, with his run-out fumble in the semi-final against New Zealand also proving costly. He nevertheless remains a key figure for future ICC events…

Faf du Plessis - 8/10

380 runs at an average of 63.33

Du Plessis should be chuffed by his performance. He also came good when it really mattered in the semi-finals against New Zealand, scoring 82 before rain spoiled his and AB de Villiers’s party. Du Plessis's value as a top class fielder was also evident throughout.

Rilee Rossouw - 7/10

210 runs at an average of 52.50

Has finally come good after a torrid start to his international career and forced his way into the team after initially not making the starting XI. A strike rate of 116.66 also emphasised his effectiveness.

AB de Villiers - 9/10

482 runs at an average of 96.40

Simply sublime with the bat and proved why he is the world’s best. It was perhaps not his fault that the selectors left him with the fifth bowler conundrum which forced him to bring himself into the attack at various stages during the tournament. He wasn’t the tournament’s worst bowler, but a part-timer should not be bowling at the death in a World Cup semi-final. He will also forever rue a missed run-out opportunity against Corey Anderson in the semi-final loss at Eden Park.

David Miller - 7/10

324 runs at an average of 64.80

A top-notch performance with the bat during the tournament. Miller's 49 off 18 balls in the semi-final proved he is capable of performing when it really matters. His strike rate of 139.05 was only bettered by De Villiers (144.31).

JP Duminy - 7/10

164 runs at an average of 54.66; 6 wickets at an average of 33.66 (economy: 5.77)

A top effort with the bat, and his hat-trick with the ball won his team the game against Sri Lanka in the quarter-finals. It however remains a risk to enter a clash with him as the sole recognised fifth bowler option. This forced part-timer De Villiers to bowl a few overs - which isn’t ideal at the top level of the game. ‘Koppe’ will also rue running into team-mate Farhaan Behardien late in the semi-final against New Zealand, which resulted in the latter dropping New Zealand match-winner Grant Elliott off the last ball of the penultimate over. Behardien seemingly had the catch covered, only for Duminy to run into him and butcher what would likely have been a ticket to the Cricket World Cup final in Melbourne…

Vernon Philander - 5/10

4 wickets at an average of 33.75 (economy: 4.73); 10 runs at an average of 10

Wasn’t fit for large parts of the tournament and should never have been risked at the expense of Kyle Abbott in the semi-finals.

Dale Steyn - 4/10

11 wickets at an average of 31.45 (economy: 5.02)

Steyn was well short of his best at this tournament, his 1-76 off 8.1 overs simply not good enough if you want to win a semi-final. The script was written for him to defend 12 runs off the final over, but he couldn’t hit his lines when it really mattered…

Morne Morkel - 8/10

17 wickets at an average of 17.58 (economy: 4.38)

Can feel proud of his effort and was South Africa’s best bowler at this World Cup. Still bowls too short at times though and could do with a little more variation.

Imran Tahir - 8/10

15 wickets at an average of 21.53 (economy 4.23)

Along with Morkel, one of the two shining lights in the South African bowling line-up. Was unlucky not to pick up wickets in the semi-final, but brought SA to that stage with a man-of-the-match 4/26 against Sri Lanka in the quarter-finals.

Kyle Abbott - 8/10

9 wickets at an average of 14.44 (economy 4.19).

A top-notch effort from a player who deserves better treatment from selectors. Should never have been dropped for an unfit Philander in the semi-finals.

Wayne Parnell - 3/10

1 wicket at an average of 85 (economy of 9.44); 17 runs (not out)

Played one ill-fated game against India and was pummelled to all parts. He was picked as an all-rounder but a lack of consistency in recent times saw management lose faith in his ability - hence his no-show for the remainder of the tournament.

Farhaan Behardien - 4/10

74 runs at an average of 74* (wasn't dismissed); 0 wickets for 64 runs (economy 5.81)

Scored 64* against lowly UAE but was a largely peripheral figure during the tournament. Surely a better all-rounder could have cracked the nod for the squad?

Aaron Phangiso (N/A)

Didn't play a match and his inclusion was surplus to requirements. With Tahir and Duminy already in the squad as spinners, his selection as spinner made no sense.

A proper all-rounder was needed and his slot should have been reserved for just that."


This co-insides with my own rating of players - but not with the Mozart Village idiot - who has only one thing in his befuddled mind - De Kock.   As the reporter wrote above - He nevertheless remains a key figure for future ICC events.


The same cannot be said of the following:-


Amla -  although Amla is rated as 5/10 - that rating does not apply to my mind to the quarter-final and the semi-final.  In those two important games he failed badly and the rating for those 2 should be 3/10.


Philander - the reporter is spot-on about Philander - he should not have been in the semi - in view of his fitness record during the WC and there is a serious question mark about his selection as an ODI player in any event.


Dale Steyn - he failed badly when it really counted and his absurd bowling fidures in the semi delivered the game to the New Zealanders.  In that game he was nothing better than 2/10


Behardien and Parnell - why were they in the squad in any event.   The same can be said about Phangiso.




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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:09
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25 Mar 2015, 15:09#2
 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:18
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25 Mar 2015, 15:18#3
 Mozart aka Dofdoos
Too astupid top comment about the above - Dofdoos?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:18
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25 Mar 2015, 15:18#4
Holy shart Moz, that is childish....yet here I am laughing at it! 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:23
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25 Mar 2015, 15:23#5
 Of course it's childish Bloo....but very satisfying. Feel free to laugh!
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:38
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25 Mar 2015, 15:38#6
I would dock AB de Villiers at least a point for not having the guts to put his hand up and take the wicket-keeping duties so that the hopelessly out-of-form Quinton de Kock could be dropped and Kyle Abbott could have been included.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Mar 2015, 15:48
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25 Mar 2015, 15:48#7
 As I said. AB is a brilliant brilliant cricket player. A captain, he is not. Sorry. Faf or Amla would have been a better call. The 2003 CWC saw Polly getting the boot as captain and  that did not do his reputation any harm. In fact, the way that he took it o n the chin and supported the new captain from day one, did him great honours in the end. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2015, 16:28
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25 Mar 2015, 16:28#8

Funny thing is, the two guys to disappoint were Amla and Steyn.....both amongst the best in the game, but just not on fire this WC......that's life.

 

de Kock found form in the end against Sri Lanka and went on the chase in the semi thanks to the lack of runs we started off with.

 

Philander to, was not at his best, but injury played a part here.

 

Miller and Rossouw were the finds for us......both quality youngsters.

 

AB was huge, Morkel and Tahir were great  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2015, 16:42
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25 Mar 2015, 16:42#9
De Kock never found form, he found a Sri Lankan team that had given up..... the moment the pressure was on he failed again. He should have been out twice in his first over!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2015, 18:12
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25 Mar 2015, 18:12#10
Oh what utter rubbish, he hit the ball beautifully against Sri Lanka......the kind of hitting that had him back in form - FACT......well documented by all including the well placed commentators and Sky guests including Kallis , but not according to you as you are anti de Kock.....it equates with Matfield outplaying PSDT or de Jongh still adding value......its all a load of crap 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2015, 18:32
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25 Mar 2015, 18:32#11
 Dave 100% summary.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2015, 18:47
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25 Mar 2015, 18:47#12

The objective was to win the WC not beat up on a totally demoralized Sri Lankan team. The question was whether he can play under pressure....he can't.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Mar 2015, 19:10
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25 Mar 2015, 19:10#13
Amla still ended up being the 12th highest scoring batsman at the CWC with an average of 41, with AB and Faf the only Protea batsmen ahead of him. Hardly a failure, despite his disappointing last two outings.

So you wouldn't say De Kock was a disappointment then Dave? Way down at #64, behind such world renowned batting talents as Preston Mommsen of Scotland and Khurram Khan of the UAE?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2015, 19:27
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25 Mar 2015, 19:27#14

de Kock was crap with the bat apart from against Sri Lanka......he was not in form poor lad....but that knock against Sri Lanka reminded us just what a class act he is.

 

He failed at the WC with the bat but was good behind the stumps.

 

As for Amla, he was below his usual wonderful self and that average of 40 was thanks to the Ireland game.

 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Mar 2015, 19:28
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25 Mar 2015, 19:28#15
And bullshit de Kock can play under pressure he has already proved that and is all of 22........he is going to be another SA great by the end of his time 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2015, 19:41
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25 Mar 2015, 19:41#16
S ure just like JJ.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Mar 2015, 20:48
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25 Mar 2015, 20:48#17
Quite a few of the top 10 batsmen in the CWC has one blowout innings to thank for an average of over 40. Amla perhaps didn't meet his usual high standards, but he was hardly a failure, missing the top 10 by just 7 runs.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Mar 2015, 16:02
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27 Mar 2015, 16:02#18
By Amla's standards he was a failure and I'm sure he would be the first to admit that......sadly Hash hit a poor run of form by his standards  
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Mar 2015, 16:52
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27 Mar 2015, 16:52#19
 De Kock not performing put extra pressure on Amla and Faf. Faf thrives on pressure. He would be my captain in Tests and ODI"s. Amla does well as test captain, but I think Faf has more grit.Our biggest problem is Hudson.  Ad political interference and we are doomed to fail time and again.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Mar 2015, 17:01
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27 Mar 2015, 17:01#20

Rubbish......de Kock performed against Sri Lanka where Amla failed.....against NZ neither got going.

 

Amla plays his own game, those around him hardly affect him......by his standards he failed......we needed Hash to bat through in that semi.

 

Amla is twice the talent Faf is with the bat.....both have equal grit I'd say

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Mar 2015, 17:13
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27 Mar 2015, 17:13#21
 Mozart constantly live in the past and the at remains his aim in life.  Virtually all his posts are about De Kock, but what happened in the past WC's with Graeme Smith as an opening batsman for instance?
Lets go back to the 2011 WC and see what was produced by Graeme Smith - De K ock's predecessor as opening batsman:-
West Indies     =     45   -   116    -   2,32 rpoNetherlands     =     20   -     57   -    2,10 rpoEngland          =      23  -     63   -    2,19 rpoIndia              =     16   -     39   -    2,56 rpoIreland           =       7   -     43   -    0,97 rpoBanglaDesh     =      45  -     86   -    3,14 rpoNew Zealand   =      28  -     59   -    2,84 rpo
Granted Smith scored more runs than De Kock did - but his performance was nonetheless worse than that of De Kock in view of the following:-
Runs scored   =    170 Balls faced     =    463Run rate        =    2,20 rpo

The question is what i.s worse in ODI's - wasting balls to such a huge extent - or trying to score runs at a reasonable/high rate and going out in the process?   Definitely the first - it puts the lower order batsman  under massive pressure and normally lose games because so many balls out of 300 are wasted. 
The question is - what was Smith's contribution to the 2011 WC?   A major reason why we could not win even the quarter-final.   So what did the village idiot Mozart said about that fiasco?   Zero - nothing - zero.   
All agree that De Kock in his first WC did not live up to expectations - but to carry on demeaning him in every item the Village Idiot writes in this site is crazy and useless.        
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2015, 17:52
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27 Mar 2015, 17:52#22
He lived up to my expectations.... ....they were very low.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Mar 2015, 18:02
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27 Mar 2015, 18:02#23
 So your misguided expectations of Smith were not very low.  But why the silence about it - Village idiot - and the constant carping about De Kock.  De Kock is a better batsman than Smith ever was and your melodrama about it is exactly that - rank stupidity. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2015, 18:09
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27 Mar 2015, 18:09#24
 
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Mar 2015, 23:31
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27 Mar 2015, 23:31#25
"De Kock is a better batsman than Smith ever was"

Why don't we compare them again once De Kock reaches 9265 test runs and 6989 ODI runs? At the moment he is still 9001 test runs and 5358 ODI runs short.

I'm no fan of Graeme Smith, but you can't even realistically compare the two right now.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
28 Mar 2015, 01:10
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28 Mar 2015, 01:10#26
 That egg face pic is a crack up ,the line from ' I am the walrus'' comes to mind ....
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Mar 2015, 01:55
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28 Mar 2015, 01:55#27
One of the better ones...I like the angry man as well.....why are we all so angry these days?  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2015, 08:09
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28 Mar 2015, 08:09#28
 Easy answer - some of the members has lost all their objectivity on issues and others lose theirs because they get irked by the stupidity of the members who lost th eirs in the first place.  
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