Proteas deserved champions Vs West Indies

Chippo mate, a win is a win, like you I'll take it but as you've said..."there's a lot of work to be done" have to agree but before that work is started they need to get the right people on the bus and you're not getting the right people with a view to the future with the likes of debutant 31 year old Reeza Hendricks as an example. Getting the right players on the bus was selecting your man  Wiaan Mulder.....look what a difference he made, I called for his selection before the team was announced. There are several changes that need to be made, I've just touched on a few. If they don't then sad to say there is no hope for the Proteas being what they should and could be.

Without De Kock  and the bowlers - none of the matches making up both the tests and T20I's  would have been won.      The winning of the two series has not cleared up the integral problems  the team is suffering from.   .

They need batsmen especially - the present batsmen are poor - they need  captains that leads by example in their specialist fields .  Lastly - they need better coaching than theya re getting at present, as well as proper squad and teams election.   

Not being capable of scoring more than 170  runs in T20I's  will lose more matches than it would win.       

Agree with you -- but they should phase players in gradually and that is not happening.   

This series of 20/20 and tests has only proven just how weak both the WI and Protea teams are.

Yes Babuma was the Captain of the 20/20 side but what did he contribute to the wins. One score over 50 in five games as one of the "Star" batsman.

That also holds good for numerous other players as well but the bigger issue is that the WI team must be one of the weakest teams in test cricket today.

Agree with the other scribes in that SAC has a mountain ahead of them to get back into contention against OZ, NZ, India and England.

The older players are failing at the crease and the young guns are following them.

Shambles if it was not for de Kock.  

Amazing that the selectors have added more faders to the squad to play Ireland.

Not sure of the standard of Irish cricket but they cannot be on a par with the WI squad I think.

So the Proteas will most likely beat them and then the CSA officials will claim that all is well with the players and cricket in SA.

All downhill it appears, unfortunately.

Amazing that the selectors have added more faders to the squad to play Ireland.

Not sure of the standard of Irish cricket but they cannot be on a par with the WI squad I think.

So the Proteas will most likely beat them and then the CSA officials will claim that all is well with the players and cricket in SA.

All downhill it appears, unfortunately.

Sorry for the double post but the site is slow (to RSA) and I posted a second time as previously I have posted comments and they were not added to the site.

Jammer.

Markram, Verrynne, Quintie, Malan.

Rabada, Nortje, Linde.

We only need 4 more. 

Two bats and two all-rounders. Not a big deal. We have more than enough guys to fill those spots.

Problem is, they can't be white. 

Add quotas and, ja, good luck. 

Bavuma is kak. He's had his shot and for a top six to have one 100 to his name at test level is just stupid. And after how many innings now?

I liked him and had hoped for the guy but he doesn't play to his strength. He's tiny, yet seems to want to play off the front foot mostly. The reason Sachin was great was because he understood that bowlers needed to bowl a foot or two fuller to him or else he could hit them square. And when they over corrected he would jump on the drive. And by winning that simple contest, using a basic strategy he could pressure bowlers and dominate his way to big hundreds.

Bavuma's instinct is to play straight and only very conventioanlly through the offside. The problem being length balls wizzing past the shoulder of his bat. I think he has this Brian Lara type cover drive image in his head of how he should bat. Sorry bud, that's for people taller than 3 foot nothing.

Kallis speaks highly of Peterson...

There is a difference between playing onm international level and playing on provincial level.    Some performers find it impossible to take the step up to international level - others need some time to adjust to the higher level and some  is too old to overcome their deficiencies.

I think the approach of  SA teams electors are  ignoring international practices,   If over a season players fail over a season they are replaced .   In most countries like Australia., India and England when they look at t5hose replacements they generally look at younger players - realizing the need for building up their teams. over a period.

In South Africa it is virtually impossible to replace failed players.    Players - especially batsmen according to Boucher "owns" their positions in the team and when they in the end decide to discontinue their international careers  they select players older than 28 to replace them.     There is really no planning for longer term team development and that is certainly foolish and shortsighted,  

My problem with for instance Petersen is that he is already 28 years old and there are far better younger batsmen than him that is being ignored. - eg a guy like Van Tonder.

The other problem si that a 33 year old captain appointee is also stupid.   Signs are that Elgar is already showing signs of failure and that is not going to improve. in the next two years.   Smith was a successful captain after initial problems and was on all accounts a good captain for about 9 years before he started failing and had to be replaced.    bavuma is also not an up tos tandard player that could be regarded as a leader by example.   

The whole present system is designed for failure - end of  story.       .    ,        

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