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Proteas squads named for Test Series and A team match against England

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2019, 16:30
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16 Dec 2019, 16:30#1

Who is on the Selection Committee?

Linda Zondi (welcomed back on board on Saturday) then headed up a panel also comprising Hussain Manack, Domingo and two former national players in Ashwell Prince and Errol Stewart.

I do not trust any of the SC members to even make a basic selection of players to play test cricket,   Where is Graeme Smith and Boucher in all this??????   

Test series

Faf du Plessis (Titans, captain), Temba Bavuma (Lions), Quinton de Kock (Titans), Dean Elgar (Titans), Beuran Hendricks (Lions), Keshav Maharaj (Dolphins), Pieter Malan (Cape Cobras), Aiden Markram (Titans), Zubayr Hamza (Cape Cobras), Anrich Nortje (Warriors), Dane Paterson (Cape Cobras), Andile Phehlukwayo (Dolphins), Vernon Philander (Cape Cobras), Dwaine Pretorius (Lions), Kagiso Rabada (Lions), Rudi Second (Warriors), Rassie van der Dussen (Lions) 

A-team match

Temba Bavuma (Lions), Nandre Burger (Cape Cobras), Theunis de Bruyn (Titans), Reeza Hendricks (Lions), Pieter Malan (Cape Cobras), Andile Phehlukwayo (Dolphins), Dane Piedt (Cape Cobras), Lutho Sipamla (Warriors), Glenton Stuurman (Warriors), Pite van Biljon (Knights), Kyle Verreynne (Cape Cobras)

So what have we got here:-

1   Temba Bavuma = who failed repeatedly in India and has a good batting record once in a Blue Moon,  

2   Elgar slightly better than Bavuma, since he has a good batting record twice in a blue moon

3   Beuran Hendriks - when last did he play an average game even on provincial level?

4   Pieter Malan - where is his brother Janneman - who has a better record than him

5   Dane Piett - has this guy not had enough failure records yet?

6   Somebody will have to get De Kock, Markram and Rabada to apply themselves more diligently t o play cricket

7   Where is Breetzke and Van Tonder in the "A-team"

Boucher must be careful,   The following statement will rule him out of favour with the tip expert on site Mozart:-

"When asked over the possibility of bringing back some of South Africa's lost talents in England, Boucher revealed that he'd love to strengthen the Proteas similar to how Rassie Erasmus transformed the Springboks.

"If you look at rugby, the way the Springboks won the World Cup, the experience they got from players playing overseas was invaluable," Boucher told reporters at Newlands on Saturday."

How dare he be that stupid to say such a positive thing about Erasmus???   

             

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2019, 17:12
#2
16 Dec 2019, 17:12#2
What a crap squad - nothing new and exciting in that lot Pathetic going nowhere
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2019, 19:18
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16 Dec 2019, 19:18#3

Dave

I would pick the following batsmen from that lot:-

1   Malan 

2   Edgar/Markram

3   Du Plessis

4   Hamza

5   Van Biljon

6   De Kock


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2019, 19:18
#4
16 Dec 2019, 19:18#4

Duplica te



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AJHPro3,183 posts
16 Dec 2019, 21:41
#5
16 Dec 2019, 21:41#5

How the hell could you overlook Bavuma, you are going to piss some one off bigtime.

Stand ready Mike.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Dec 2019, 23:57
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16 Dec 2019, 23:57#6
Hasn't Markram failed enough.....Amla at 50 would be better than this stiff.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2019, 00:58
#7
17 Dec 2019, 00:58#7

Shit donkey-brain is back with no brai n in is head.    Smith and Boucher have no say in team selection and they were given a poor squad at best and they have to accept it???''

All you come up is glorification of  Amla,  As far as I remember Amla retired from all formats of the game and to pine about a player that has show signs of deteriorating in performance over the 18 months before retirement is an exercise in futility.



    

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Dec 2019, 02:10
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17 Dec 2019, 02:10#8
Malan at 30 is a poor selection. It has to be Elgar and Markram Markram needs to get his shit together so bloody gifted but fuck knows what has happened to him of late It’s such a shit batting line up we have no hope in hell.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Dec 2019, 02:29
#9
17 Dec 2019, 02:29#9
The best we can do with this sad lot is Markram Elgar Bavuma Faf Hamza de Kock Andile Philander Maharaj Rabada Nortje
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2019, 06:52
#10
17 Dec 2019, 06:52#10

Dave

Should have checked - did not realize Malan is 30 years old already,   janneman is only 23 years old - he should have been the choice.    

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Dec 2019, 21:28
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17 Dec 2019, 21:28#11

Rudi Second - 30 yrs

Dale Patterson - 30yrs

Beuran Hendricks - 29yrs

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2019, 14:05
#12
18 Dec 2019, 14:05#12

Denny

Thanks - they have gone nowhere playing professional cricket for ten years and now they  suddenly are in the squad.   That is what I call real BS.   I would have taken youngsters like Breetzke, Janneman Malan  and  Van Tonder into the squad and start a real development programme.  

That is what I believe Boucher would aim at - but neither he nor Smith has any say in selections and  that is why I said there is no  signs of development of players without a drastic change in the way SAC is run.    

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 Dec 2019, 14:10
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18 Dec 2019, 14:10#13

Mike, are you serious?

Pite van Biljon is 33 years old.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2019, 18:32
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18 Dec 2019, 18:32#14
I think he means Rassie not van Biljon
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2019, 18:32
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18 Dec 2019, 18:32#15
Denny
I should have checked the ages of the players and did not,   Every time reference is made to a player - the shock gets worse,    How many of the players in the squad is over 28 years of age?  That means that when the next WC comes around they will be ready for cricket old age pension,   Bad news - it really is shocking,   The age distribution is as follows:-
*    23   -    1  player*    24   -    2  players*    25   -    2  players*    26   -    1  player*    29   -    4  players*    30  -     3  players*    32  -     1  player*    34  -     2  players
So 10 of the 16 players are 29 years old or older -  how he hell are they going to develop a future team under those circumstances?  I did not check the A-team - b ut te situation does nt look much better,
I am afraid that the story is sickening.  I was referring to the 20 year old Van Tonder who was  the SA captain in the Under 19 series in NZ - who was afterwards selected  as Captain of the Tournament team.    He bats at 3
Some of the Indian players in that tournament team is already playing international cricket for India.   That is the way how teams and players are developed,         
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2019, 19:08
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18 Dec 2019, 19:08#16
van Tonder not van Tinder van Tonder has a first class average of 47 much the same as Verreynne so why on earth are these two youngsters not invested in - instead we have 30 year olds Second and Malan in the squad - it’s pathetic As is the inclusion of utterly useless bowlers like Pretorious, Hendricks and Paterson Fuck me it’s a sad state of affairs Best of all is 33 year old van Biljon in the A side what a joke
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2019, 19:32
#17
18 Dec 2019, 19:32#17

Dave

Mozart will say the team of oldies are selected on merit - I won't.   I cannot understand why the selection is not done by Smith and Boucher - I think they are being thrown under a bus - if not successful they will get the blame,

   Why the hell did they give credibility to the idiots at SAC?

     


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2019, 19:39
#18
18 Dec 2019, 19:39#18

My team would have been as follows:-

Markram 

Janneman Malan

Van Tonder

Du Plessis

Breetzke

De Kock

Hlehlukwayo

Rabada

Maharaj

Nortje

Ngidi/Sipamla


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Dec 2019, 20:33
#19
18 Dec 2019, 20:33#19
Breetzke has a disappointing first class average of 20 something which is not good enough. I saw him playing for the SA u19 side a few years ago and he looked really good so it’s disappointing to see his average being so low
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2019, 23:06
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18 Dec 2019, 23:06#20

Breetzke was very good in the recent Mzanzi series and is still very young and could improve with more experience and better coaching,    He is only 20 years of age and his batting average is just about 30.   He played in 17 first class matches and batted in 29 innings scoring 732 runs,   A lot of room for improvement available.          

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Dec 2019, 00:37
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19 Dec 2019, 00:37#21
With that average he has plenty to do before he can be considered for international cricket
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2019, 01:07
#22
19 Dec 2019, 01:07#22

I can assure you of one thing - he would not be any wo rse than some of the other clowns in the squad already, 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2019, 01:17
#23
19 Dec 2019, 01:17#23

Mike

Have you considered sending the list with the players' ages to CSA? I bet it wasn't a consideration when they made their dumb selections.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Dec 2019, 01:37
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19 Dec 2019, 01:37#24
I can’t begin to imagine that Smith and Boucher are the kind of personalities who are happy to be dictated to. Not having the freedom to select the players of their choice must be something that will be short lived It’s an archaic system having the squad selected by a bunch of ignorant twats
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2019, 02:03
#25
19 Dec 2019, 02:03#25

It's a squad targeting quota selections. Under the current circumstances the useless selection committee should be aborted, instead, the selection of all squads should be made by the ANCparlaimentary sports committee.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Dec 2019, 02:49
#26
19 Dec 2019, 02:49#26
Malan and Second are 30 year old whites though as is useless Pretorious and the not so useless Rassie
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2019, 03:07
#27
19 Dec 2019, 03:07#27

Dave there are younger players available and my guess is that they are white hence my above comment. But that aside I think the point is that there's no hope in hell they can build a squad with the WC in mind with an aged group. Madness mate, friggin madness. At this point in time and with the WC in mind it is better to invest in younger players who show potential.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Dec 2019, 14:11
#28
19 Dec 2019, 14:11#28

Denny

It is no use sending a list giving the age of players to CSA - so I send an e-mail on the issue to the SA Cricket Association,  They are CSA most difficult problem and I am sure they will do something about it,  

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Dec 2019, 00:11
#29
20 Dec 2019, 00:11#29
Agreed Denny it’s so short sighted Let’s hope Smith and Boucher change things If they can’t no one will
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Dec 2019, 08:50
#30
20 Dec 2019, 08:50#30

Bavuma out of the first test with a muscle strain - what now?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Dec 2019, 21:24
#31
20 Dec 2019, 21:24#31
Means Hamza and Rassie will play
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