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Mozart

St op your utter BS - are you besotted with De Kock?    He scored the fourth highest number of runs in the series including  also the Aussies -  but you carry on ad infinitum about him,    What is wrong with you stooge? 

What about replacing Amla - he was a serious flop since his hand-eye co-ordination is gone - but not a word from you?   Is it because he is over-the-hill because of his age - thus fitting  in with your mania about older sportsmen?      

Accept it - De Kock is one of the best wk's  in world cricket and recognized  as such by experts  and  your constant rants are meaningless and a waste of space on this site. 

Mozart

What are you talking about dimness?    Do you know the WC is based on ODI's not tests and that run rate is important in ODI's?  

You wrote about the Indian tests  series where we know DE Kock was out of form - but was Amla any better - not really,   But then lets see what happened in  Amla's case in the 6 ODI's he played in,   In the six ODI games he played in he made 163 runs at an average of 27 runs per ODI,   However, where his failure was - he used up 304 balls  to make the runs at a run rate of 3,21 rpo - which  happens to be totally unacceptable,

The problem you face is that Amla went backwards in the Aussie series and where he did make some runs he was in fact out 3 times when he was saved by the umpire not giving him out  LBW and when the balls in fact would have hit the stumps.   He was poor and slow in the tests and even the Aussie commentator said his hand-eye co-ordination is gone.

There is no chance that Amla will make the WC next year and that is a fact.   Another fact is that Klaasen may get into the squad - but not as WK.   However, that depends on another issue and that is there are other over-the-hill duds in the ODI squad - like Duminy.  Watch out for Wiaan Muller coming through as an all-rounder in that format of the game.   He is only 19 years old - but clearly groomed by Gibson to bring him into the squad for the WC as an all=rounder.

Incidentally since Markram is contracted to play English club cricket in England, Klaasen has been contracted by Rajasthan Royals to play T20 cricket in the IPL after the withdrawal of Smith.   Time will tell whether he will be better in that series than De Kock.

Back to the ODI WC next year - I think the team may look like te following next year:-

1   De Kock

2   Markram

3   Du Plessis

4   De Villiers

5   Miller

6   Klaasen

7   Muller

8   Steyn

9   Sharma/Maharaj

10  Rabada

11  Ngidi

That will leave the team short of the quota target - so the position of Miller and Steyn will become questionable as well and they may be replaced by players of colour,   There are very few quality batsmen in ODI's from which to choose - but Behardien  might be chosen to replace Miller and  a player like Hendricks to replace Steyn.   However, Gibson may go for Morris as a bowling all-rounder as well.

Mozart can you read English at all - I said it is likely that Miller will be omitted.   However. you missed info all the time.   De Kock is still ranked 8 in world cricket as an ODI player.    As am opener he is ranked 3rd - so your meaningless and ignorant  attacks on him is constant BS.     

Mozart can you read English at all - I said it is likely that Miller will be omitted.   However. you missed info all the time.   De Kock is still ranked 8 in world cricket as an ODI player.    He used to be 6m but played ij only two ODI's since October last year.   AB us at 2 and Faf at 9 - Amla does not feature in the top 10 at all .   As am opener De Kock is ranked 3rd - so your meaningless and ignorant  attacks on him is constant BS.     

@ Mike

Mike it was actually Holding and Smith who spoke about it.

They said exactly what I said a year ago on here and again recently.

Firstly that once over thirty it become a bit harder to react. Holding spoke about this.

Secondly they discussed bat speed and strength. 

The verdict was that with reduced reflexes and bat speed it becomes essential to do gym work and strengthen the arms. Then to also modify technique so to not rely on shots that require a lot of bat speed.

In other words Amla needs to get stronger and play straighter, in the V.

His days of flashing beautifully through the off-side are over. 

Have you picked up a bat recently? Alma has very skinny arms and zero shoulders. Trying to play as late as he does, which is a good thing, is ever more difficult as muscles lose intensity.

Plum

As per normal you are 100% correct in your assessment.

I cannot see how Amla  at the age of 35 will be bale to make the physical adjustment you referred to .   I think that Gibson – a West Indies expert where positive batting is a high priority will in the longer term accept the kind of batting in ODI’s that happened in the Amla case against the Indicans.

Amla may still survive in test  cricket for a while – but I suspect that he would withdraw himelf from ODI cricket over the next six months.      

The problem for Amla is that even if decides sort that stuff out, he will be minus one dimension to his game. Thus making him easier to bowl to and to get out.

Make no mistake, he is one of the greatest we've ever produced.

In terms of temperament and personality, probably our best of all time.

His contribution since the start has been nothing but positive and a guy like that in a dressing room is worth his weight in any precious metal a hundred times over.

He won't be easily replaced, if ever.

Plum

I agree whole-heartedly with you about Amla - about his qualities and contribution to the team - in many was it reminds me of what Kohli said about AB after an IPL match last year.  He said - "AB is the best batsman in the world - but he is even a better human being than a cricketer "

However, there is unfortunately one aspect of human life that happens to all of us and that is that as we grow older we cannot do what we were capable of in our twenties and ultimately it catches up with  all of us - especially also with sportsmen.  

I have been seeing signs of weakness starting to show slowly in Amla's ODO batting.   Amla used t have a batting average of 5,46 rpo. against England it cane down to 4,77 rpo and against India it was just about 2 rpo - the latter figure be totally unacceptable on international level for an opening batsman.

The same very poor run rate was also visible in the tests against the Indians  where his batting was o average unacceptable as well and he was poor in the Aussie tests.

That is the r eason why I feel that his ODI career is nearing its end rapidly  

Like you have been going for De Kock for five years because they dared to replace Smith with him and for no reason at all.    

Every time you produce fresh unproven BS and that kept out coming up all the time.

There is one issue here and that is that Amla  always was a slow starter in  ODI's  and towards the end picked up his batting tempo.   I felt that he would do better batting at three wen he would be able to bat faster from the start,   I never suggested till now that he should be dropped from the ODI squad - but in the last two important series he stopped making enough  runs and his tempo went down and never improved later in series,

He always was excellent in tests bar in the last two series where he could not make runs to save himself,   That is when commentators started pointing out what is going wrong with his batting.  Plum in his posting in fact confirmed what they said about Amla's recent batting problems

I think that Amla in the interest of the team should retire from ODI's - he can as an opening batter be replaced by Markram.     Another potential opener is Erwee - but he is a left-hander and it is important that there is a variation at the start.        

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Caught lying about what BSter?

Balls - unlike your denigration rants against De Kock = my suggestion was that in my opinion that Amla should be batting at 3 does not represent lack of anything and was made to enhance his early batting at a higher rate.  

Lots of BS again and where you got that from only you would know.  There was one incident in the semi where the ball bounced badly and De Kock missed the catch.  Are you crazy or something - at this stage De Kock is regarded as the top wicketkeeper in the world,

Sorry - but you are foolish and all that because of prejudice,  Get over it and start being objective,

By the way - De Kock was out-of-form in the Indian series - but never as bad as Graeme Smith was for two years running before he was dropped from the Proteas squad and never a word of criticism came out of you about it - hence my request for objectivity in this instance.