Duminy is not suitable as the fifth bowler and they MUST bring in a fifth bowler and get rid of De Kock.
Duminy - 9 overs - 29 runs and the first hattrick any SA bowler ever took in any WC match. That must be upsetting our two dunces massively.
So what do Mozart and Ceradyne know about cricket? I think less than they know about rugby and their knowledge of rugby is so far sub-standard - it is unbelievable.
Mike
You might not be aware of Duminy doing an interview during the break and in that interview he made mention of the fact that his bowling had been poor up until today's game.....but I reckon you would have known that???
In my reckoning Duminy was stating the obvious...dontcha think Hmmm?
Mike you are laboring your point.....it's like your life depends on me believing you.
Tell you what, take a break from the board.....try to lose the obsession.......it will do you the world of good.
Don't expect any changes on your return.
I am very happy with the unexpected performance from De Kock. Hope he can continue with this, otherwise today's performance would be seen as a flash in the pan effort.
There is no reason in the world that a part time bowler cant bowl 10 over you profoundly stupid man.
We all know JP is a not a specialist bowler, no-one ever said he was so once again you are exposing yourself for the dunce you are. Kindly point out where I said he was a specialist bowler.
I have said he is better than a part timer and more than capable of bowling 10.......we all know he is a specialist bat who is a handy off spinner.
Why do I think he can do the job as a spinner.......for the simple reason that his bowling technique is spot on for a spinner as is his flight and the little turn he gets. His action and technique is better than Phangiso, the specialist spinner in the squad.
Exposed once again.....drum roll
The point was NEVER about JP's form it was about whether he was good enough to bowl 10 overs, which of course he is. There were a few muppets who said he was not good enough to bowl 10. Case closed.
Same applies to de Kock, as Hussey said in commentary, he does not buy into this whole lack of form crap.......class is permanent, form temporary.
In fact JP was hardly out of form.....against Pakistan, he was targeted by an opening bat with his eye in, who happened to hit him for three 6's in a row on a tiny field. Those 3 balls were not bad balls.
The difference between me and Moz, Vlag and co is that I know what I am talking about - they dont
Yep I saw it all.....he spoke of the fact that he was not bowling that well......that was never the issue, the issue was whether he was good enough to bowl 10 which I have always maintained he is.
JP in fact was being a little hard on himself when you think that against Pakistan he was targeted by an opening bat with his eye in, who hit him for three 6's on a tiny field. Those 3 balls were not bad balls but they fucked his figures up.
Its cricket and JP will of course get smacked around again.....that's life.......but my assertion is that the guy has a career average of just over 5 per over......and has a good bowling technique......therefore without doubt he is good enough to bowl 10.
When we were bowling Peterson as our test bowler, I said that JP was better and should have been used as our prime spinner.......I would not say the same about Tahir.
Yeah I recall your comparison and Peterson turned out to have slightly better stats than JP but we conceded that this would be the case given the number of overs Peterson had bowled versus the part time stuff JP has mostly bowled.
As for 5 po, that is pretty reasonable for your 5th bowler in ODI's and you will find that JP goes for about 0.5 more per over than many of the specialist spinners in the WC.
I published all the spin bowlers stats on here who were involved in this WC, where JP's rpo and strike rate was much the same as the majority, including those used as specialist spinners.
It was while retrieving these stats that I realised how good Tahir is in ODI's, he is miles ahead of any other spinner in the WC in terms of strike rate etc.
The guy deserves more credit than he gets.....he is a strike bowler of note.
My main point re JP and some of the very average spinners we have picked as specialists, was that JP was just as good as them and therefore we should not be wasting our time with the likes of Peterson, Phasingo etc.
Hamer looks a better bet at test level and Tahir is our specialist in ODI's although sadly he is now 35.
Yeah I recall your comparison and Peterson turned out to have slightly better stats than JP but we conceded that this would be the case given the number of overs Peterson had bowled versus the part time stuff JP has mostly bowled.
As for 5 po, that is pretty reasonable for your 5th bowler in ODI's and you will find that JP goes for about 0.5 more per over than many of the specialist spinners in the WC.
I published all the spin bowlers stats on here who were involved in this WC, where JP's rpo and strike rate was much the same as the majority, including those used as specialist spinners.
It was while retrieving these stats that I realised how good Tahir is in ODI's, he is miles ahead of any other spinner in the WC in terms of strike rate etc.
The guy deserves more credit than he gets.....he is a strike bowler of note.
My main point re JP and some of the very average spinners we have picked as specialists, was that JP was just as good as them and therefore we should not be wasting our time with the likes of Peterson, Phasingo etc.
Hamer looks a better bet at test level and Tahir is our specialist in ODI's although sadly he is now 35.
The difference is that I did not rate Peterson at all as a bowler, he should never have played for SA.
His stats might be slightly better than JP's for instance, but that is down to sheer volume of bowling and being a specialist.
Its a mark of how average he was given he is only marginally better than JP a part timer.
But we are in agreement........I think JP is good enough to be an all rounder and yes he will not always bowl 10 overs as on some days he will travel.......that's a given for most off spinners.
But I'd back to get through 10 in most games........and that has been my point from day one.....levelled more at Moz who said he had concerns about JP bowling 10. He said he was not good enough.......I have disagreed on this all along.