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Unlike G. Smith QDK was no bowlers bunny

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Jan 2023, 04:50
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02 Jan 2023, 04:50#1

just don't try telling that to the hate filled Twat.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 05:29
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02 Jan 2023, 05:29#2

Quinton de Kock has scored 20 runs in his last four international innings.

All four of those times, the Proteas’ talented keeper-batsman has been dismissed by Jeetan Patel, New Zealand’s veteran off-spinner.

It’s pretty obvious he might have a mental block against him going into Thursday’s second Test in Wellington.

……Bunny!
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Jan 2023, 05:42
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02 Jan 2023, 05:42#3

Funny how you forgot this one....

Quinton de Kock gets one back on nemesis Jeetan Patel as duel goes South Africa's way at Basin Reserve

When Quinton de Kock strode onto the Basin Reserve with his South Africa team reeling at 94-6, there was only one bowler he expected to face.

"I knew straightaway. If I bat three overs I knew they would bring on Jeetan [Patel]. I was looking forward to the battle again," he said.

And why wouldn't New Zealand captain Kane Williamson? In four duels across the final two one-day internationals and the first test in Dunedin, Patel had dismissed South Africa's wicketkeeper for 0, 6, 10 and 4.

And it was 36-year-old Patel's much awaited first test at his beloved home turf, 11 years since his debut. An expectant buzz filtered across the sun-drenched outfield as the wily offspinner was summoned.

Boom. De Kock had been advised by his captain Faf du Plessis not to over-think the situation. And with an average of 47 from 17 tests, and reputation as a power hitter, he only knew one way as his feet got moving.

"I've played against so many offies in my life, I know Jeetan is a good bowler and does have me four our four but I knew I could get on top of him if I get my head down. It happened today, luckily, and it was nice to get one over him.

"Going into bat we knew the pressure was on us. The mindset was somehow to switch the pressure back onto them, didn't want to get bogged down and the only way I knew was to play my natural game. I was a bit more aggressive than usual."

The end result was game-changing. De Kock slayed 91 off 118 balls, clearing the rope three times, and reining himself in when New Zealand set the bouncer trap. He had some edgy early moments against Patel, who lacked pitch assistance as early as day two, then charged and clouted him for a memorable straight six nearly into the dressing rooms.

By stumps on day two, South Africa led by 81 at 349-9, after de Kock and Temba Bavuma put on 160 for the seventh wicket.

With a handy lead South Africa are in the box seat and de Kock was confident they could finish the job. Particularly with Morne Morkel fired up after being struck on the helmet by Tim Southee late in the day. "Hopefully tomorrow he'll steam in and get us a couple of early wickets."

The gloveman felt New Zealand didn't bowl that badly, with Neil Wagner and Colin de Grandhomme snaring three wickets apiece.

"There was a little bit in the wicket in the morning but I felt when I walked they were trying to get us out quickly which gave us opportunities to score. They still made life hard, had to do the business, and when they started bowling tight lines again it was difficult.

"There is still a bit in that wicket and hopefully it stays like that."



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 05:51
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02 Jan 2023, 05:51#4

So you agree Patel was his nemesis….amazing how you just walk into these haymakers.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 06:03
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02 Jan 2023, 06:03#5

Grahame Smith/de Ock

Tests….48.25/38.82

ODIs…..37.98/45.57

T20Is….31.67/32.17

Average across all formats

39.30 vs 38.85 in favor of Smith. And a big lead in tests. So much for Ock being better than Smith. Suck on that lemon.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Jan 2023, 06:07
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02 Jan 2023, 06:07#6

so much for Ock being better than Smith

Point me to where I've said QDK is better than Smith....go on Liar I'm all ears.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 06:57
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02 Jan 2023, 06:57#7

Right in your headline Sciatic Susan…..you claim Smith is a bowler’s bunny and Ock isn’t.

Here’s the clincher….Ock’s WC average 29.6, Smith’s average 36.44…I bet you wish you hadn’t started this new string huh? 

You should just stop…you aren’t very good at this.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Jan 2023, 07:22
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02 Jan 2023, 07:22#8

Go to bed, it's 12am for the love of Mary. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jan 2023, 10:22
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02 Jan 2023, 10:22#9

Mozart

In his recent tests De Kock showed no interest in playing for the Proteas and he did not perform well at all.  He decided to rather quit playing for SA since cricket control in the country is a total political mess.

You started off by saying De Kock cannot play fast bwling - you then went on to say he cannot play spin bowling and then eh cannot play swing bowling - all about as valid as you could concoct in your concocted mind.   

Why have a debate on De Kock on this site anyway.   He is not going to play for SA in future and he has had very valid reasons for that decision.   Have you go any reason bar prejudice that you keep coming up with BS like you do in this case?        

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jan 2023, 15:49
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02 Jan 2023, 15:49#10
You can’t compare the test average of an opener afforded the luxury of building an innings with a keeper/bat batting at 6 and 7 who mostly had to bat with the tail and get a move on
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jan 2023, 16:26
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02 Jan 2023, 16:26#11

De Kock is a class test keeper who retired way to soon due to political meddling...he's still playing the shorter formats,  but clearly he's heart isn't init' no more...what a waste.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jan 2023, 17:03
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02 Jan 2023, 17:03#12
Major wasted talent but it must be hard trying to give it your all when merit never plays a part in the team you play for I’m guessing Boucher felt the same way when he chucked in the towel recently
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 17:27
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02 Jan 2023, 17:27#13

This is a guy who was made captain of the ODI side and couldn’t wait to shed that responsibility. He has been given every chance in South African cricket and now his underperformance is because he is a ‘victim’.

Utter nonsense. This man was the darling of the cricket world until he stupidly didn’t comply with taking the knee. It’s a hollow gesture but not complying when your team mates do is bound to make you a pariah. And so it was with de Kock.

I can fully understand why you might want to walk away from the mess….but why does that apply uniquely to de Kock and not to Elgar, Dussen, to du Plessis. It’s nonsense guys, when you are out there you are performing for yourself as well as the team. 

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AJHPro3,183 posts
02 Jan 2023, 18:07
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02 Jan 2023, 18:07#14

Sure I was disappointed to see QDK retire from test cricket.

Yes he had some failures with the bat and he also had some excellent innings with the bat.

But the pressure on the man to perform at every turn must also have been great when in fact his team depended on him to score big at each innings.

Politics in sport must surely have played yet another big part in his reason to quit Test cricket.

But thankfully he can still entertain us in the other forms of the game.

Dankie Q.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jan 2023, 18:14
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02 Jan 2023, 18:14#15
What underperformance are you talking about Moz The opposite applies to de Kock Your take on de Kock is about as accurate as your take on PSDT and de Allende
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jan 2023, 20:29
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02 Jan 2023, 20:29#16
All three have their strengths, but all three have been hopelessly overrated.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jan 2023, 21:10
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02 Jan 2023, 21:10#17
Disagree if you want over rated look no further than Martin Johnson, Itoje, Farrell, Morne Steyn and McCaw
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2023, 01:08
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03 Jan 2023, 01:08#18

If they were available I’d certainly look no further.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Jan 2023, 02:07
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03 Jan 2023, 02:07#19
Why am I not surprised
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jan 2023, 08:31
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03 Jan 2023, 08:31#20

"I’m guessing Boucher felt the same way when he chucked in the towel recently"

I have said this many times already...... there is a lot that happens behind closed doors tha t we know nothing about... which dictates what and who Boucher must pick to play at all times.

"But the pressure on the man to perform at every turn must also have been great when in fact his team depended on him to score big at each innings."

Especially when the team you are playing with is always mainly based on race and not performance.

"Politics in sport must surely have played yet another big part in his reason to quit Test cricket"

Yep, the knee issue was a big one

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Jan 2023, 08:55
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03 Jan 2023, 08:55#21

Your take on de Kock is about as accurate as  worse than your take on PSDT and de Allende

Fixed!

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Jan 2023, 09:01
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03 Jan 2023, 09:01#22

Politics in sport must surely have played yet another big part in his reason to quit Test cricket.

Totally agree.

QDK had my total support and respect on his knee stance........would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the ANC /CSA boardroom when the subject matter deep sixed them.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2023, 19:04
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03 Jan 2023, 19:04#23

He may have had your total support. Didn’t help much though because he immediately apologized and made whiny little excuses which actually empowered the take the knee crowd. Stupid.

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