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Another Trump attack on the working class

Started by Denny15 REPLIES864 VIEWS· 30 Mar 2025, 03:03
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 03:03
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30 Mar 2025, 03:03#1

President Donald Trump's latest attack on the working class was delivered in the form of an executive order late Thursday that seeks to strip the collective bargaining rights from hundreds of thousands of federal government workers, a move that labor rights advocates said is not only unlawful but once again exposes Trump's deep antagonism toward working people and their families.


The executive order by Trump says its purpose is to "enhance the national security of the United States," but critics say it's clear the president is hiding behind such a claim as a way to justify a broadside against collective bargaining by the public workforce and to intimidate workers more broadly.

"President Trump's latest executive order is a disgraceful and retaliatory attack on the rights of hundreds of thousands of patriotic American civil servants—nearly one-third of whom are veterans—simply because they are members of a union that stands up to his harmful policies," said Everett Kelley, president of the 820,000-member American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), the nation's largest union of federal workers.

"The labor movement is not about to let Trump and an un-elected billionaire destroy what we’ve fought for generations to build. We will fight this outrageous attack on our members with every fiber of our collective being." —Liz Shuler, AFL-CIO

The far-reaching order, which cites the 1978 Civil Service Reform Act as the source of his presidential authority, goes way beyond restricting collective bargaining and union representation at agencies with a national security mandate but instead tries to ensnare dozens of federal agencies and classifications of federal workers who work beyond that scope.

According to the Associated Press, the intent of the order "appears to touch most of the federal government."

AFL-CIO president, Liz Shuler, responded with disgust to the order, pointing out that the move comes directly out of the pre-election blueprint of the Heritage Foundation, which has been planning this kind of attack against the federal workforce and collective bargaining for years, if not decades.

"Straight out of Project 2025, this executive order is the very definition of union-busting," said Schuler in a Thursday night statement. "It strips the fundamental right to unionize and collectively bargain from workers across the federal government at more than 30 agencies. The workers who make sure our food is safe to eat, care for our veterans, protect us from public health emergencies and much more will no longer have a voice on the job or the ability to organize with their coworkers for better conditions at work so they can efficiently provide the services the public relies upon."


Shuler said the order is clearly designed as "punishment for unions who are leading the fight against the administration's illegal actions in court—and a blatant attempt to silence us."

The White House practically admitted as much, saying in a statement that "Trump supports constructive partnerships with unions who work with him; he will not tolerate mass obstruction that jeopardizes his ability to manage agencies with vital national security missions." In effect, especially with a definition of "national security" that encompasses a vast majority of all government functions and agencies, the president has told an estimated two-thirds of government workers they are no longer allowed to disagree with or obstruct his efforts as they organize to defend their jobs or advocate for better working conditions.

Describing the move as "bullying tactics" by Trump and his administration, Kelley said the order represents "a clear threat not just to federal employees and their unions, but to every American who values democracy and the freedoms of speech and association. Trump’s threat to unions and working people across America is clear: fall in line or else."


"These threats will not work. Americans will not be intimidated or silenced. AFGE isn't going anywhere. Our members have bravely served this nation, often putting themselves in harm’s way, and they deserve far better than this blatant attempt at political punishment," he added.

Both AFGE and the AFL-CIO said they would fight the order tooth and nail on behalf of federal workers—and all workers—who have a right to collective bargaining and not to be intimidated for organizing their workplaces, whether in the public or private sector.

"To every single American who cares about the fundamental freedom of all workers, now is the time to be even louder," said Shuler. "The labor movement is not about to let Trump and an un-elected billionaire destroy what we've fought for generations to build. We will fight this outrageous attack on our members with every fiber of our collective being."


Kelley said AFGE was "preparing immediate legal action" in response to Trump's order and vowed to "fight relentlessly to protect our rights, our members, and all working Americans from these unprecedented attacks."


https://www.alternet.org/trump-wokers/

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When it comes to Trump it's another case of I told you so.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Mar 2025, 08:56
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30 Mar 2025, 08:56#2

"he will not tolerate mass obstruction that jeopardizes his ability to manage agencies with vital national security missions."

Like that everywhere, even in corrupt South Africa.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 09:50
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30 Mar 2025, 09:50#3

Like that everywhere

Really?

Hell, I must be blind, don't see it happening in Oz, NZ and Canada just to name a few.


But go ahead correct if I'm wrong.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Mar 2025, 10:42
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30 Mar 2025, 10:42#4

Okay Denny, so where is the Democratic leadership that's going to turn this around? Who have you got? Harris, AOC, Newsom? We know Bernie won't do shit except shout from the sidelines. Waltz has already become a parody, a bitter old tough talker in the De Niro mould. What's America got to look forward to from the other side if they get fed up of Trump?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Mar 2025, 11:12
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30 Mar 2025, 11:12#5

"Like that everywhere

Really?

Hell, I must be blind, don't see it happening in Oz, NZ and Canada just to name a few."


When last did the police, health sector or any essential services strike in any of those countries?...there are other ways of collective bargaining...what's make you so sure this is abnormal draconian overreach, other than your obsessive hatred for Trump?...and what he supposedly stands for?



PS...you are actually blind to a lot of things.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 12:23
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30 Mar 2025, 12:23#6

PS...you are actually blind to a lot of things.


So are you.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 12:28
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30 Mar 2025, 12:28#7

When last did the police, health sector or any essential services strike in any of those countries?...

Actually our health sector went out not so long ago........

What you don't know and understand is that our systems work but sometimes there's a failing and unions out as they always have.

Give it a rest mate, your hero is never wrong not to you and your kind but if he were you'd never admit to it.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 12:39
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30 Mar 2025, 12:39#8

Okay Denny, so where is the Democratic leadership that's going to turn this around? Who have you got? Harris, AOC, Newsom? We know Bernie won't do shit except shout from the sidelines. Waltz has already become a parody, a bitter old tough talker in the De Niro mould. What's America got to look forward to from the other side if they get fed up of Trump?

Good question. Firstly I'm not a party man, I've mentioned it a couple of times so you can 100% rule me out as a Dem supporter. Secondly I see the Dem's going round and round with no clear direction.

In a nutshell the Dem's are damn hopeless, they lack leadership and direction and are not in the position they should be to take on Trump.

Harris is a pretender, Biden came upon by accident, there was no-one else.

Trump huh....well my opinion of him has not changed since Day 1, I still find him repulsive and I think the GOP leadership is disgusting.

Hope that satisfies, I'm not into long sermons.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2025, 13:28
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30 Mar 2025, 13:28#9

Denny

I agree with you about the issue of the DP leadership or lack thereof.- even the New York Tmes said the Part has gone to far in ulta-leftist pursuit. They needed mre centrist policies,


Biden was shit as President from day one and did massive damage to the USA and its people. The main problems is he did not know what is happening and was so bad that a specialist in Altzheinmers visited the WH once a monh to treat him. Biden workday was 4 h ours a day lasting from Mondays to Thursdays and he ended up never meeing with his cabinet - eg he never met with his Treasury and Defense Secretaries for 8 months, So who was running the country while hew as President? Nobody knows/


Starting under Bush Junior the Public Service became the power actually controlling the country, The Public Servants became part of massive maladministration and corruption, The standard of Service delivered were atrocious - and that says it all - eg the USA are ranked 40 in resepect of quality of education in State schools.- but no 1 in the world spend on education per child. America is the most unhealthy country in the world and that is caused by shit levels of operation in the Health Department, all Departments according to audit reports cannot account on what trillions of $'s was spent. So how do anybody deal with Trade Union when the need to implement AI in the management of Government Departments and maintain acceptable levels of Management when the Public Service is in chaos?


The Federal Government must be cleaned up and corruption and maladministration is eliminated before the Unions can be consulted on anything.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Mar 2025, 14:48
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30 Mar 2025, 14:48#10

Well then Denny, this is what you get when you don't give people any viable alternative.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Mar 2025, 14:59
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30 Mar 2025, 14:59#11

Denise "Kamala is my girl"


Also Denise "Harris is a pretender"



AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
30 Mar 2025, 15:42
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30 Mar 2025, 15:42#12

Denny just to keep you updated.

The Canadian political landscape under the Liberals is one massive corrupt government from any point of view.

A carbon tax of 8% on gas that brings in Billions of Dollars and is squandered is just a simple example.


The past PM had to resigned under pressure for illegally profiteering and is under water legally for other financial activity.


The Trump presidency has uncovered vast fraud and illegal distribution of Billions of dollars in just a three month investigation thus far with deep roots in the past Biden fiasco as well as going back into Obama and Clinton's times in the White House.


The real shock as to the level of corruption and theft is about to be exposed once they audit Fort Knox.


Stay tuned.


FOUR MORE YEARS.



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Mar 2025, 18:28
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30 Mar 2025, 18:28#13

So AJ, tell me.......would you be happy for Canada to become an American state?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2025, 21:39
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30 Mar 2025, 21:39#14

Denny


There was no reason given for the forced resignation as Prime Minister and leader of the Liberal Party it must have been fully reported that the departure relates to corruption. The probem is that corruption starting on political level filters down into the Public Service that adds to the ever-expantion of the coruption "infrastructure", That is what happened under successive Presidents over he past 30 years in the USA - and becsame even worse under the Biden Puppet Presidency. Hunter Biden even attend meetings where important Government decisiobns was taken. That is why Biden was instructed by Hunter to sign all those "pardons were signed with an auto-pen. Biden was mostly not aware of what he signed anyway. Biden apparently was given pills to bolste his thinking ability for a while - so hen eh was asked why he change the sentences of multiple murderers he denied that he signed anything like that, So who used h auto-pen in that case?


There must be one thing crstal clear by now and that is that Trump was fully aware of corruption in both Canada and the USA and that Government corruption is endemic in both Canada and the USA. From that perspective Canada might as well be the 51st State in the USA. Why Trudeau went to Trump/s home in December is not clear, Both he and Trump knew Trudeau hmslf knows he was on his way out and not on behalf of Canada negotiate anything, Trump treated him as a joke and the 51st state story started, What Trump apparenly did not know was the level and scope of corruption in the USA on both political and bureaucratic level. It actuall involved Trillionms of dollars for which the Federal Govenment had to borrow Trillions to keep afloat, The ohr problem that also lead to relationship problems that the ultra-corrupt Governments allowed to happen which heavily favored Canada. For instance timber was impoted from Canada - while in the USA trees could not be cut down in term of the Green Policies prescribed to Biden by Gates, A really weird situation that could be regarded as dministration as one issue and corruption being the other issue, Uranium trade is also a major problem and that one was hushed up by a certain Special Council investigation led by Mueller, Books have been written about that issue and was prved to be factual were provided, In short Tosatrum - a Russian State owned firm - broought the majoirty share of Uranium I - a firm that control 20% of the USA strategic Uranium resiouces, Under Bide the situation developed where Uranium was mind in teh USA and taken by vehicle to Canada - rom where it cvanished into thin air - final recipient being Russia,- that while Russia was under US sanctions.because of the Ukraine War,


The sht situation weakened the image of the USA in many and ountries in the world and even in Europe - hich benefitted he E contries and in the UK. The leftist media feared and hated Trump bycause they beneoied from Govenment spendig and kept secret as a result.


In the end all countries bar the Germans wants Trump to negoitiate a peace deal on teh Ukraine issue and the exception is Germany that under the Socialists meddled in EU ekections and he USA thought that type of thing is basically illegal and undemocratic and i resulted in a spat involving Vance, That was a strategy used by the USA against Trump and that caused Vanc to accuse Germany of doing the same and forced Romania to try and arrest the most popular political leader to be arrested and charged like the DP did in the case of Trump.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
31 Mar 2025, 02:10
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31 Mar 2025, 02:10#15

just another Shitory.....


next

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
31 Mar 2025, 22:11
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31 Mar 2025, 22:11#16

Arfur, answer Denny's question please

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