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A man of substance, a man of dignity and integrity.....Respect!

Started by Denny42 REPLIES766 VIEWS· 14 Apr 2020, 02:39
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Apr 2020, 02:39
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14 Apr 2020, 02:39#1

Anthony S. Fauci, M.D.


Dr. Fauci was appointed director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies. The NIAID budget for fiscal year 2020 is an estimated $5.9 billion.

Dr. Fauci has advised six presidents on HIV/AIDS and many other domestic and global health issues. He was one of the principal architects of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), a program that has saved millions of lives throughout the developing world.

Dr. Fauci also is the longtime chief of the Laboratory of Immunoregulation. He has made many contributions to basic and clinical research on the pathogenesis and treatment of immune-mediated and infectious diseases. He helped pioneer the field of human immunoregulation by making important basic scientific observations that underpin the current understanding of the regulation of the human immune response. In addition, Dr. Fauci is widely recognized for delineating the precise ways that immunosuppressive agents modulate the human immune response. He developed effective therapies for formerly fatal inflammatory and immune-mediated diseases such as polyarteritis nodosa, granulomatosis with polyangiitis (formerly Wegener's granulomatosis), and lymphomatoid granulomatosis. A 1985 Stanford University Arthritis Center Survey of the American Rheumatism Association membership ranked Dr. Fauci’s work on the treatment of polyarteritis nodosa and granulomatosis with polyangiitis among the most important advances in patient management in rheumatology over the previous 20 years.

Dr. Fauci has made seminal contributions to the understanding of how HIV destroys the body's defenses leading to its susceptibility to deadly infections. Further, he has been instrumental in developing treatments that enable people with HIV to live long and active lives. He continues to devote much of his research to the immunopathogenic mechanisms of HIV infection and the scope of the body's immune responses to HIV.

In a 2019 analysis of Google Scholar citations, Dr. Fauci ranked as the 41st most highly cited researcher of all time. According to the Web of Science, he ranked 8th out of more than 2.2 million authors in the field of immunology by total citation count between 1980 and January 2019.?

Dr. Fauci has delivered major lectures all over the world and is the recipient of numerous prestigious awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the highest honor given to a civilian by the President of the United States), the National Medal of Science, the George M. Kober Medal of the Association of American Physicians, the Mary Woodard Lasker Award for Public Service, the Albany Medical Center Prize in Medicine and Biomedical Research, the Robert Koch Gold Medal, the Prince Mahidol Award, and the Canada Gairdner Global Health Award.  He also has received 45 honorary doctoral degrees from universities in the United States and abroad.

Dr. Fauci is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Medicine, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society, as well as other professional societies including the American College of Physicians, the American Society for Clinical Investigation, the Association of American Physicians, the Infectious Diseases Society of America, the American Association of Immunologists, and the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology. He serves on the editorial boards of many scientific journals; as an editor of Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine; and as author, coauthor, or editor of more than 1,300 scientific publications, including several textbooks.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:19
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14 Apr 2020, 17:19#2

The guardian at the gate who told America at the end of February there was nothing to worry about.....the man who totally failed to see the threat until it was actually playing out in real time.

If anybody failed the country and the world in this crisis, it was Dr Fauci.....the more so because of his inflated reputation.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:24
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14 Apr 2020, 17:24#3

He now called his utterings a mistake and did enough damage to be fired for incompetence,  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:31
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14 Apr 2020, 17:31#4

I’m not saying he wasn’t trying his best....but he was dead wrong. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:34
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14 Apr 2020, 17:34#5

Mozart

Sorry I disagree - dead wrong experts deserve the chop. LOL   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:34
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14 Apr 2020, 17:34#6

Mozart

Sorry I disagree - dead wrong experts deserve the chop. LOL   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:49
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14 Apr 2020, 17:49#7

Everybody makes mistakes Mike. In this instance the Chinese were suppressing information and the WHO was complicit. So there are some mitigating circumstances.

Firing Fauci now will probably not improve our response to the virus, his reputation adds gravitas to any recommendation. And if he’s fired the media will cook it up into a Trump issue in no time. Trump is on the case doing a good job after a few early mistakes and some important early contributions.


Better to leave things alone now, Fauci’s role will diminish as the focus turns to restarting the economy.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Apr 2020, 20:43
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14 Apr 2020, 20:43#8


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Apr 2020, 20:49
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14 Apr 2020, 20:49#9

Not sure why you are ignoring Dr  Fauci's connection to Bill eugenucist Gates (and his mandatory vaccine regime) that is now well documented.

The guy has been dead wrong from beginning to end. The USA has acted on false information and now 17 million have no jobs. How much of that was necessary?

I would like Fauci, Birx, Gates, WHO and China all investigated. 

I suspect it all will be in due course. Let's see what happens.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Apr 2020, 20:50
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14 Apr 2020, 20:50#10

Dense of course has no clue whatsoever. Consistently WRONG. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2020, 07:55
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15 Apr 2020, 07:55#11
I’m with Moz on Fauci. I’m also not comfortable with his support for the empty head in charge of the WHO but he’s been good in his job for decades. He strictly sticks to the science and there is no place for gut feel and instinct in his world, which is Trump’s forte. Sometimes you just need such a push and pull combination. I’m fine with Dr Birx as well. And then... Cloudy/Trump is no different than Mike/Steyn.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 08:26
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15 Apr 2020, 08:26#12

Mike

We've known each other for a long time, decades, we're not the greatest of friends but we do respect each other. The couple of times we met were special moments, dinner in Coogee looking out over the ocean was special......memorable. We spoke about things but never once made mention of the website or other posters. Someone once said never to measure distances travelled, travel should be measured in friends made. We've had our disagreements but through it all you've never insulted me, you've never U Turned on me even though I've haven't always been as kind to you as I should have been. My apologies.

So on that basis I'm responding to you and to you only on your above thread. The Jihadi is a Fruitcake and a total waste of space so he doesn't command my respect. One other is readily ignored.

My post has nothing to do with Dr Fauci's "utterings" as you call it,  it has to do with his prestigious credentials. 

Read my post again.

I've made no comment for or against on his so called "utterings" but in your neurotic fervour you've jumped to Obese Donnie's protection and in the process you claim that Dr Fauci is wrong and that he should be dismissed.

Mike, pull your head in, you have the wrong address. There is a post further down the track written by Sharkbok that deals with Dr Fauci's comments. 

I repeat, mine doesn't as I note your vigorous and neurotic defence of the classless hillbilly.

Have a lie down if it helps and let's hope we're still friends when Trump's reign ends.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2020, 08:49
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15 Apr 2020, 08:49#13

“ Posted by: Cloudy (8220 posts)

Apr 15, 2020, 08:27

If we went with only feel and instinct we’d all be dead.“

OK, let me repeat myself. Hopefully I can make it stick this time.

 “Sometimes you just need such a push and pull combination. I’m fine with Dr Birx as well”.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Apr 2020, 09:12
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15 Apr 2020, 09:12#14

I think the problem with Dr  Fauci is in a way the company he keeps.   He apparently was on a photo which included Soros, Tedros, Gates and a few other people with dubious records when it comes to health issues,   Gates has his own problems with vaccinations in a lot of countries as mentioned in another thread,  He has been kicked out of operating in some countries because of side effects of forced vaccinations he pressed governments to implement and is not the philanthropist he claimed he is.    He made billions out of the process himself. - like paying for vaccinations in which he has a major hand in producing.  

Tedros was nothing more than a spokesman for Chinese propaganda in the coronavirus case and Soros is a Communist himself,   So keeping bad company put Fauci in a bad light too.        

         

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 09:17
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15 Apr 2020, 09:17#15

Whoooooosh!

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2020, 10:40
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15 Apr 2020, 10:40#16
“ Posted by: Cloudy (8221 posts) Apr 15, 2020, 08:55 There’s no need to be so patronising just because someone doesn’t like Trump.” I’m not patronising at all. Just not so blinded by hate that I cannot get the point.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:13
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15 Apr 2020, 11:13#17

"I’m not patronising at all. Just not so blinded by hate that I cannot get the point."

Get a life will you, the man is a politician FFS......some you like some you don't, each to his own.

What's with the over zealous protection and hyper sensitive reaction every time someone sneezes in  your pooh pooh bear's direction !

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:18
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15 Apr 2020, 11:18#18

Cloudy, he's just turned dislike into hate. Ask him if he liked Obama.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:22
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15 Apr 2020, 11:22#19

Cera says...

"Sometimes you just need such a push and pull combination. I’m fine with Dr Birx as well."

Cloudy says...

"If we went with only feel and instinct we’d all be dead.“

Cloudy says...

"There’s no need to be so patronising..."

My translation...

I'll misinterpret what you say. Fk knows how, but I'll find a way to literally miss the crux of your point as laid out in the plainest English possible. If you dare correct me, then I'll accuse you of attacking/patronising me on the basis of my preference of political personality. 

IE You're being unfair and belittling me.

Par for the coarse(intentional spelling )




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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:24
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15 Apr 2020, 11:24#20

Plum

Your point is as per usual.....biased.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:28
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15 Apr 2020, 11:28#21

"...but just lately the man and the office he holds has become so blurred, I can’t tell who is who."

Yes, the US navy invented cloaking technology as documented in the Manhattan Project files.

Trump uses it from time to time when he feels he wants to blend in to the Oval office sofa...o r rug.

Hi Cloudy...are you well?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:30
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15 Apr 2020, 11:30#22

Hi Denny,

Ja. You know i'm the most biased person here.

I hate all information/people that don't agree with my outlook. The examples are endless. Just like my sarcasm.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:32
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15 Apr 2020, 11:32#23

I hate all information/people that don't agree with my outlook.

Yes that much I know, it's ok mate, just don't cry yourself to sleep.

Tsk, tsk.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:43
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15 Apr 2020, 11:43#24

But Denny, tears are the best lubricant for wonderful dreams.

Didn't ya know.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 11:54
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15 Apr 2020, 11:54#25

Since they help slide you to a land far, far, far away from all the patronising abuse.

No, Gandalf chose the hobbits exactly because they are simple. Far be it for me to contradict The Gre y.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 12:00
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15 Apr 2020, 12:00#26

I wouldn't know, I'm struggling with aching's sides watching Obese Donni's WH briefings.

Hate to think you're wetting your bed.

Take care of yourself my friend, it's always handy to keep a spare nappy or two for those times of deep depression.

BTW, care to answer the question I left you on a different thread? You don't have to but I must admit to finding it curious. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 12:14
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15 Apr 2020, 12:14#27

And there’s only one word for his briefings.....cringeworthy.

That's true. I feel quite sorry for Dr Fauci and Birx. True professionals, carved their way to the top of the medical world and are internationally respected but unfortunately they now have to share a platform on the world stage with an incoherent clown.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 Apr 2020, 12:48
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15 Apr 2020, 12:48#28

Hey thats offensive to incoherent clowns!

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Apr 2020, 12:57
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15 Apr 2020, 12:57#29
I have one simple question with one of two possible answers. Do you guys trust Drs Fauci and Birx?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Apr 2020, 13:07
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15 Apr 2020, 13:07#30

Vlag

Let's cut the crap for just a moment shall we?

Firstly they are medical people, they breathe, eat and drink science ie they speak purely from a scientific point of view. It's that simple. It is exactly what's expected of them. So then, what is there to distrust?

POTUS on the other hand with great difficulty has to get the country going, he is sitting on a double edged sword. Trouble is he can't just flip the switch in the face of a deadly threat.

Just my 5 cents.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Apr 2020, 13:21
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15 Apr 2020, 13:21#31

Scientists are never dishonest, biased or influenced.

You do a test in your 1st year at University in that regard.

Pretty much, rules out 100% of human imperfection. 

It why they're all divorced... 

"Do I look fat in this?"

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Apr 2020, 13:24
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15 Apr 2020, 13:24#32

Look, i don't really know the man, but his credentials looks good. I do however find it odd that he's been in the same position for 36 years...Odd for a scientist.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Apr 2020, 00:32
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16 Apr 2020, 00:32#33
He’s way past his sell by date. So far his contributions have been....there is no problem.....wash your hands and stand 6 feet apart...and we risk a second infection if we open too soon. 
The only reason I suggest he isn’t replaced is the political aggro would be a distraction.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
16 Apr 2020, 02:36
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16 Apr 2020, 02:36#34

Denny give up ....... for the trumpanzees this duplicitous buffoon's beyond reproach.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Apr 2020, 12:22
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16 Apr 2020, 12:22#35

Lol Blo

This is not about Trump.

But since you mention it,.let's compare Trump(not a health care professional)'s advice and record through the pandemic to that of Fauci and the WHO.

Let's apply the same standard of judgement to all parties.

Sure, the Trumpanzees won't hear reason...right?



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AJHPro3,183 posts
16 Apr 2020, 16:41
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16 Apr 2020, 16:41#36

No doubt that the medical team advising the President are all very educated, experienced and ethical medical professionals with many years of experience. Plus being experts in infectious diseases.

But in truth, they believed the WHO and the Chinese reports as the truth but now those reports have been shown to be fabricated by the two groups mentioned.

Thus said if the reports you are relying on are fabricated how can you possibly come up with a viable action plan to combat the problem?

Heads should roll I agree but not in the group from the President's advisory team but in the WHO, China and congress.


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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
16 Apr 2020, 18:50
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16 Apr 2020, 18:50#37


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Apr 2020, 19:33
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16 Apr 2020, 19:33#38

Some can do no wrong...others are always guilty of everything...blame game on both sides...but if you're constantly attacked for years...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2020, 05:51
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17 Apr 2020, 05:51#39

Fauci to his credit uses ‘normality’ rather than the ghastly ‘normalcy’. There you go Cloudy I said something nice about Fauci. Your turn to say something nice about Trump.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Apr 2020, 06:23
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17 Apr 2020, 06:23#40

Plenty of time Cloudy.....four more years in fact.

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