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A question for the anti intervention crowd.

Started by Mozart39 REPLIES432 VIEWS· 17 Mar 2026, 15:42
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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 15:42#1

We have had two actions against Iran, the initial strike against nuclear enrichment facilities and the current war lite. Would you distinguish between the two and based on that, what should the world be doing about the terrorist state Iran. Let’s hear the alternatives.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 15:45#2

Hang on, when you say the "initial" strike, do you mean Midnight Hammer or Epic Fail?


I promise I'll answer your question, I just want to understand it.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 15:48#3

I remember what I posted after Midnight Hammer, I posted something to the effect that it is very ironic that the one and only country who's actually ever nuked another country remains so insistent that it be the only (or at least the leading) nuclear power.


I still think that.


Are you quite sure you should be calling this "war lite", Moz? You may regret that. It certainly wasn't "lite" for a bunch of schoolkids.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 15:53#4

As for what the world should be doing, I'm not privy to the information that the world leaders get or what their relationships are like with other countries, but what I am 100% sure of is that the world would be in a much stronger, more positive and relatively peaceful state if NOTHING had been done.


Not saying there may not be some very valid suggestions from someone better informed than me on world politics, but doing NOTHING was better than this.


By a long way!

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 15:59#5

I actually don’t much care for these stupid military names for actions, granted they may motivate some troops. I am referring to the strike last year in one instance and the action started a few weeks ago as two distinct events.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 16:07#6

Ok, well, those two distinct events were given names . . . your hero Bozo brags that he got to approve those stupid names. You may not care for them but you know exactly what I'm talking about and the names of these operations are irrelevant so I'm not sure why you brought them up.


In that case, I believe I've answered your questions. Am I dodging anything?

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 16:17#7

And your answer is you wouldn’t have attacked the uranium enrichment plants last year and you wouldn’t have started the war lite. So I guess it’s business as usual circa early 2025. Got it.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 16:41#8

Breaking . . . this from the resignation letter of Joe Kent, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center (a Bozo appointee) . . .


“I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby,” Kent added in the resignation letter he attached to the post.


Good man!

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 16:50#9

You realize this man is far right and is simply reflecting the isolationist branch of MAGA

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 16:54#10

I don't know much about him at all but I'll take his comments at face value. He won't be the last rat to jump this ship.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
17 Mar 2026, 17:34#11

Obama era = Iran not enriching Uranium to nuclear levels.


Trump era = Ends the Obama deal.

Iran starts enriching uranium to nuclear levels.

Trump then drops a bomb on the nuclear site. Many would say it was not a bad thing to destroy their nuclear site. However, Trump helped create the situation in the first place, where they were enriching uranium to nuclear levels.


America is the number one terrorist state in the world at the moment.

Iran may have been worse if it had the means, but that is not the case.


Were it not for trade deals, Trump would have probably already attacked Greenland and Canada as well.

As for that blockade in Cuba, it is utterly disgusting. Apparently, hospitals have no power, so patients are dying, and the economy is falling apart. All while the disgusting Americans think this is ok.


America used to be a good country, but now it is shit. They are just being carried by Big Tech.

The democratically appointed Hitler. Trump is worse than Putin.


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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 17:41#12

sharkbok, I don't think it's just Big Tech. I think we'll see a more typical USA once they impeach the clown and get a real president.


The people who voted this disgusting human being into office (not just once but twice) have a lot to answer for.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2026, 17:46#13

So, you want Vance to become president? Gotcha.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
17 Mar 2026, 17:51#14

@Rooinek, what I was thinking is that Big Tech are responsible for around 10% of American GDP. -not including downstream impact.


I believe America are a country in decline, but it is masked by the success of Big Tech. Remove them from the European Market and other allies, and their GDP shrinks rapidly.


The average IQ in America is in decline. What type of people would vote for Trump? Yes. We have the religious simpletons who worship him like God, but where are the sensible people gone?


States like California, New York and other Blue states still have brains, but the red states exist as tax fraud areas that are parasites off the blue states. Look at Texas - growing, yet, but much of Big Tech is basing their operating their to avoid having to pay tax. (This is not a long-term plan; it is just cashing in the chips and screw future generations.


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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:00#15

PS, are you for or against the pressure he is putting on the ANC?...for or against their support for Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Russia and China...and do you see China as a threat to the West or South Africa at all?


Tell me if it's too far off topic for you all's liking..

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:13#16

Draad, I'd answer your question but I can't get past this:


"for or against their support for Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Russia and China"


Support?


You think what's happening is "support" for Iran . . . and Cuba?

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:22#17

America is in decline, and yet since 2000 US GNP has grown by 75% and European GNP has grown by 35%. Shark the Theme Park is the entity in decline, heading towards irrelevance. I’d advise relocating to a winner.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:45#18

Europe has made a mistake by allowing American monopolies to close down the market. Europe were following the rules-based order, while China and America are cheating it.


Big Tech will start becoming much smaller Tech once the products are removed from our markets. It has already started with governments that realise that their email and other data are not safe with American companies owning it. All data products must be phased out. America can't be trusted with this data, especially not with Hitler running the show.


20-30 years ago, no way that America would have democratically elected Trump.

I would take any of the EU politicians any day over America's bribed lobbyists that pretend to be politicians.


Big Tech is holding America together. However, the social fabric of American society is falling apart.


Sentiment is increasing in California to leave America (cede). Almost 50% now want to be their own country. California are the Jewel of America. They subsidize the Red states.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:51#19

Get real ASML Europe’s largest tech company doesn’t crack the global top ten. The chance for Europe to be a tech player is gone, lost in a society tied up with social angst and bureaucracy.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
17 Mar 2026, 18:58#20

If/When California cede from America, Big Tech is no longer American


Over 70%+ of the people who work in American Big Tech offices are not American. Having the dollar as the global reserve currency has helped fund investments that other countries could not make.


Loans can just be written off as inflation within other countries. The petrodollar is dying, and the world is moving away from the global currency. Trump is accelerating the process.

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