A question re Trump

So a question for the ardent Trump supporters, are you completely happy with everything President Trump and President Musk are doing or are there some areas of concern for you?

If so what?

For me this slash and burn firing people then rushing to re hire them and his tariff fixation and claiming the russian invasion is Zelenskys fault (pretty sure Ukraine didn't invade russia in 2022) appear to be the actions of a someone that does not think things through.

Also his complete disregard for the constitution which funny enough all his supporters keep going on about how they are fervent supporters of but remain silent as Trump tries to ignore them completely (I presume as they stand in his way of become Putin V2,0)

None at all and Musk is not a permanent fixture - he was appointed by Tump to cleaan up the total disaster the Federal Government is in. No comcern at all, The USA was in ever faster decline and sme drastic action was and is required,

Whon did Trump rushed to h re anybody? There was on problem that went way past you. Bden inceased the Federal Gvernment by 1,2 million employees from 1.964 million in 2023 to 3,2 million in 2024. The appointees so-called worked from home with the blessing of the Regime. Some apparently did not know whee their office were and never reported for duty - but get their pay cheques every month.

Corruption reached unbelievable levels with both politicians and buraucrats on the take. Take for instance the Treasury Department - the money payments should contain codes that must be completed when money was to paid out, Very few of the payments those codes ere used - so nobody knows what the money is used for. The system was utra crooked and abused by both politicians and bureaucrats endlessly.

The mess needed be sorted out and then Musk will go - he and Ramaswani received no salary for the services they are rendering. .

By the way in which way did Trump disregard the US Constitution? Please provide evidence on that one.

What disregard for the constitution?

Trump supporters do not live in a fact-based reality, so trying to engage them in a logical discussion is just not going to happen.

Snark, you won't recognize logic if it bit you in the arse.

SB

What fact-based reality do y ou live in. The USA Govnment was goin g down te drain with money been used for sht purposes of no value to the USA and a much as $3 of the 7 trillion budget was spet on issues not benefitting the country,

There was no busines mnanagement and billions go lost in a seas of corruption and mismanagement/maladministration. That was the reality facing Trump and there need to be a total re-organization to get the Government back on track.

So what other reality is there? Maybe I should add that Trump never started a war and his aii a always to try and settle issues through negotiations. He knew thatwas lead to corruption if not properly controlled, and the resent Ukraine War is ultra-corrupt/ He wants it ended and hsi erms with Russia is not known at all - but the site monkeys know it and condemn him without ny factual info.

So what reality do you live in?

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Crusty.....you probably already knew the answer to your question long before you popped it.

Must admit though that you weren't surprised by the response.......the Cult has spoken.

Denny

There is n cult -the fact is an economin collapse of the U SA will desroy the world economy as well situation the Chiese will exoloit to the full with Australia one of their targets,

So there must be a logical case to be considered and that is the impact a collapse of the USA would have fo the world/ Likely the end of Democracy in the wortd as well,

DumbAss is having a few doubts, but as for the rest of MAGA's munchkin-minded clique, they remain staunchly loyal, while they carefully do avoid talking about his latest bouts of outrageous batshittery.

His attempt to bar children born in the USA to illegal immigrants. The US constitution automatically gives the child this right.

Is it right or wrong is not the issue. you endlessly hear how the constitution is unbreakable and many will quote sections of it (namely the 2nd amendment). seems it's not so special after all and a precedent will be set if they break it.

I can't see how this POTUS reign will survive for 4 years.

Denny and BB

My ympathy si with you two - the C hinese navy according to Reuters had live fire exercises between Austrlala and New Zealand - if Harris won the election they would have landed ib both countries already and there was near to zero chance of US resistance if fhat happened.

Unreal how you have no idea about what is happeing worldwide other than what you read in garbage like The Guardian - that is addicted to supreme BS spreading. Sounds to me ou favor another assassination attempt on Trump with your four year deluded comments..

"His attempt to bar children born in the USA to illegal immigrants. The US constitution automatically gives the child this right.

Is it right or wrong is not the issue. you endlessly hear how the constitution is unbreakable and many will quote sections of it (namely the 2nd amendment). seems it's not so special after all and a precedent will be set if they break it."

Quote the sections of it that he is disregarding...come now, be specific...

"I can't see how this POTUS reign will survive for 4 years."

Why not?...

There is a problelm with children borne in the USA and US citizenship. You get according to the present law various categories of people - like foreign representatives of other countries and Governments a well as business operatives in the USA who if children are borne in the USA do not automatcoically become US citizensare not ebcoming US Citizens,

Trump during he election campaign said that the issue of minors brne to illegal immigrants needs to eb investigated and again there are two cartegories f people invovled and thos are of elgal immigrants who are not US citiens yet and their children born in the USA. In case of legal immigration a eview is necessary - in th e ase of illgl migrants there is no provision allowing for heir children to ebcome US citizens automatically.

Bcause of the at least 12 million illegals - amongst them 450 000 chidren unaccompanied children used by affickers to do slave labor and sex labor in the USA - he situation is already a mess, doing slave lbor in teh USA here is already a mess and if a criminal is deported from the U SA -any child borne in the USA will h ave to go with his father.

Wat Trump did say is that he will have an investigation done on various categories of children invovled and policy wikk therefter be developed - until tha has been done n children will be grant ed autommatic citizenship in the USA.

F unny - when the Biden Regime ignored the Inmmigration Act and allow over 12 million people to flood into the USA you did not accuse Biden of breach of the C onsitution of the USA - but you cme up wit the above as bein g Uconstitutional in the cas of Trump. Funny how BS reigns supreme in t hat case.

the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution

In the United States, birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Specifically, it states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

There you go Dradd took me 15 seconds to find that, google could be your friend to.

And another 10 seconds of reading:

Explanation

1. The 14th Amendment states that all people born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and the state where they live.
2. The 14th Amendment was passed after the Civil War to ensure equal protection under the law and due process to all people.
3. The 14th Amendment is considered a cornerstone of American civil rights.
4. The 14th Amendment's guarantee of citizenship by birth applies to all children born in the United States, regardless of the immigration status of their parents.
5. 
   

There are some exceptions to the 14th Amendment's guarantee of citizenship by birth, including children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships.

So is that specific enough for you, or do you want me to pop down to Washington and borrow the original document and come round to your place so you can have a read?

You're not quoting from the actual 14th amendment...you're quoting someone's interpretation of it...and Trump is against the concept of anchor babies...he will do it legally and within the constitution...he will have no choice...there are laws and due process...

OFFS here you go then, and no I am not a lawyer to argue the finer points but to layman section 1 covers it nicely and the opinions of the lawyers and other experts on things like this say the same thing. Your Messiah is not a lawyer or expert in such things now is he. he is just saying what he knows his racist followers want to hear. He is playing idiots like you

U.S. Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Fourteenth Amendment

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

I'm not trying to be argumentative...I tried to find it to read for myself...it's not that easy...

And race has got nothing to do with this...Trump will follow the law and due process, he's got no choice...you hysterical idiots are being dog-whistled by this constant barrage of everything-Trump-does-is-bad nonsense....constitutional crises my arse.

And what a pathetic view that Trump supporters are racist...tell that to the millions of black people who support him...

Whatever executive actions he takes, will be contested in court and if deemed to have been unlawful, it will be reversed...simple...due process...unlike the previous idiots who just refused to do their duty and swarmed the country with illegal immigrants of the worst kind...gangs and criminals...

Tell me Sader...didn't you say you have a Saffa son in law or something?

I'm going to find a bookie that will accept my $100 wager that Trump will not see out the 4 year term.

What odds they might offer will be interesting.

Blob...there is a real chance he could be assassinated...I know you think he'll be impeached, but I don't see it...

The problem CF forgets about is that there is a Law expanding on the above citizen rights issue and that deals specifically with Children borne in the USA legally in the USA and borne in the USA, That law specifically deal with who born in the USA under certain circumstancces being disqualified as having citizenship by birthright.

Trump did not disqualify the birthright issue when it came to illegal migrant children - everyone of his predecesssors like Bush Junior, Obama and Biden applying that law did nothing about giving the children of illegal migrants borne in the USA citizen rights, What Trump clearly said is that issue needed review - and that the Law being clarified and until that review is completed and the Law clarified the issue should not be implemented by the rogue-and corrupt Federal Public Service - hence his EO.

It is aways easy to blame Trump with things his predecessors did nothing about. Trump in a media interview said the citizen rights needs of illegal migrants be clarified legally to remove an obvious injustice to such children - so a review is necessary. It should look also at the parents of such children who has been in the USA for many years and has not run foul of other laws and is also not USA Citizens. should laso be reviewed since their position is also impacted.and may have been wrongly applied by his predecessors,

The fact is that Biden fucked up the system royally by his Open Border Policy allowing 12 million illegal migrants from all over the world into the USA and the Democrats have gone down th drain as a result, Many of the migrants have children already and what about them. What was and is much worse is that there were 450 000 unaccompanied children some as youg as 3 years old has been smuggled into the USA and perhaps the following video will verify something CF knows zero about:-

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/hawley-slams-biden-official-releasing-migrant-children-human-traffickers/

Why do you not deal with that type of issue when the rights of children are being abused and what do you think Trump should do about those children bearing in mind ome of the children are used to ease entry into the USA and then abandoed by their "parents" and I saw videos of such children that tthe Border guards found destitute in the border area. What must the USA Government do with thousands of such children?

CF try again and tell us how Trump must be blamed for the maladministration his predecessors has caused and not corrected, we would like to hear what he thinks is wrong about Trump caused by his predecessors caused and did nothing about it?

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A policy aimed squarely at the brown folk from south of the border it's as plain as fuck.

Any yes I have a SAFFA son in-law I am waiting for your point with baited breathe.

And by the way you don't have to be white to be racist

And not everyone that votes for someone supports all their policies and ideas. if people could only vote for someone if you agree 100% of everything then dumbmike and pedobeeno would be the only 2 idiots in the world that could vote.

"A policy aimed squarely at the brown folk from south of the border it's as plain as fuck."

What policy is that?...the deporting of illegal immigrants?...race is not the issue...it's plain as fuck for anyone not race obsessed.

Why did your son in law leave South Africa?...btw, this isn't part of some argument...inquiry unrelated to the topic.

He moved with his family, as to why I am guessing its the same reason as every other saffa I know. they wanted a better life and escape the violence.

I have nothing to do with his parents so can't say if this is the case or not. Luckily he is nothing like his parents.

I understand that people go to other countries for a better life...I can understand why millions swarm to the USA...but it has to be orderly and within the laws of the countries of destination...

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