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Another hate killing . . .

Started by Rooinek68 REPLIES2,162 VIEWS· 28 Oct 2018, 18:42
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 Oct 2018, 18:42
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28 Oct 2018, 18:42#1

11 killed and several injured in a shooting in Pittsburgh. 


The hatred and divison that Bozo stirs up every time he holds one of his rallies or tweets his pathetic bigotry is creating an environment for this spate of hate crimes. There will be many more.


The only people who are more stupid than Bozo or care less about the USA are the idiots who vote for him.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Oct 2018, 12:24
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29 Oct 2018, 12:24#2
To add to this, Bozo has since been told by Jewish leaders in Pittsburgh that he is not welcome there as he is part of the problem.
Here's an excerpt:

"For the past three years your words and your policies have emboldened a growing white nationalist movement. You yourself called the murderer evil, but yesterday’s violence is the direct culmination of your influence,” the open letter said.

It called on Trump to “fully denounce white nationalism,” to “stop targeting and endangering all minorities,” to “cease your assault on immigrants and refugees” and to “commit yourself to compassionate democratic policies that recognize the dignity of all of us.”

Until he does so, Trump -- who has announced his intent to visit Pittsburgh -- is not welcome in the city, the letter said."
Well said! The chickens are coming home to roost.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Oct 2018, 15:28
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29 Oct 2018, 15:28#3
Hold on, hasn't Trump got a Jewish son in law? That marriage must have been a devious political plot don't you think Koos. But it's good to see that you are still able to turn any tragedy into an anti Trump political rant....I'd hate to think you were finding your marbles.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Oct 2018, 08:32
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30 Oct 2018, 08:32#4
No, stupid, I'm not turning this into an anti-Trump rant, if you read what I said again and get someone with a double-digit IQ to help you with the big words you'll see that I'm saying Trump is one of the main reasons for this violence . . . and the Jewish leaders in Pittsburgh seem to agree with me.
As for Bozo having a Jewish son-in-law, that doesn't mean he likes Jews. He didn't choose him, did he? I would guess Bozo likes Jared Kushner about as much as any man likes the guy who's banging the woman of his dreams.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Oct 2018, 10:23
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30 Oct 2018, 10:23#5

All these absurd attempts by the radical open borders left wing globalist demonrat snakes to link this massacre to President Trump is once again back firing badly.

The perpetrator hates Trump and thvs because he clams Trump is controlled by the Jews. Then we have his daughter ivanka being a Jewess and Trump grandchildren are jewish.

Then we have Netanyahu giving Trump a plaque expressing the appreciation of the Jewish Nation for moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Then we have Trump being the most pro Israeli President ever. An envoy form israel has just arrived in America and was on Fox warmly thanking President trump for his hard hitting condemnation of these atrocities and support for the Jewish community. Trump called for the death penalty for thvs kvller and that they wvll work hard to destroy anti semites

Meanwhile the Demonrats say zero about arch anti Semite Louis Farrakhan who was pals with Obummer and other to demonrats. MSM refused for many years to show picture of Obummer with Farrakhan but picture has now been shown.

Then we have the Pittsburg Rabbi warmly welcoming the visit of Trump.

What we also have is the globalist MSM fake news propaganda merchants trying to make out that the progressive Globalist Jews reviling reflect majority Jewish opinion whereas they are a radical left minority. The n:

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders does not blame President Donald Trump for the shooting at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life Synagogue, unlike many of his leftist peers.

“I’m not going to sit here and blame the president,” Senator Sanders said on Monday, according to a report from the Washington Examiner.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Oct 2018, 10:37
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30 Oct 2018, 10:37#6

So imagine trying to make out President Trump is anti Jewish with all the above facts contradicting you. The American people can see through this BS.

Bet poor rooitwit, the CNN fake news slave knows nothing about the facts i presented. All he is capable of doing is sounding off when his mind control masters sound off! Hahahahahahahaha its very funny as it happens like clockwork and then we have massive loads of EGG dribbling down said rooitwits unusual visog!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Oct 2018, 10:42
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30 Oct 2018, 10:42#7

Like President Trump, Senator Sanders had a derranged fan who used political violence against his percieved enemies — shooting up the Congressional Baseball Game last year and injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and several others. The shooter had screamed “this is for healthcare” as he opened fire, according to Senator Rand Paul.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders made this point today during her press briefing.

“It’s not the president, no more than it was Bernie Sanders’ fault for the individual who shot up a baseball field,” the press secretary asserted during the briefing.

While partisans have been busy pointing fingers, at least there are some who understand that the people responsible for these horrific attacks are the extemists themselves.

Bloggers say:

Bernie Sanders' followers are shooting up Republican facilities nationwide, including attempting to kill the entire Republican congressional baseball team, nearly killing poor Steve Scalise.

Damn right Crazy Bernie better not be blaming Trump for the synagogue killings by the Trump hating national socialist.

Crazy Bernie found his balls and went off-script for a split second. Oh man the democrats are going to make him pay for that.

Hillary: "Alllllll right MISTER! For that, you lose one of the houses we gave you to shut you up after we screwed you over in the primaries!"

True, but this is a well timed one. Bernie was no more responsible for what one of his supporters did than was Robert Di Nero in Taxi for the Reagan shooting. There are crazies out there who will be crazy. The media need to tone it down.

They can't stop. They've wrapped their personal egos around their hatred for Pres. Trump, his supporters--us deplorable dregs--and anyone who does not agree with them, which is mostly us. They don't want Pres. Trump to succeed; they don't want us to succeed or prosper. They want us dead, just like the Dimms want us dead. We are collateral damage. The MSM are the Dimms. There is no difference between the "leaders of the Democrat Socialist party" and the likes of the press.

Almost makes you wish for the old Democratic Party

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Oct 2018, 10:56
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30 Oct 2018, 10:56#8
My goodness but you Trumpanzees are stupid.
Stop being so defensive and just go back and re-read what it is I said. Here:
"The hatred and divison that Bozo stirs up every time he holds one of his rallies or tweets his pathetic bigotry is creating an environment for this spate of hate crimes. There will be many more."
Now, are you seriously suggesting that I'm saying Bozo hates Jews in that statement?
Huh chump?
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
30 Oct 2018, 11:02
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30 Oct 2018, 11:02#9

...Bean Brain they don't want drunken Don there after he insinuated the victims of the synagogue shootings were to blame for their own deaths because they were unarmed. 

Not only that but many of them think he's a Nazi sympathiser after calling those neo Nazis in Charlottsville very fine people..

Agolf Twitler hosting another one of his hate rallies just hours after the biggest massacre of their Jewish community in US history was also seen as inappropriate.

But they also think the shooter acted on a conspiracy theory that Trump was promoting about Soros funding the caravan full of "invaders" Soros being Jewish...so many of them think Trump has blood on his hands...

And just when you thought Trump could'nt fk up any further the rabbi you speak of that was sent was a Messianic Jew better known as Jews for Jesus ...Most Jews seethe existence of these groups as a profound offence and an attack on Judaeism itself..

So will be interesting what kind of reception he gets in Pittsburgh after they've said they just want to be left alone to bury their dead

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Oct 2018, 12:15
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30 Oct 2018, 12:15#10
Brycy, this article suggests that Bozo is headed for Pittsburgh against the wishes of the Jewish community, not to grieve and offer condolences, but to moan and groan about fake news again and to rail against everyone blaming him and his hate-fuelling rhetoric for this tragedy.
Predictable I suppose. Too stupid to understand that he is the one creating all this hatred and division.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Oct 2018, 15:40
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30 Oct 2018, 15:40#11

Hahahahahahahhaha oh my aching sides. You get stupid and then you get Brycy and the ultimate - rooitwitterbug!

One hopes Trump keeps calling out all those lying scumbags out to destroy America and the natvon states of Europe

. MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Trump the greatest President in American History.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Oct 2018, 15:53
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30 Oct 2018, 15:53#12

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Oct 2018, 16:02
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30 Oct 2018, 16:02#13
Ah proof then.....hahahahaha.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Oct 2018, 16:06
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30 Oct 2018, 16:06#14
So the man who takes on the world to move the Embassy to Jerusalem....has a Jewish son in law and grandchildren... is anti semetic.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
30 Oct 2018, 16:50
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30 Oct 2018, 16:50#15

Soros, now there's a wretch if ever there was one. A proud ex-Nazi. Boastful of his acts. It doesn't stop the globalist drones taking his money. More recently threatened the overthrow of several Eastern EU states. The spirit of Nazism is alive in Globalism. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
31 Oct 2018, 03:03
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31 Oct 2018, 03:03#16

Poor Koosie he just can't curb his hate as it slips into overdrive. Stopping short of saying that Trump put the idea and gun into the hands of a lunatic to commit mass murder. Trump, not a favourite of mine moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, is a staunch supporter of Israel more so than arguably any previous president but according to Koosie is the prime reason for the latest killing spree.

Is there anyone on this forum more blinded and driven by hate than koosie?


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 07:12
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31 Oct 2018, 07:12#17
Man are these Trumpanzees stupid or what?
I wonder if they could put their heads together and between then point out where I said Bozo was anti-semetic?
For the feeble-minded Trumpanzees, "Bozo creates the environment for these kinds of attacks on Jews" = "Bozo hates Jews".
Hard to reason with this kind of narrow-minded stupidity. Not sure I should even bother . . . rather just have a laugh at these fundamentally stupid half-wits.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Oct 2018, 12:12
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31 Oct 2018, 12:12#18

Rooi, one could argue that the other way.

You could say that if the opposite of Trump was in office then whites would feel furstrated into racially motivated hate killings.

Each person has a choice to make.

You either make evil choices or you make good ones.

Palming the blame for something like this off onto a politican amounts to scapegoating and deceptive opportunism.

Unless of course i could go an kill some people based on Malema's most recent diatribe and blame my actions on the environment he is creating.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 12:45
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31 Oct 2018, 12:45#19

I'm trying to picture the "opposite of Trump" and all I'm getting is this highly intelligent, extremely polite and charming person who hates himself with a passion.

Anyway, I disagree with you. For starters, Malema is not the president of a country. Bozo is. There's a big difference between representing the ideals of a political party and representing the country.  

Stupid people think that Bozo's attacks on the media, democrats, Islam and pretty much anyone who disagrees with him or criticizes him are patriotic and nationalistic and they in turn vent their anger and hatred against those targets.

Just look at our country where we elected a corrupt uneducated rapist as president and how the levels of corruption, violence and unemployment went through the roof. A president sets an example and the example that Bozo sets is to divide and hate. Just read his pathetically childish, petulant and self-glorifying Twitter feed if you want examples.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
31 Oct 2018, 12:57
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31 Oct 2018, 12:57#20
I don't like Trump much, but gun attacks in the US have been escalating steadily regardless of who sat in the oval office. I don't think his rhetoric is helping in any way, but I think it has more to do with a societal problem than any specific leader. One thing that I notice the Trump supporters are quiet about is the fact that Robert Bowers was not a Muslim, but was instead a run of the mill American white male. Once again, a US mass shooting has nothing to do with the perceived evil of Islam.
  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 13:04
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31 Oct 2018, 13:04#21
bluebok, first off I think your graph demonstrates a marked increase in shootings in the 2 years Bozo has been in office and secondly, if someone who runs into a synagogue and screams "All Jews must Die" as he opens fire on innocent worshippers can be described as your "run of the mill American white male" then god help America!  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
31 Oct 2018, 13:36
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31 Oct 2018, 13:36#22
I simply made the point that these mass shootings have been trending upward for a while. Also, the graph only takes one year of his presidency into account. Rooiter, surely you are smart enough to know what I meant by "run of the mill American white male"? I'll break it down for you anyway. I was trying, and obviously not succeeding, to illustrate that these nasty immigrants, especially the Muslim s, that Trump is trying to block from entering the US, have once again had nothing to do with the kind of mass shooting the American public associate them with.  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 13:41
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31 Oct 2018, 13:41#23
Okay, as long as we can agree that he's (hopefully) not your "run of the mill" kinda guy!
Oh and if that graph is only showing the first year of Bozo's term then I'd say case closed. Impeach the gaslighting hatemonger.  
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Oct 2018, 14:11
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31 Oct 2018, 14:11#24

"Just look at our country where we elected a corrupt uneducated rapist as president and how the levels of corruption, violence and unemployment went through the roof. A president sets an example and the example that Bozo sets is to divide and hate. Just read his pathetically childish, petulant and self-glorifying Twitter feed if you want examples."

Agreed!

The only thing i'd say would be that one can't ignore things that hapened under Obama. He was kinda the opposite of Trump and hate crimes still occured. Dunno if there were more or less, but my guess is that it was probably a similar amount. I might be very wrong.

What does concern me is how so many media outlets have been slating Trump since even before he was elected. From Jimmy Falon to CNN to Time magazine and everyone inbetween. Why?

They weren't doing it because he was an easy target. Nor because they all individually disliked him so much. To me, it has been a clear and concerntrated effort by a group. Their motive...fuck knows but i'm sure it aint rainbows and unicorns.

George Bush Jr was widely disliked, less intelligent than Trump and only slightly more charismatic, yet there was never anything remotely resembling the defamation campaign that Trump has been subject to. Why?

Even to date...you'll never hear about the 400k Iraqi civillians that were killed directly as a result of Bush's campaign against Iraq. One that was built on a blatant unrelenting lie. One that spawned ISIS. Whats's it now? 17 years later...and the Bush effect is still worse than anything Trump has come even close to. Here...

"Researchers estimated there were 405,000 excess Iraqi deaths attributable to the war through mid-2011. They also attempted to account for deaths missed because families had fled the country, and estimated 55,805 total deaths, bringing the total to nearly 461,000"

I'd say that 400k dead people is a pretty improtant topic and there might be some lessons to learn there? Fuck me, a national day of rememberance and jail time for the perpetrators should a be a minimum. Death sentences aren;t a stretch either. Nobody every did appear at the Hague for that teensy blunder. Odd.

So we'd rather talk about how Trump is an idiot than about almost half a million dead people...the ISIS attacks and on an on.

I don't like or dislike Trump but what the last few years have highlighted for me is that there is 100% some group behind the scenes that are trying to control things and that presidents being puppets is not just some conspiracy garble.

If all these media outlets care so much about what is good, just and right for the USA and the world...where the fuck were they when the middle east was being wrecked inthe 2000s?

They were supporting it to the nines. The only place you could go for anything resembling honest journalism back then was Al Jazeera.

These are now the same guys that are doing everything in their power to discredit Trump.

Despite my indifference to Trump...seeing who his enemies are, that makes me think that maybe he is the good guy in this.

Weird way of arriving at a conclusion but there you go.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 14:24
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31 Oct 2018, 14:24#25
Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing?
Just to change subject, Plum, did you ever post on this forum under another name where the 2nd letter of that name was "p" and the 4th letter a "o"?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Oct 2018, 14:29
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31 Oct 2018, 14:29#26

""Ah, the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing?""

He's only my friend in as much as him running for and landing the hot seat has confirmed many suspicions.

Nah Rooi.

You wont find me posting under other names. Just not my thing man.

If i did though, i probably wouldn't admit it.

All i can say is that i didn't. You'll have to choose to believe or not believe it :/

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 14:32
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31 Oct 2018, 14:32#27
No worries, just that your writing style and a lot of your sentiments are remarkably similar to an ex-poster who was a regular contributor here a few years ago.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Oct 2018, 20:10
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31 Oct 2018, 20:10#28

Rooi, you can blame Trump for whatever you like, but the reason he got ellected is not a lot of stupid Republican rednecks. He got elected because of the Nacy Pelosi's and Maxine Waters's of the world. The silent majority got p!ssed off at the establishment...and rightly so.  Go ahead, call half of the 300 million americans stupid. Those fools are keeping the world economy running...and Bozo knows what he's doing ...our clowns don't. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Oct 2018, 20:19
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31 Oct 2018, 20:19#29
Oh Bozo knows what he's doing alright . . . just that it's all whatever suits Bozo . . . and you Trumpanzees are too stupid to see it.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2018, 02:37
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01 Nov 2018, 02:37#30
Now for Trump's rallies to create anti semetic violence, there would have to be something in the content that does that. What do you think.....the stand with Israel bits that get big ovations?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2018, 08:23
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01 Nov 2018, 08:23#31

Rooinek

I do not particularly like Trump, but I think there are things that you miss out on.  Trump may be branded as a leader of the reactionaries that is coming out more and more in world politics - namely the reaction of people that is driven into utter despair by government elites around the world.

The fact is that Governments around the world had created their own elites and created poverty and despair amongst large sections of the communities they are governing.  Despair and hatred would be there more and more as the situation deteriorates.  Trump is merely a leader that reacts to the political environment and in some way is in fact releasing pressure from a volatile world political environment.

I think that  things can go worse than they are already if the pressure is not released and more people-orientated governments are in place.   At present the divides between he haves and have-nots is widening and the fact is that the blow-out can go either way - to extreme leftwing governments (which failed recently as well) or  a tendency to go the other way.

Extremism in politics is a recipe for disaster - ignoring the ordinary people of countries is what needs to be corrected.   Fact is unlike many I do not blame Trump for what is happening in the USA - I blame his predecessors for creating an environment where that despair could start and flourish.  

Problem is - it is not a USA situation only - it is becoming a world wide problem affecting many countries.         


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Nov 2018, 08:29
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01 Nov 2018, 08:29#32

Won't post???

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Nov 2018, 08:31
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01 Nov 2018, 08:31#33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Nov 2018, 08:40
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01 Nov 2018, 08:40#34

@ Moz 

This is the thing. The media have caused/helped Trump to have a label put around his neck. 

It was an intentional and concentrated effort. They wanted to make it easy for everything to be blamed on him so that he'd suffer the consequences that went with those accusations.

Once that label is there it becomes fine for anyone to throw any shit they want his way.

He's a Nazi, so he must be guilty of X,Y And Z. The truth doesn't factor into it. 

What is truly amazing is how severely it keeps backfiring.

The best they could have done would have been to leave him be and slowly allow small things like his Twitter rants to erode popularity.

Instead they've created this huge evil persona but his actions don't match how they've painted him and now not only do they look silly but they've helped galvanised his popularity.

Funny stuff.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Nov 2018, 09:42
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01 Nov 2018, 09:42#35

"This is the thing. The media have caused/helped Trump to have a label put around his neck. "

This sounds slightly delusional to me.

It wasn't the media that backed Putin despite contrary evidence provided by the FBI . . . or paid hush money to a porn star with campaign funds . . . or sent troops to the border to wait 4 weeks for a caravan of unarmed migrants to arrive . . . or ridiculed a disabled journalist . . . or called anyone "horseface" . . . or demonized the press . . . or any of the countless and well documented embarrassing blunders this fool has made . . .it was Bozo. The media just reported it.

Are you saying the media should not have reported on any of those things? Is that what you're saying here, Plum?

I won't disagree that the media gives Bozo a hard time but that's because he's a misogynistic, bigoted, self-serving, ignorant and deceitful buffoon with no sense of self-awareness. He deserves all the criticism that comes his way. You can't blame the media for reporting on what they see and hear.

Bozo is a big boy who should be adult enough to take responsibility for his actions. It's not the media's fault that he't too vain and emotionally insecure to do that and instead spends all day getting involved in childish little spats on Twitter and squealing "fake news" every time he's ever criticized. 

Don't shoot the messenger.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Nov 2018, 09:59
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01 Nov 2018, 09:59#36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfXvSKWafTE


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Nov 2018, 10:08
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01 Nov 2018, 10:08#37

Trump is better at propaganda and marketing than the opposition...Reps and Dems alike.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Nov 2018, 12:38
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01 Nov 2018, 12:38#38

"It wasn't the media that backed Putin despite contrary evidence provided by the FBI . . . or paid hush money to a porn star with campaign funds . . . or sent troops to the border to wait 4 weeks for a caravan of unarmed migrants to arrive . . . or ridiculed a disabled journalist . . . or called anyone "horseface" . . . or demonized the press . . . or any of the countless and well documented embarrassing blunders this fool has made . . .it was Bozo. The media just reported it"

Yeah, i agree he may have done some of those things and that it is worthwhile, to whatever degree for them to be reported.

The media take those types of instances and begin to build a false image of him that goes beyond what he ahs actually done.

Trump then moves from jevenile silverspoon frat boy with old school sexist tendencies into the realms of racist nazi warmonger and and and...to the point where comedians on TV call his wife a cunt and wasnt there that woman comedian a while ago who did something with a decapitated Trump head?

And it's all fine, beause the media have since the start being building a "new hitler" image out of him. So call him waht you want, he's a nazi after all.

I find the motives behind all this to be interesting. Its not jsut that they dont like him. It's obviously much deeper.

That's all i'm saying Rooi.




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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Nov 2018, 12:46
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01 Nov 2018, 12:46#39
Ummmm . . . Plum, what was it you were saying about exercising one's right to free speech on the Bolsonaro thread? Does that same right not apply to comedians on TV?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Nov 2018, 13:34
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01 Nov 2018, 13:34#40

It does.

I'm justifying to illustrate how the media are building a false image of someone.

And how once that image is solidified truth goes out the window.

Had that not been the case then it'd be less easy to connect/blame Trump for a hate crime against a community which he in fact supports.

It's a dangerous game and the media are doing their country a disservice by perpetuating it.


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