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Biden and Ramaphosa meets today

Started by clevermike20 REPLIES691 VIEWS· 17 Sept 2022, 03:31
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 03:31
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17 Sept 2022, 03:31#1

Here we have a case where they are mutual lovers based on the core of their political careers - corruption being the norm that is discussed in public will be -

*    the Ukrain War where Biden is going to try and convince Ramaphosa that war is preferable to peace and he is not prepared to negotiate anything not benefitting his party as kick back specialists;

*    closer economic co-operation based on the antipathy of SA and many African Countries becoming part of the Biden Administration to ensure they comply with the New Sub-Saharan Plan of the USA on exchange for economic help from the bankrupt US Government.

What will not be public is what the two most corrupt individuals in politics and their cronies can benefit from the entrenched kick back system benefitting the Democratic Party leadership                 

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
17 Sept 2022, 04:04
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17 Sept 2022, 04:04#2

It is a pity you and Zuma are no longer on the scene.
You and Zuma could do a lot more than a property deal with Biden.

Do you remember when you collaborated with the radical left? When you sold the white man down the river?  You had a chance to stand for conservatism, but you never took it...

You and Hunter would have got on like a house on fire.
The "Big Guy" would be able to provide you with enough to fill your pipe, and get your last kickback at our expense...



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 04:08
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17 Sept 2022, 04:08#3

While going through opinion polls O found the following article dealing with opinions expressed by voters:-

 The very fact so many Americans think the US is turning into a dictatorship and that a civil war is a likely scenario speaks volumes of the unflattering state of the much-touted “American democracy”. Writes Drago Bosnic

 For over three decades, the United States of America has been chest-thumping about being the world’s “sole remaining superpower“. Some in the US establishment have even claimed that the US has become the world’s first “hyperpower“. And indeed, in the immediate aftermath of the Soviet dismantlement, the US-led political West seemed unbeatable, unilaterally starting wars across the globe, all under various pretexts such as “humanitarianism“ and the much-touted “War on Terror“. The US and NATO used both of these excuses to invade dozens of other countries, be it former Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc. The US military seemed unstoppable and able to overcome any opponent, oftentimes by using air power only, with minimal ground engagements, at least until it got bogged down, which in itself was very useful for the ever-profit-hungry Military Industrial Complex.

“Among 15 potential future scenarios involving instability or political violence, the one that most Americans consider likely in the next decade is that the U.S. ceases to be a global superpower (50% say this), followed by a total collapse of the U.S. economy (47%). Each of the 15 dire scenarios is considered somewhat or very likely in the next decade by at least 20% of Americans. […] 37% of Americans say [a civil war] is at least somewhat likely to occur,“ the YouGov poll found.

The most surprising aspect of the poll must be the staggering nearly 40% of US citizens who consider civil war “at least somewhat likely.“ With a population of approximately 330 million people and being among the world’s most armed nations, such a prospect seems rather terrifying. However, it’s hardly surprising, especially given the sheer level of polarization of the US society, regardless if it’s based on race, religion, sex/gender, identity, ideology or any other parameter which the parties and various interest groups in the US are trying to exploit and use for political, financial and power gain.

“[…] After an end to the U.S.’s global-superpower status and economic collapse, the next scenario is that the U.S. will cease to be a democracy (39%). Democrats believe the U.S. will become a fascist dictatorship (31%), while Republicans think it will be a communist one (21%). Two-thirds of Republicans (65%) believe that total economic collapse is at least somewhat likely, compared to only 38% of Democrats. Around half of Republicans (48%) say it’s likely that the government will confiscate citizens’ firearms; only 17% of Democrats say this. Republicans are also more likely than Democrats to believe there will be a total breakdown of law and order (49% vs. 31%),“ according to the poll.

Although it’s expected to see a larger number of Republicans being more pessimistic about the country’s future under a Democrat president and government, the percentage of Democrats who aren’t particularly optimistic is quite telling. It’s more than clear that many DNC voters themselves are unsatisfied with the policies of the current US government.  

A sad state of affairs not necessarily confined to the USA - but with worldwide implications as to the future of Democratic Governance in the world.   The Biden Administration is trying desperately to establish a one-party state in the USA and even the  moderates in the Democratic Party is clearly also not happy about what is happening in the USA at present.        

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Sept 2022, 04:47
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17 Sept 2022, 04:47#4

You should identify your sources, be it Gab or QAnon .

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 07:35
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17 Sept 2022, 07:35#5

Neither of the two and do you know what Gap and Qanon are?  Qanon is a websrte operated by 5 people and is a scare tactic of the Democrats and the leftist media - nothing of substance ever in membership or influence politically since they are not linked to any political party.  Have never quoted anything from that site anyway.   I know nothing about Gab at all.   Please enlighten me on that one.   I will also read up on it myself - but as a moderate I abhor both  leftist radicals and rightwing radicals - both is a plague in the world.          

The fact is the above is an analysis of what came out in an opinion poll - nothing else/    It was done by the info branch of the BRICS countries and has no ties to any US political parties     Be assured these countries making up 42% of the world population are not interested in the present USA political divides - but did analyze a recent USA political opinion poll and found some horrible truths about USA Politics.    The fact is that Biden promised to reconcile the USA political divide through following moderate policies - but did the exact opposite by pushing extreme leftist and socialist agenda policies and is now according to his recent speech already at war with anybody opposing his Regime.     Biden is a dementia suffering idiot - it is his handlers who is actually ruining the USA.

Looking at reality the US political divide has been a problem for everybody else.   The Trump Administration was not interested in proxy wars and they tried to ensure peace and stability in the world.   The Democrats are pushing for continuation of wars and military involvement and is pushed by the US Armaments Industry through a corrupt backhander system.  That is the heart of the US political agenda at present.     Be assured not only the Biden Regime benefits from that corrupt system - some political career Republicans like Ms Cheyne through her father and her own links to Haliburton - regarded as one of the five most corrupt companies in the USA - which thrive on corrupt military contracts and make hundreds of millions through the backhander system as well.  

            

            

    

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Sept 2022, 07:44
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17 Sept 2022, 07:44#6

'Storm is coming': Trump embraces QAnon conspiracy theories

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/donald-trump-embraces-qanon-conspiracy-theories-storm-is-coming/XMY25AZIM4KOMXHQC2A5E2GWRI/

17 Sep 09:45 AM

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Sept 2022, 07:45
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 07:52
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17 Sept 2022, 07:52#8

 SB

It is amazing how you can distort things on site.   I at one stage was involved of helping with developments that would benefit the poor and especially the black community.   My own feeelings always were to help poor and defenseless people.  I never used my position for any political purposes and worked for many hours in overtime without any compensation to that end.    After being involved in construction of a community center in Groutville - including workshops and small businesses I was asked by the Albert Luthuli Trust to become a Trustee.  A a matter of fact it was as a Trustee I met and became familiar with Zuma.    I do not ever said anything other thanhe seems to eb friendly - but I would not trust him at all.    

I know you hate the poor and hate any opposition to the socialist and dictatorship agendas of the Socialists and Fascists os I expect to and was happy to find that you are still a BSting "useful idiot".    Unlike you I am a moderate and aways have been onne.   My pet hatred is politicians being corrupt crooks - that is why a viciously attack Zuma and his compadres Biden and the Democrats in the USA.   

             

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 08:03
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17 Sept 2022, 08:03#9

Blobok

I read the article and came to the conclusion that is typical BS spreading.   Trump is hated by the elftist media and the Demcorats and there so-called conspiracy theories are imagined.   Anybody opposing their agenda is vilified.   Sad to see that you fall for that kind of garbage.

The only real conspiracy theory was not even one - the Democrats concocted lies   about Russian Collusion and was helped along by the CIA and the FBI.    The BS was exposed as based entirely on Democratic Party concocted lies and it has since been exposed as such.    you fell for that one as well - so be happy in your prejudice.    I must admit it was a i laugh reading that article - it has no proof of anything bar political hate speech and fearmongering in it.  LMAO.             

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Sept 2022, 08:08
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2022, 08:16
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17 Sept 2022, 08:16#11

CC

Never said that ever - was proud to serve the poor people of all races when I worked and was active on the Natal North Coast - where I was directly involved in -

*    construction of the Albert Luthuli center in Groutville - which has since eben converted to a technical high school for artisan training; and

*    construction of three fully-serviced towns replacing slums and providing mre than 15 000 homes for the poor; and helping education facility development as well.

It is not pretending - it is based on fact.      I gained nothing from that at all.  Am a struggling pensioner finding it difficult to make ends meet now and despite that helps two poor families in Riversdale myself.      

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
17 Sept 2022, 08:25
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
18 Sept 2022, 00:23
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18 Sept 2022, 00:23#13

ouMaaik, Trompie's wearing a Q pin on his jacket & furthermore your flippant dismissal of the veracity of the article simply reveals your prejudices.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
18 Sept 2022, 00:26
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
18 Sept 2022, 00:41
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18 Sept 2022, 00:41#15

Trump didn't wear a Q pin, it was a photoshopped image.

Trump however decided to post the same photoshopped image on his "Truth" social media platform, effectively endorsing QAnon.

In pretty much any democratic country in the world other than the present day United States of America , endorsing such a position would be the end of one's political career.

How far has American politics fallen under Trump.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Sept 2022, 01:43
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18 Sept 2022, 01:43#16

Definitely not as far as under Biden.    At least Trump cannot be called a corrupt idiot - Biden is a corrupt idiot destroying democracy in the USA.     

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Sept 2022, 19:37
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18 Sept 2022, 19:37#17

I am on Gab and have been for two years or so. I have some 4, 500 odd followers and it keeps growing. 

Gab is a totally free speech forum. Andrew Torba, a Christian, laments some if the posts made but says it's the price of having a free speech forum and will not interfere. Bit like Ruckets. Ed doesn't interfere and hats off to him. 

On Gab the vast majority are great people and they are very well informed. Very little happens in America that doesn't get articles and comments on it. 

There are people from all over the world on Gab and it continues to grow and become a power house. 

I have seen people posting Q comments and discussion. Very often they are spot on. A little like Alex Jones on Info Wars who is having a surge in popularity as what he has been talking about for year, and what has been slammed as conspiracy theories, have proven to be correct. He has a knack of so often being ahead of the curve. 

I see the ignorant people here have not been commenting about what is happening at CNN. Honestly, the lack of awareness on this board is pathetic. 

Anyhow a Trump donor who is a billionaire has taken a large stake in CNN. CNN has fired some of its radical Marxist Globalist news hosts and demoted one out of prime time. Hopefully the purge will continue. 

A new CEO has been appointed and he is insisting that CNN focus on news and not propaganda. 

This has the far left NUTJOBS at CNN in a froth????????

CNN was of course circling the toilet viewership wise so something had to be done. 

Meanwhile Musk will be going to court in October boosted by revelations of the enormous number of left wing radical bots operating on Twitter. Pity you missed the article by an expert who did a study and calculation of the bots on Twitter. 

Perhaps after wining his case Musk will put in a far lower offer. But now everyone knows its was left wing bots who turned Twitter into a farce. I often come accross bots on my travels. They are easy to spot. 

The MSM are main stream no more. The alt media is more powerful and growing rapidly at the expense of the legacy media.

Yku have to be a brain dead moron to believe their outrageous propaganda. As dumb as poor sharktwit. Bwahahahaha. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Sept 2022, 19:41
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18 Sept 2022, 19:41#18

I wonder how many of you clowns watched Trump's magnificent speech in Ohio this weekend.

I go to Rumble.com and search for RSBN.

Man did he dismantle the Demonrats and Benedict Biden!

If you don't understand why Trump is so popular or why MAGA  is winning watch Trump at this rally.

Otherwise stay as ignorant as you are making a complete twit of yourself like sharktwit does every day. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Sept 2022, 19:46
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18 Sept 2022, 19:46#19

The meeting will be interesting. 

Ramaphosa has a lot of Globalist connections. Against that South Africa is part of BRICS and Africa has an antipathy toward the EU and, USA - due to their arrogance and anti humanity policies the EU and USA have an ever declining circle of friends.

So I expect Ramaphosa to try and play dopey old Joe for as much boodle as he can get while staying committed to BRICS and probably SCO as well.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Sept 2022, 09:46
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19 Sept 2022, 09:46#20

I saw an article where Ramaphosa defends Russia. Wanted to post it but had a power outage and internet was off. 

Seems my assessment was once again correct. 

Further there was news that Turkey, a NATO member wants to joining SCO!!! 

Had to mention this as doubtless legacy media dopes otherwise would never hear it. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Sept 2022, 20:45
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19 Sept 2022, 20:45#21

Qanon was a poster on 8Chan and when that got killed, 8Kun was started and gave him/her a platform. Qanon is blown way out of proportion by the media...it's not a organization or club or movement...it's a psyop involving a supposed Trump insider with Q security clearance...but in all probability it's just Dan Scavino larping...Pro Trump propaganda, but the fact that it's seen as a serious threat by the FBI is a joke...

There are more than 330M people in the USA....there's a lot of crazies on both sides.

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