Bozo told to put up or shut up . . .

The Democrat Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee - Jerrold Nadler - has invited Bozo to the first impeachment hearing on December 4th, adding that Bozo could either attend or else stop complaining about the process . . . in other words, telling Bozo to put on his big boy pants or stop whining like a pathetic litle bitch.

Knowing Bozo as we do, I'm guessing he'll carry on whining like a pathetic little bitch.

Bozo has until 1 December to confirm if he will attend the hearing or not. 

Lock him up!

My guess is he will avoid this pathetic attempt at a perjury trap.

I'm not an ardent anything politically, but Trump has been a successful president despite unprecedented opposition and you don't seem to have a clue what a perjury trap is.

Interesting point of view, Rooi.

Either take part in our farce or stop complaining about it...even though it's about you.

As if Trump not agreeing to take part legitimises it.

Here, I'll start a board smear campaign, full of lies, about you. And unless you commit to defending yourself under my rules, then you've got no right to complain. Sound fair? 

Cool. Now let me use the largest media organisations in the world, smear your name not just on this board to globally en masse, and lets see if you're still fine with it.

And of course, you've been entirely silent as to Republicans not being able to call witnesses during the enquiry. Hate beats fairness.

You've also been pretty mum on the polls showing how this impeachment fiasco is turning independents redder by the second.

Interesting to see Nadler's total 360 on impeachment since Billy got his willy seen to.

Hate is a funny thing Rooi. Not haha or peculiar, but tragic and telling.

Yes ... I believe he did withhold the aid ... however, the democrats haven't a shred of evidence proving this.

They're in a bit of a fix.

"which witnesses? The whistleblower who has rights to anonymity and protection?

What about the rights of the accused to face the accuser? He's got right to protection but no right to anonymity...that's a lefty addition to enable them to slander with impunity.

"The Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him." Generally, the right is to have a face-to-face confrontation with witnesses who are offering testimonial evidence against the accused in the form of cross-examination during a trial. The Fourteenth Amendment makes the right to confrontation applicable to the states and not just the federal government.[1] The right only applies to criminal prosecutions, not civil cases or other proceedings."

Careful now, Plum.

The big boys are talking here. They may say a few hurtful things and we wouldn't want you scurrying away all tearful again.

You know how sensitive you are.

Poor dear.

Dup lication

No Rooinek

The Republicans submitted a list of people to be called to testify and the Chairman Schiff refused to call them.   Giulani offered to testify and Schiff was shit-scared and did not call him.   Pompeo was never called to testify by Schiff and Bolton is a warmonger Trump kicked him out,  The witnesses Schiff did call up got so mangled that they could only produce hearsay evidence,

Under questioning they got so mixed up that they had to be protected by Schiff,   Two got caught out lying and that was bad news too.

The fact is that Trump  has ZERO obligation to appear before the House enquiry - he may or may not appear before the Senate - which is converted to a proper Court Hearing under the Chairmanship of the Chief Justice - where proper judicial procedures are followed, not the procedures Schiff decided upon.

Why did Trump withheld the military aid to Ukraine - and please note Obama refused outright to grant any military aid to Ukraine even when they were in a full blown war against Russia,   He was acting as Putin's bribed agent in that refusal and there is actual proof of it,  So lets give you the real reasons for holding back the military aid:-

*    There was military aid given to Ukraine under Trump before and a major portion of the money ended up in the pocket of Boris Pasternak - an arms manufacturer in Ukraine who has corrupt links with Schiff and Pelosi - the Ukraine being the most corrupt country in Europe.   Trump for the first time had a review done on Foreign aid and will not approve anything going to corrupt countries and that include arms to Ukraine.

*    The previous President of Ukraine (Poroshenko) was even more corrupt than his pro-Moscow predecessor and when an election was held in Ukraine in May 2019 he was defeated by Zelensky - whose main campaign was to fight corruption in Ukraine.    When he took over the Government in Ukraine the first action was to start implementing his corruption cleaning up campaign in Ukraine.   

*     Trump insisted that NATO member countries should also contribute on the same percentage basis as applicable to other activities as to arms provision to Ukraine  and they were not moving despite the fact that they have a bigger interest in Ukraine than the USA.

Trump was approached by Senator Johnson of Wisconsin on the issue and they discussed it in detail - Johnson afterwards made a public statement on the issue.   After dealing with  the above issues - Trump released the aid on the basis that NO money will be transferred to Ukraine itself,   The USA will buy Javelin Missiles directly and have the missiles delivered to Ukraine together with instructors to train Ukraine in the missile usage,

That story about Biden is total BS - Biden and his son was active in extremely questionable activities in Ukraine and Biden told Poroshenko to fire the Investigator who was investigating Burisma on the Board of which Hunter Biden was serving,   Biden claimed that The Prosecutor was corrupt himself and was not investigating Burisma.   He lied and the house of the Chairman of Burisma was raided before the Prosecutor was fired.   He also phoned Poroshenko three times after the raid and before he went to Ukraine threatening them that $1 billion of  US aid will be withheld if the prosecutor was not fired,  Biden himself told the firing story and his threat to Ukraine on TV.   

There is a huge difference in investigating Biden and what Trump asked during the conversation with Zelensky was about the political campaign issues involving Ukraine in the Russian hoax story in 2016 - clear request as per the transcript.   That is when Zelensky raised the Biden issue as part of Ukraine's own investigation of corruption and Trump said he was disturbed by what Biden himself said about withholding of aid and that Giulani has evidence on the issue and Zelensky could deal with him on it.

Trump would be totally irresponsible if there were bribery and corruption by a high-level US office-holder being investigated and he refused to help the country doing the investigation.  It had ZERO to do with the election campaign of 2020 at all.  If you believe that you will also believe the moon is made of green cheese.   

However, the story you came up with is the myth the Democrats are using in the Impeachment story and is not supported by any documented evidence at all.    This is  the third time the Democrats tried to start with an effort to impeach Trump and the first two misfired because it was based on distortion as to collusion between Trump and the Russians in the 2016 election of which Mueller could find zero evidence.   The Impeachment will go nowhere - because it is based on a myth created by Schiff and co.                   

LMFAO

Piss Mint has not been correct about anything over the last few years regarding certain bold statements that he has made to everyone on this forum

Please don't expect him to only start getting it correct now....

Talk about resilient

Trump has taken absolutely every single thing that has been thrown at him...….. absolutely everything

All the extremely personal stuff.....from all of his sons, his daughter, to his wives, to his "mistresses", his friends, his enemies, his finances, his taxes, his business deals, Russia, Ukraine.... being publicly accused and ridiculed with zero proof, calling into question his morals, his character, his integrity...…. still with fuck all proof materializing... nothing, nada, fokol despite all the very best resources at hand.... of the CIA, FBI, DOJ..... to name just a few

No other president has ever come remotely close to being investigated like this, and if they had, I wonder how many would have still been in office, like Trump still is now.

Fucking ridiculous...……. see it for what it is...…. witch hunt after witch hunt

It's a disgrace

or

d) ) Bozo did pressured Ukraine into investigating the Bidens and Burisma ... a prerequisite for military aid ... but no proof of this has been produced ... yet.

That's my vote.

a)    No such request was made and no pressure applied - President Zelensky publicly denied that there was any  pressure put on him at  all about anything,  

b)    No proof of that request was provided - all that was said at the hearings were that witnesses assumed it might be the case - but they provided no real evidence it happened.  Never proved that he did - military aid had nothing to do with Biden at all - the reasons were provided and proved by Senator Johnson.  There was nothing at all that can be regarded as an offence.  Even the witnesses said under oath that there was no reason for Impeachment.  

c)   Nobody in the USA is above the law and if there were any law broken in this case the DP is free to lay charges which they did not do.  The fact is Biden should not be above the law as well and there are some real corruption problems related to his  conduct, 

If Trump did request information on what the Biden's did under the previous administration, he would be very well within his rights, as president, to do so.

There has been zero proof provided so far, that he withheld aid to Ukraine unless he got what he wanted, and there has already been enough time to try and provide that proof

Trump knows himself that he is under incredible scrutiny, and even though his ego tends to get in the way of his mouth sometimes, I seriously doubt he is that stupid, knowing he is probably the most scrutinized and investigated president in the history of the USA.

I'm not a fan at all of Trump, but I detest the bully mentality of the democratic party, because they want to get rid of him because they don't like him...… just like Piss Mint, they refuse to see the good that he has done, such is their hate for the man

Holmes and Hill got caught out lying on two issues and neither of the four said there was anything done that warrant impeachment.   None of them produced any real proof  of what happened - they  assume some things which was their opinions but did not provide any proof of what really happened,   Comprehende?

By the way why should the President of Ukraine say there was no pressure on anything put on him by Trump and he was the one on the other side of the telecon that would know exactly what happened.   

Face it -  the media made a lot on the issues mentioned by witnesses - but never said what each of the witnesses said about whether or not impeachment is justified and neither did they mention that the evidence they provided was all assumptions they came to - no real evidence was provided at all.  They all said impeachment on the grounds they raised is not justified.

Yup ... afraid so ... you can't convict him or anyone else with what you have. Presumption and hearsay won't do ... no matter how credible the witness.

It's all you have. A whole lot of "I presumes" and "I believes" and "2 + 2s" ... it's just not going to happen.

Clear testimony? What evidence? You have nothing ... nothing at all. Produce it and you're good to go ... till then, sorry, Bozo walks free and probably into a 2nd term.

That wonderful word "yet".

Russia yet...obstruction yet...campaign fraud yet...destroyed America yet...yet yet YET!

There's a lot that hasn't happened yet, Rooi?

What has actually happened, in the real world, is that the US are stronger and all the stats that you want up are high and climbing. More blacks see through the racist left's rhetoric and independents are abandoning impeachment in Schettino like fashion. Soon there'll be a ton of embarrassment to add to the pot. 

All of it only serving to strengthen Trump's grip on the reins.

I've begun designing my bunker.

Rooinek

Both Ratcliffe and Jordan are top lawyers and members and they have never been caught out lying like Schiff did.    Your interpretation of what happened during their questioning is actually with respect total BS,   Some of their questions had the witness floundering and Schiff eventually helped them out.   

I have in the past  given evidence in Commissions of Enquiry and court cases,  My opinion on issues and what I belief is the case has no bearing whatsoever,   I had to give proof of what I say under oath  - opinions or what I remember without supporting proof count for zero in such cases. 

That is exactly why the Impeachment Enquiry has a very near to zero chance of going to reach the Senate and if it did the Chief Justice will deal with real proof and not political opinions on issues.   The problem is Schiff fucked up the process totally and he will end up having to give evidence as to his involvement in the compilation of the whistleblower complaint,  Looks ugly - Schiff is a moron.  He made tweets about exactly what was in the whistleblower report in the month before the report came out.  How did he do that?                

That has all to do with the criminal conduct of the Obama Administration in the 2016 election campaign and it refers to the investigation of Barr and Durham dealing with that issue,  There is no quid-pro-quo and zero mention of Biden in that paragraph you quoted,

Instead of using a secure server - Clinton was using crowdstrike as a security means,  Crowdstrike is a system owned by an Ukrainian billionaire who donated $29 million to the Clinton Foundation. Another example of bribery and corruption,           

Just ask yourself the question - what issue did Mueller deal with?  The election of 2016 issue or the  Biden issue?      

Poor rooibozo being schooled again and again but too dumb to understand the lesson! Hahhahahahaha so typical.

The pathetically biased process put in place by Schiff should have alerted rooibozo that something was wrong but no being so bent himself he never noticed it. The Ukranians never even knew the aid was being paused!!!! Sondkland the only on e to have direct contact with Trump was told by Trump he wanted Nothing from Ukraine and there was to be NO Quid Pro Quo! NOT a single witness produced and evidence of wrong doing. Neither has that clown rooibozo produced any evidence. Hence the American public turning against the impeachmentCOUP!

There were 4 trans-scripts never produced. These people were never allowed to testify at the open hearing Take a look at this!!!

OMB Official Blows Up Schiff Impeachment Sham – Testifies Ukraine Aid Temporarily Held Up Because Other Countries Weren’t Helping

Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaa!!

You are as desperate as the democrats. I can almost see you frothing at the mouth. 

Specifics, Redneck ... specifics.

That transcriptions doesn't say anything at all. Do you see the Biden's name mentioned anywhere? How about threatening to hold back aid? I've checked it again ... and ... well ... there's nothing at all.

I will need the original voice recording where Trump can be heard saying he wants the Bidens investigated and until he receives a satisfactory report, he'll with-hold all military aid.

Do you have that?

No.

What do you have?

You have a whole lot of "well, I presumed that that was what he meant" and "yes, 2+2 makes 4".

Common Redneck. You can do better than that.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaa!!! And I thought I had issues.

Who needs more evidence than Bozo's own "transcript"?

No ... sorry ... your desperate frothing at the mouth needs a little more hard evidence to sway me.

I'm not sold on your "believe me" plea.