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CDC Admits Covid ‘Vaccines’ Don’t Work

Started by Beeno127 REPLIES609 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2021, 13:06
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Jul 2021, 13:06
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31 Jul 2021, 13:06#1


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the guidance they issue regarding Covid-19. On one hand, they need to get the word out about the latest dizzying spin to their “scientific” protocols. On the other hand, they have to explain why their guidance is in such a state of chaos, changing just as quickly today as it did when very little was known about the “novel coronavirus” early last year.


This week, they made changes to their guidance, and one item, in particular, got a lot of attention. But there was an even bigger admission by the CDC that went largely unnoticed. While most were busy complaining about the new face mask guidelines for everyone, vaccinated or not, there was little discussion about the item just below that particular guidance that essentially admits the “vaccines” don’t really do what we’ve been told they would do for the past eight months.


“Added a recommendation for fully vaccinated people who have a known exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 to be tested 3-5 days after exposure, and to wear a mask in public indoor settings for 14 days or until they receive a negative test result.” – CDC Guidance Additions


The whole idea of a “vaccine” is to prevent infections from viruses. Until the definitions were changed to accommodate the Covid injections’ lack of efficacy, it was always assumed if you get vaccinated, you’re protected against that disease. Why, then, does the CDC recommend vaccinated individuals get tested if they’ve come in contact with someone suspected of having Covid-19? Why aren’t more doctors speaking up about what they know to be true regarding these “vaccines”?

The answers that they will never say explicitly but that the statistics clearly reveal is that the “vaccines” do not work at preventing the disease from spreading. This is why the spikes continue. It’s why high-profile, fully-vaccinated people keep testing positive. And it’s why the places with the highest percentage of vaccinated people continue to suffer from infection rates that are equal to or higher than areas of lower vaccine coverage.

Some will argue that the vaccines mitigate symptoms of Covid-19, but the same people won’t mention that studies show Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, among other treatments, have demonstrated much higher effectiveness in treating Covid-19 than the so-called “vaccines.”

We are being instructed by government, mainstream media, academia, Big Tech, and vaccine-nannies across the nation to get vaccinated to stop Covid-19. But even the CDC acknowledges that it does not stop infection from the coronavirus. Why would they be telling us to get the Covid shots that are essentially treatments rather than vaccines when there are better treatments available? Why are they panning these other treatments that have been safely used for decades while the experimental Covid injections have demonstrated extremely high rates of adverse effects, including thousands of deaths? PLEASE NOTE OAKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

It’s taboo to acknowledge that Ivermectin and other treatments work better at mitigating symptoms of Covid-19 than the so-called “vaccines.” If the “vaccines” do not protect us from infection in the first place, why are they being pushed so hard?

WE SHOULD BY NOW KNOW WHY. THE "COVID" HOAX IS BEING USED BY GLOBALISTS TO HELP HEIR NO ONE WORLD GOVRNMENT AGNDA. IT IS AS CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT. HERD THE SHEEPIES. MAIN MEANS IS USED ARE OPEN BORDERS AND ANYTHING TO DESTROY THE NATION STAE. IF COVID NEEDS HELP USE MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE, FINANCIAL CRISES OR THRET OF WW3 - ARGUMENT IS ONLYA GLOBAL GOVERNMENT CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND OH YES , GET RID OF THE USELSS EATERS AND BRING THE WOLD OPULATION DOWN TO 500 MILLIONS.

OF COURSE OU ROOITIT IS A USELESS OVER EATER BUT I PLEAD FOR HIS LIFE TO BE SPARED.  HIS COMIC VALUE IS UNMATCHED!

 

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
31 Jul 2021, 13:45
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31 Jul 2021, 13:45#2

You are the globalist pushing your doctrine.
Oil companies pay churches to promote dogma that climate change is a hoax pushed by the one world order. A bit of reverse psychology and anything that is not part of the official dogma is the one world order...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Aug 2021, 20:11
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02 Aug 2021, 20:11#3

FFS

The whole idea of a “vaccine” is to prevent infections from viruses. Until the definitions were changed to accommodate the Covid injections’ lack of efficacy, it was always assumed if you get vaccinated, you’re protected against that disease. 


What utter balls, people have been vaccinated for Flu for years with the knowledge it’s not a guarantee. These okes  HasBeen reads are so stupid they can’t stop shooting themselves in the foot.

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becsPro4,378 posts
03 Aug 2021, 01:06
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03 Aug 2021, 01:06#4

No, a vaccination just ensures that, if you do catch the virus, it shouldn’t be as severe. That’s been known since forever. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Aug 2021, 08:53
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03 Aug 2021, 08:53#5
I wonder if the anti-vax crowd realize that they're sheeple too, mindlessly following nonsense like "vaccines prevent infection".
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Aug 2021, 09:09
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03 Aug 2021, 09:09#6
Pakie...what's your take on the long term safety of the vaccines? Aren't you somehow involved in the pharmaceutical industry?
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Aug 2021, 09:23
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03 Aug 2021, 09:23#7

Draad I freely admit I am too stupid to understand everything. But from the online research (he he) I've done, the flu shot that so many people take every year, the yellow fever shot they're forced to take when travelling to areas where it's a problem, just those two for example have some of the same rare side effects (like GBS for the J&J covid vaccine), yet people take them without thinking twice or kicking up a fuss. Best I can figure out serious side effects for vaccines show up within months, not years. So I don't know if this "long term safety" is really a thing.

As to the value of the vaccine - well, it's clearly not going to prevent the virus from spreading, and since the virus mutates all the time it's not going to make anyone immune. It's probably going to be a flu shot type of deal that you have to get regularly. I don't see how you can ever be completely immune to a mutating virus, that's why the flu is still coming around year after year.

But that's my uneducated take anyway. Who knows. I'm not in pharmaceuticals, by the way.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Aug 2021, 09:48
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03 Aug 2021, 09:48#8

Thanks...my take too...in 10 years time, this will be like the flu and nobody will think about it much...

I've never taken the flu shots, because I just never bothered, but me and my family are fully vaxed up on all the regular shots...even paid for extra shots for the kids...but I'm a bit uncomfortable about the covid vaccines.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2021, 10:47
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03 Aug 2021, 10:47#9

"You are the globalist pushing your doctrine.
Oil companies pay churches to promote dogma that climate change is a hoax pushed by the one world order. A bit of reverse psychology and anything that is not part of the official dogma is the one world order..."

Stop being a conspiracy theorist please, VisKop.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
03 Aug 2021, 12:33
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03 Aug 2021, 12:33#10

@ButtPlug,

Of course, the church is on the corporate payroll, as are many politicians. 
Nothing has changed here since the dark ages. 

Anytime something like the minimum wage is increased, the people who would benefit the most from this- are saying it is communism and socialism- the devil- the end of the world etc, etc. 
However, it is all fine that half of the US largest companies pay no corporate tax...

These simpletons have no understanding of economics, so they are getting the information from their local church. Same as Covid vaccines etc.

These people do not think, they just regurgitate what their churches tell them. It is pretty obvious when they all have the same opinion (e.g. anti-vaxxers). 

Smarter conservatives are all vaccinated, including people who criticize vaccines. The dummies are following the advice of their local pastor...and will die. 
The Democrats (less religious) are mostly vaccinated, while the Dumb conservatives are experiencing the next wave.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 14:23
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03 Aug 2021, 14:23#11

SB

The minimum wage issue is rubbish to say the least.   Payment of wages by employers can be increased without having inflationary affects - but that is when companies themselves decide on their own  and not the Government.   Increase of minimum wages by the Government without regard to the viability of employers cause havoc - they either close down their businesses because it is financially unviable - reduce their workforce to the level where they may retain viability or just increase their prices to cover the  increased wages and retain viability.  The latter is where inflation is the main problem result.

To add an inbrease of taxation of he wealthy is supported by many - but the result remains to same  as was indicated  above.    so who are the wealthy that would suffer - does it include middle income companies with a net income of less than $200 000 as well.  Those are the companies that would go out of business - because the government would tax them out of existence..   For the rest the major employers and big tech will just increase the prices of  their goods and services  to maintain their profit margins.  The middle and lower income will  be the sufferers because of inflation.  .

What the Opposition to the crazy economic approach is called communism, but it is not really communism and total disregard  of normal economic impacts.    What is Communism is destruction of the economic base of countries and resultant poverty of the masses bar the top politicians and the ultra-rich collaborating with each other in a dictatorial regime..

It is simpletons like you who have no understanding of economics and come up with bizarre statements.     When Reagan increased taxation in the 1980's the real income of the Government went down and not up as the theorists believed.   He learned quickly and the next year cancelled the increase and the net income again went further up.

Now for your allegation  - what cause people to be uneasy about the vaccination process has nothing to do with the  Church and everything to do with the Government mixed messages.   The Democrats blamed Trump for an inadequate response top the  China virus threat - but if you look at it now at least Trump got the fast speed  vaccine  program in place    Since January 2021  the process went from one crisis to the next. and became more chaotic by the day,   I can name a dozen decisions that was made and  then countermanded  the next week.    Even the New York Times and Washington Post are getting uneasy and ask for the stats the Government base decisions on.   

Fact is the majority of  people have been imprisoned in the political  issues relating to the virus.   If the virus  issue was not politicized by the Democrats  the  resistance against vaccination would have been reduced drastically.    The latest survey published elsewhere confirms the distrust of the majority of people of the present regime and reacted negatively to Government programs.   That is a more major problem influencing  people not to be vaccinated than religion could ever be.          

The problem is that you believe in garbage as well.   Only 30% of the Blacks - a major voting block of the Democrats  - are vaccinated  with 88% supporting the DP..    Of the Latino's 40% has ben vaccinated - but we know since  January there were over 2 million illegal migrants that entered the country on the invitation of Biden and none have been vaccinated  so Biden is really putting in place huge super-spreader processes.    That also solidify distrust of the Government and resulted in vaccination scepticism.    .   

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
03 Aug 2021, 14:44
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03 Aug 2021, 14:44#12
It is nothing to do with religion...yet why is it that most anti-vaxxers are religious? That is not a coincidence. The dummies think it is the mark of the beast... 
Every single anti-vaxxer on this board is part of the far-right religious Abrahamic Muslim reality. (e.g. Beeno, Arthur Martha John etc, etc). 

Blacks and Latinos that are not vaccinated- are just as stupid as the Trumpanzee.
At least they have some common ground. 

Europe has a minimum hourly pay, and it is not communist.
It is ridiculous to pay someone $5 dollars per hour.  
It is more important that society does well as a whole, instead of having someone like Jeff Bezos from Amazon exempt from paying tax - or paying employees peanuts that is below a reasonable average wage. 

The Republican politicians want corporates to pay less tax - because it means they get a better bribe from billionaires. Some Democrat politicians are on the same boat. 
A dumb Trumpanzee is too stupid to vote. The average Demographics show these are not first world people, they are monkeys. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
03 Aug 2021, 14:56
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03 Aug 2021, 14:56#13

COVID-19, cults, and the anti-vax movement - The Lancet

https://www.thelancet.com › lancet › article › fulltextby S Mylan · 2021 · Cited by 2 — and imply participatory community engagement as a means to engage only people with vaccine hesitancy. Lessons from studying cults (which are ...

Religion and vaccine refusal are linked. We have to talk about ...

https://www.vox.com › religion-vaccine-refusal
19 Jun 2019 — “We're down to 15 states that have philosophical exemptions to vaccines and we have 45 states that have religious exemptions,” said Paul ...

Christian nationalism is a barrier to mass vaccination against ...

https://theconversation.com › christian-nationalism-is-a-...
1 Apr 2021 — Christian nationalists are far less likely to be vaccinated than other groups, research has found. Some evangelical leaders are trying to ..
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
03 Aug 2021, 15:02
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03 Aug 2021, 15:02#14

Fact is the majority of  people have been imprisoned in the political  issues relating to the virus.   If the virus  issue was not politicized by the Democrats  the  resistance against vaccination would have been reduced drastically.

That's not fact, that's a load of bollocks.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Aug 2021, 15:19
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03 Aug 2021, 15:19#15

Beeno

I have no idea what this is, but it is not "just the flu"

Each to their own, and I fully respect that....believe what you want to, as will I..... however,  I can attest to the fact, that this is definitely no ordinary yearly sniffles that one is accustomed to getting, that you just get some meds for, to make it go away.

Too many people are dying from this..... in my personal surroundings, that is a substantiated absolute fact of life...... and no normal infection or virus that I have ever known, does what I have already seen.

I sincerely hope that we don't lose anyone on this board to it, because this virus is as certain as the fact that we are born, and we die.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 16:14
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03 Aug 2021, 16:14#16

+Stav

You must have missed it - but the Democrat political election campaogn was based on the pandemic from the word go - but added to later by racism and the Russian Hoax about Putin paying a bounty to the Taliban to kill US soldiers.   

That is a fact and the crescendo of the media attacking Trump on the  pandemic issue was oon for 7/24 .    The problem is that the USA is politically a deeply divided country and Biden's one campaign promise was to heal that division.    What he did since then was to formant the Division further by a political program that  now is rated as even more divisive  that it used to be as per the opinion pole I referred to elsewhere..

That division is wore now than ever before and drove away the moderates from the Democrats.   Fact is whatever Biden and the Democrats  say the people would distrust and oppose it.   That is also the case with the vaccination issue and  is directly linked to the Biden Administration mismanagement of virtually everything they touch.    .       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2021, 16:23
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03 Aug 2021, 16:23#17

Well said DA…..there has been a lot of dishonesty about a disease that kills older and vulnerable people. That dishonesty has come from both sides of the political aisle and far too many physicians have been guilty.

We are like the South American Indians when first exposed to European diseases…wide open. Vaccinations and people getting  the disease will gradually build up partial protection. But new waves are going to be a fact of  life.

Really understanding why the Delta variant which looked set to burn through India seems to have faded would be helpful.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2021, 16:36
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03 Aug 2021, 16:36#18

Tell me, Viskop

Are you under the impression that minimum wage is a good thing?

I really look forward to the answer to this one.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 16:47
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03 Aug 2021, 16:47#19

Mozart

Under another thread I refer to  the YouGov poll which I mentioned above as well..    Did you have a look at the poll findings and what is your opinion on that one, please.      

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Aug 2021, 17:03
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03 Aug 2021, 17:03#20


Honesty is what was called for but instead, we got politics, censorship and lies.

Any idiot understands that the scientific community would not be fully versed on a novel virus. But instead of them keeping people up to date and admitting where they made mistakes, they incorrectly censored people, banned discussions relating to even general health and caused inquiries as to the source of the virus to be labeled racist, bigotted - only to do 180 later on.

The reason many people don't trust the vaccines has nothing to do with denying science and a lot more to do with not trusting the people developing and touting it. And with good reason.

Take Fauci, for example - First, he is adamant that the virus never came from a lab. Then we learn of his emails. Now we know that he likely lied and knew that GOF was being carried out in Wuhan. Thanks to $ky, we also know that the very bats that the virus is said to come from were also kept at that lab.

$o here's the guy leading the charge against the virus in the U$, and it seems for all the world that he's acting in self-interest and/or lying. At best, bending the truth entirely out of shape.

How the hell are people supposed to make rational decisions when those giving them vital information come across as untrustworthy. Fauci is just one example. What about all the politicians mandating lockdowns and then being snapped on holiday or out with pals completely disobeying their own rules.

Perhaps people would also place blame on Trump. For me, nothing he said caused me to mistrust him. The guy is the type that would want to take credit not always due to him and the spotlight when there is somebody more qualified in the moment to do so, but I always got the impression that he was being honest about what he did and didn't know. And even if he didn't know much, it was still heaps better than someone knowing a lot more but bloody lying.

The response to this pandemic hasn't been a failure of science but rather a massive failure in leadership. Certainly, the biggest failure in my lifetime.



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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
03 Aug 2021, 18:18
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03 Aug 2021, 18:18#21
ButtPlug, a truly capitalist system with a market state of Perfect Competition may work with no minimum wage. Markets would set wages, by supply and demand.
This would require lots of competitors in each industry to work properly. At present competition is declining with more global corporates. 
However, in the current market condition, 97% of the wealth is owned by 3% of the population. 
It is global monopolies and oligopolies that own nearly all the money - which gives them the leverage they need to bribe politicians. 

Capitalism without competition is not capitalism. It is more like a communist economy with no freedom of choice. It creates an environment where suppliers control the market, not the other way around. 

So, in the current market s tate it makes sense to bring in "some" regulation (or socialist practices) like minimum wage. 

If we were all born in a world of Capitalism with Perfect Competition, my opinion would be different. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Aug 2021, 19:08
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03 Aug 2021, 19:08#22

SB

You have summed up the situation in the present USA Regime 100%.    The richest people in the USA - also involved  in China -  is in charge in the USA at present.  Biden is corrupt and weak and so is a lot of the other senior Democrats .    They decide what must be censored  and is in close alliance with Biden on that one.

The fact is Biden has not raised the minimum wage issue after the election campaign and one is waiting to see what he is going to do about it.   As to the  Capitalists they are pressing for the new Election Law which would be an asset for the Democrats to strengthen their support by fraudulent means.    That would enable them to ensure all future elections are fraudulent as well and the Regime would be a one-party dictatorship similar to China/   In any event that is what the big capitalists wants to achieve/ anyway,      

Unless they can get the Law legalizing election fraud through things look very bad for the Democrats in 2022 and 2024.   

Anyway - whatever they bring in will not benefit the .ordinaary people - they would end up poorer than they are at present.             

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
03 Aug 2021, 19:43
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03 Aug 2021, 19:43#23

Why would corporates want to support someone who raises corporate taxes, and wealth income tax?
 It is certain the US government under the Democrats will collect more tax money from the rich. (Even if they steal some of it themselves). 
Under Trump, more than half of US corporates paid no tax. Never has it been so bad. 

In the US, both parties are on the Corporate payroll. About 50% of Democrats are on the corporate payroll with about 90% of the Republicans.

The Democrats are offering a better deal to more people, even if many of them are also on the take. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 08:19
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04 Aug 2021, 08:19#24

"The human body has dealt with virus's for thousands of years and has been able to develop immunity. What I fear is mans attempts to modify our immune system and in the end cause worse effects."

Copie d.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Aug 2021, 08:30
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04 Aug 2021, 08:30#25

Well said moz and Plum, I fully agree with you

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Aug 2021, 08:48
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04 Aug 2021, 08:48#26

"The human body has dealt with virus's for thousands of years and has been able to develop immunity. What I fear is mans attempts to modify our immune system and in the end cause worse effects"

Agreed

However, imagine waiting for the human body to naturally develop immunity for just some of these viruses listed below.....

Polio

Tetanus

Influenza

Hepatitus A

Hepatitus B

Rubella

Hib

Measles

Mumps

Whooping Cough

Rotavirus

Chickenpox

Diphtheria

Meningitis

Vaccines stopped these viruses from becoming a daily threat to mankind....


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:04
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04 Aug 2021, 12:04#27
The religious simpletons... 

Survival of the fittest, Covid is going to g et a lot of the religious anti-vaxxers, so their numbers will dwindle. 
With religion already fading out, and Covid taking out the anti-vaxxers, religion is on its way out even faster than expected. 
It may even be God's will that anti-vaxxers die as part of the survival of the fittest. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Aug 2021, 12:45
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04 Aug 2021, 12:45#28

"However, imagine waiting for the human body to naturally develop immunity for just some of these viruses listed below....."

Indeed, it's a balancing of risk, but it's very difficult if you can't be sure of the risks either side.

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