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Communist Michael Moore debunks the hypocritcal greenies and cause leftist uproar!

Started by Beeno19 REPLIES417 VIEWS· 28 Apr 2020, 13:19
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Apr 2020, 13:19
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28 Apr 2020, 13:19#1

Lots to talk about here oaks but before commenting oaks like the nutjob sharkvirus should actually watch the clip.

You Tube froze the view numbers on the 21st April. They also disabled the like and dislike buttons. They want to delete the clip but are in a quandary as Moore is a far left communist like them. But take a peak as they might delete the clip.

On my post about two California Drs i told Plum cases today of censorship and of violation of rights. Plum had posted an excellent post which i responded to.


Watch this clip. Moore makes a lot of good points but misses some things.








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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Apr 2020, 18:37
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28 Apr 2020, 18:37#2

Good watch and exactly what I suspected and expected. Horrible reality.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Apr 2020, 23:25
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28 Apr 2020, 23:25#3

Some horrific stuff here. 

Moore discounts he possibility of science finding any solutions re energy. 

I actually do believe makind should stabilize the population but not through killing unborns,  Some countries like India and China etc are so overpopulated life quality is poor. Work on education and proper contraception. 

Abortions, infanticide and killing people via vaccines, bad food, bad medicine etc are a big no. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2020, 00:05
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29 Apr 2020, 00:05#4
Thanks for posting this HasBeen....
1 Limit population to today’s levels.
2 Use Nuclear by far the least polluting energy source.
3 Electric cars make sense for cities and work as a companion to nuclear.
5 Get more efficient to preserve the gift of oil for future generations as well.
As the documentary suggests, wind and solar are not an answer, probably an inefficient addendum to basic energy, spawned by subsidies. 
Most biofuels energy is a scam and a crime, risking the forests in a way not seen since the great For ests of England were burned up in the 17th century.
And most ‘clean’ fuel we buy is underpinned by oil and gas. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2020, 17:13
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29 Apr 2020, 17:13#5

Moore’s piece points out the distortions, lies and hidden costs of ‘alternative energy’. In all likelihood burning oil remains the only practical answer to much of our needs.


But some are concerned resultant temp increases threaten us.....I‘m not. I think studying exotic viruses in labs threatens us. But let’s accept their view for the moment.


I do believe that our consumption of limited resources as outlined in the movie, does threaten our descendants. The idea that we can do without all these things places a huge burden on future generations to innovate, just to survive. That’s an unfair hurdle man hasn’t faced in the past.


So I’m all for any way of preserving resources. Here’s a simple way. The Honda Odessey is a 7 seat Wagon that can accommodate most families. With modern engine technology it flies 0 to 100 ks in 7 seconds.

Now go back to 1965....the faster four door sedans were running about 10 seconds 0 to 100. And that was fine.....fast enough, enjoyable.


In fact I would argue the fun factor in cars has not increased since those days. Many of today’s cars are just too fast. Drive a Ferrari Enzo for example and it slams through the gears in a series of brief explosions that are over in a blink. Wind out an old Alfa GTV and the experience is much richer.


So suppose we reset performance to say 1970 levels. We’ll save at a guess  25% or more in terms of fuel. And I’m guessing a 25% fuel reduction would swamp any benefit we are likely to see from alternative fuels for many years. 


Piece of cake....so far the car companies have been focused on better performance with no more fuel....put the emphasis on satisfactory performance with way less fuel. And let’s stop destroying the earth the way Moore demonstrated.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Apr 2020, 17:38
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29 Apr 2020, 17:38#6
For a while now, I have maintained that we have a problem, that problem is much bigger than what's being propagated by the mainstream Greenies. This easy fix gives a false sense of security and just an excuse for some in control to scheme more cream fro the top. CO2 emissions is only the tip of iceberg of awaiting disasters...the least of them IMO. We are being played by the  so called "do-gooders" like Al Gore...love how this charlatan was exposed in this clip...Branson too. It's time humanity wakes up.If you hear the word philanthropist, be skeptic, very skeptic. Start looking for dirt.
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
29 Apr 2020, 17:42
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29 Apr 2020, 17:42#7

Strange times we live in with Michael Moore getting praise from the right wing and Piers Morgan getting praise from the left.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Apr 2020, 17:43
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29 Apr 2020, 17:43#8

Did you watch the video?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2020, 18:12
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29 Apr 2020, 18:12#9

The playbook is so obvious. Find a ‘good’ cause. Create some social pressure around the cause through the ever gullible, activist media. Identify the business activities that you can link to the cause.

Create ‘investment opportunities in these companies’ where you rake the cream off the top as experts and portfolio managers.  Super charge your returns by getting government subsidies which help these portfolios. 

Then like McKibbe n, the sainted environmentalist, you claim that you never received any money from an Environmental Group.

There are many people in the environmental movement who believe in the cause, there are also many people ....influential people....who believe in the money.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Apr 2020, 18:29
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29 Apr 2020, 18:29#10

The cause is noble, the solution being peddled is not...nothing but a big lie and the mainstream greenies are in on it.

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