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Congratulations Poland . . .

Started by Rooinek24 REPLIES759 VIEWS· 05 Sept 2019, 15:01
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2019, 15:01
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05 Sept 2019, 15:01#1

A week ago, Bozo cancelled his trip to Poland to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II.


Bozo's reasons for cancelling the trip were because hurricane Dorian was approaching and he wanted to stay home and "make sure the federal government is prepared for a looming hurricane headed for Florida".


Well, it's quite clear judging by recent events that Bozo didn't exactly add any value to the hurricane effort . . . in fact, all Bozo did was panic the people of Alabama into abandoning their homes after making a mistake on Twitter and then, because he couldn't admit to his mistake, he doctored a weather forecast report and lied about which areas might be affected. So much for making sure everyone was prepared!


What Bozo did do was play golf instead and on the day of the commemoration (Sunday September 1) Bozo was asked if he had a message for the people of Poland . . . given that he had chosen to play golf rather than attend the commemoration as scheduled . . . and Bozo's reply?


"I just want to congratulate Poland. It's a great country with great people.


"Congratulations"? For being invaded by the Nazis and losing more people in the war than any other country? Bozo thinks congratulations are in order?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Sept 2019, 15:46
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05 Sept 2019, 15:46#2
No congratulate Poland for it's indomitable spirit, emerging from the thrall of two cruel invading powers......and for the bravery of it's fighters, particularly the Polish pilots who were among the most skilled and successful flyers in the Battle of Britain. Man you are one ignorant fool.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Sept 2019, 17:50
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05 Sept 2019, 17:50#3

Indecent obsession...

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
05 Sept 2019, 17:53
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05 Sept 2019, 17:53#4

You don't congratulate a country on the anniversary of it being invaded by a foreign power. Its customary to have a day of remembrance for all those who suffered and those who lost their lives during the days of Nazi and later Communist occupation.

Congratulations would be more appropriate on the anniversary of the countries liberation or the end of a dark period in a countries history.

Another gaff from the current POTUS but at this stage most countries around the world have stopped caring and are just waiting for the day he's out of office so they can go back to having normal relations with the US.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Sept 2019, 18:10
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05 Sept 2019, 18:10#5

Normal relations = exploiting in most cases....the world will probably never be "normal" again...too many sheeple woke up to the BS.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
05 Sept 2019, 18:40
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05 Sept 2019, 18:40#6
The idea that the world is exploiting the US is largely a construct of Donald Trump, a foreign enemy to rally his support base against.
The world may never be "normal" again in the sense that Trump may have diminished the US standings in the eyes of the world and it never gets its status or influence back to the level it was pre-Trump.
Very few countries across the world have expressed support for Trump. There is a few exceptions like Israel, but for the most part both the governments and general population of most countries strongly dislike him, I'd even go as far as saying a lot of people absolutely despise him and everything he stands for. America is still far too important a country for another country to simply tell Trump to "f**k off" so most are just biting their tongues and waiting him for to be gone.
I suspect in the end most people will awaken to the dangers of popularism.  
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
05 Sept 2019, 18:44
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05 Sept 2019, 18:44#7
Having most of the world dislike Trump is not a good sign. Even in America, there has never been a president with such a polarised view. 
I don't think Trump will win the next election. It seems like the discern to Trump is growing. He is making an embarrassment of the US government on Twitter especially. 
If the economy was to take a blip, Trump is gone. This has been his saving grace...
However, 8 years is a lot longer to be sure about a president's effect on the economy. Any government that cuts civil services, and reduces taxes are going to increase revenue and reduce cost in the short term. 
However, over 8 years things will even out. If a president reduces the civil service budget too much, they will just lose the 2nd term as the left and centre will outnumber the further right in votes. 
If the US economy can keep growing, he could stay in a second term. I see Trump is trying to force a reduction in interest rates to increase borrowing to make the American consumers confident they can consume more. Given America has such a high national debt, this is not a good idea. It is cheating, so he can get a second term. It is also how Trump managed companies, before turning them into train wrecks to be sold off.
American has funded NATO, but they have been the warmongering nation of the West. At least Trump is pulling his troops out. 
When someone works in the government, they are a public servant. It should be an honour to be a president. Trump seems like a spoilt rich kid that has an ego out of control. When you look at the photos of when he was younger, he looks like a nothing. Some nerd that inherited lots of money. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Sept 2019, 19:26
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05 Sept 2019, 19:26#8
The only alternatives to Trump have Trillion dollar Climate Change Plans. He is the fiscally sensible alternative. The US Economy is roaring not just because of the tax cuts, but because of the regulation changes and the generally positive climate for business. This despite the Trade drag Trump was willing to take on, because Chinese abuses had to be addressed. Delivering economic results and addressing the long term trade abuses should be a winning formula, but it's tough going because of the disinformation from the media. Take Stavanger, he thinks it's a myth that the US market is being exploited......when the average tariffs for US goods going into foreign markers is substantially higher than the tariffs going into the US. And that doesn't even begin to address the other barriers to entry.....the requirement for local participation in China, the multiplicity of distribution arrangements, all the regulatory barriers. In the US you make a deal with Walmart and Amazon and you are into the mainstream......easy as pie. It's not always been pretty, but Trump has delivered.......he could have delivered so much more if he hadn't been resisted at every turn by the Democrats. It's possible the country may tire of him by next year, but what they will get as an alternative is much, much worse. Every one of the Democratic candidates is unqualified. What they are proposing would be a calamity for the world.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
05 Sept 2019, 20:35
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05 Sept 2019, 20:35#9

Tax cuts are good for business, as is reduced interest rates - but it means less public service- that is funded by tax.

The richest people in any country always want to cut public services as they do not use them. So reducing tax does increase production and the private sector profit, but given America has a massive amount of debt - there has to be another way to increase revenue- while also maintaining public services.

Trump has implemented quick wins, but what is his long term strategy.

If anyone made a radical change, it will have short term benefits. However, over 8 years it might not be the case. Otherwise, the best option would be to have no interest rate, or tax. 




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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Sept 2019, 20:59
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05 Sept 2019, 20:59#10

Trump is not as disliked as the media portrays. The media is disliked to that level. Perception versus reality. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Sept 2019, 21:28
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05 Sept 2019, 21:28#11

Trade deficit = exploitation. 

Not paying your full dues to NATO is exploitation. 

If the USA impose tariffs, it's bad and a trade war, if thd other countries does it', it's supporting their industry....you can't make this BS up...and people lap up this non stop propaganda?

China has been exploiting the whole world for decades. They have a very bad record when it comes to human rights and environmental issues, in fact, probably the only good thing you can say about them is that they are hard working. If Trump does not stand up to them now, they'll probably rule the world in a decade or 2....and trust me, they will be much worse than the Nazi's....yet nobody else seems to notice.  China pays a lot of people in a lot of countries and a lot of publications to report favourably on them...and they probably meddle more in the US elections than the Ruskies.

Like I said, Trump is doing the world a favour...

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
05 Sept 2019, 21:36
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05 Sept 2019, 21:36#12
I do agree that China is exploiting lots of countries. The Chinese have their own free software versions of products like Microsoft Windows, instead of paying to use it. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Sept 2019, 21:55
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05 Sept 2019, 21:55#13

China do as they please and they get away with it because they pay off politicians all over the world...there are more than a few nervous politicians in the USA ATM. ..including the Clintons...money is tempting and China had lots of it to throw at politicians and journalists, even have university professors spreading their propaganda here in South Africa....

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Sept 2019, 22:12
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05 Sept 2019, 22:12#14

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Sept 2019, 00:20
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06 Sept 2019, 00:20#15

"Posted by: sharkbok (9588 posts)

Sep 05, 2019, 20:35

Tax cuts are good for business, as is reduced interest rates - but it means less public service- that is funded by tax."

Of course tax cuts is good for business. When businesses pay less tax, they can invest in their infrastructure which means more spending which means more income to the other businesses they buy from. It also means they make more money on which they pay tax. The tax rates are lower but the physical amount of taxes rises due to increased economic activity. Ultimately it boils down to increased income for businesses which leads to higher employment. That is exactly what happened in the UK. Lowered tax rates lead to higher employment as well as more pounds and pennies in taxes being collected. The same thing happened in the USA after Trump brought in the tax cuts.

Economics 101. Did these lefties who want to tax the rich to death not pay attention in class? 

Both the Dems in the USA and Kommisar Corbynov in the UK seems to sing from the "Raise Corporate Taxes to 70%" hymn book.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Sept 2019, 00:43
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06 Sept 2019, 00:43#16
Ask Illinois and New York what high taxes have done for them.....simply ensured that people move to low tax states, losing the whole tax return, not just the part that is subject to higher taxes. If the federal rate hits 70%, tax revenues wont increase for long......there is a limit to the taxes people will pay before they and their employers change behaviour.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
06 Sept 2019, 00:58
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06 Sept 2019, 00:58#17

@Ceradunce, the people that decide interest rates in a country have 101 in Economics, they are typically some of the best financial minds in their country. 

Trump wants to override their recommendations and reduce interests rates. This is usually only done during recessions to give the economy a short term boost- like the 2009 recession. 

A country in massive debt like America, should not be reducing interest rates unless it is absolutely essential- like the last recession. The economic collapse in 2009-2011 was also known as the credit crunch.  Too low-interest rates turn money into monopoly cash and are not the true value of money. So the irresponsible lending (not based on collateral) is what crashed the economy. 

I favour having lower tax rates, but I do realise that governments also need money from tax- and that interest rates cant be low all the time. Otherwise, why have interest rates at all? 

Some places in Europe have Corporate tax at 33% of profit, which equates to around 17% of their annual revenue that is own to the taxman. The UK is lower at 20% of profit, which equates to around 10% of revenue.

Trump wants the banks to reduce interest rate so that he can pump more money into the economy to get short term gains so he can win the next election. This will increase the massive debt that America has, when a plan should also include reducing this. 

Trump has got the short term gains of reducing tax to corporations. Now he also wants to reduce interest rates- to get the short term gains.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Sept 2019, 02:33
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06 Sept 2019, 02:33#18
Actually it's a bit more complicated. Europe has very low rates.....so the potential flow is into dollars. Which will continue to raise the value the dollar and make US goods less competitive. So Trump wants the Fed to lower rates. He is right now, just as he was right when the Fed crashed the markets last Nonvember. Obama never had a clue about any of this, Trump does and the pressure he has exerted on them helps protect against Fed created disasters, like the great recession in 2009.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Sept 2019, 16:37
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07 Sept 2019, 16:37#19

Thanks Moz, Draad and Windpomp for their efforts to educate these financial illeterates. 

Thought Stavs absurd comment about other countries not exploi ting the loopholes the treacherous former presidents provided was a priceless display of ignorance. 

Trade deficit with China 500 billion dollars per annum. Roughly same amount in stolen IP. 

Mexico 100 billion deficit per annum. 

Europe 150 billion US per annum. 

Total deficit from trade over 800 billion a year. 

Stav is so ignorant its painful to look at the halfwits posts. 

To think these clowns, dispite everything, still want to have a go at Trump over the US economy proves beyond doubt they are consumed by TDS. 

 Hahahahahahaha


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 Sept 2019, 17:01
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07 Sept 2019, 17:01#20
Trumpanzees trying their hardest to change the subject of this post to Bozo's economy rather than the fact that he congratulated Poland on getting invaded by the Nazis and having 17% of their population die.
Good thing the Trumpanzees can't edit the thread heading.
"I just want to congratulate Poland."
LMAO!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Sept 2019, 19:12
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07 Sept 2019, 19:12#21

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
08 Sept 2019, 00:29
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08 Sept 2019, 00:29#22
If an alien species from the other side of the galaxy arrived, and it was agreed they would first speak to the world leader. Would you want Trump speaking to them? The embassador of human "intelligent" life. We are bad, but what would they think of Trump?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Sept 2019, 08:09
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08 Sept 2019, 08:09#23

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2019, 09:06
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08 Sept 2019, 09:06#24

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The  aliens  would not want to deal with Trump, Putin or the Chinese Communists - because they  would demand reasonableness and a fair discussion that protect the interest of humankind,   Obama would have peeled over and suggest that the world is ready for alien rule and that all leaders would accept such rule if they are paid high enough bribes and can continue to live in luxury,

Obama is enjoying life now - being able to buy a $28 million property with money he got from where?  That is after he bought a $8 million mansion near Washington.          

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Sept 2019, 11:51
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08 Sept 2019, 11:51#25

Book deals and Netflix documentary deals...legal "payback" for services rendered?

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