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Deep State Infighting: DOJ Fingers FBI for Mar-a-Lago Raid Disaster

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Aug 2022, 13:41
#1
11 Aug 2022, 13:41#1

RPUBLICANS ARE RALLYING AROUND TRUMP!. NOTE EVEN A GOP REP WHO VOTED TO IMPEACH TRUMP IS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE RAID (SEE BELOW) WHAT A SPECTACULR BACKFIRE! 


Senior U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) officials are blaming FBI Director Christopher Wray for the recent raid of former President Donald Trump’s home in an apparent attempt to take pressure off U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland.

After Trump confirmed the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago on Monday, many Republican politicians called on both Wray and Garland to explain the justification for the raid.

For example, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said, “Merrick Garland, Chris Wray, come to the House Judiciary Committee this Friday and answer our questions about this action today, which has never happened in American history.”

Similarly, House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) called out the DOJ’s “intolerable state of weaponized politicization” and told Garland to “preserve your documents and clear your calendar” as he pledged an investigation into the FBI raid if the Republicans take control of the House after November’s midterms.

Even Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), who voted to impeach Trump after the January 6 Capitol Riots, said Wray and Garland “owe transparency on the justification for setting such a striking precedent.”

However, one senior DOJ official told Newsweek that the final decision to green-light the raid on Mar-a-Lago rested with FBI Director Wray.

“I know it’s hard for people to believe, but this was a matter for the U.S. Attorney and the FBI,” the source told Newsweek.

“It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact,” the source added.

Although the DOJ source claimed Wray gave the final go-ahead, Newsweek also reported that Attorney General Garland “was regularly briefed” on the investigation into Trump and “he knew about the grand jury and what material federal prosecutors were seeking.”

However, the source insisted “that Garland had no prior knowledge of the date and time of the specific raid, nor was he asked to approve it,” according to Newsweek.

The grand jury investigation over a potential violation of the Presidential Records Act that led to the raid on Mar-a-Lago reportedly began in April.

Another senior DOJ official told Newsweek that the Mar-a-Lago raid was a “spectacular backfire” because the FBI reportedly planned the raid while Trump was not in Florida in an effort to avoid any media circus.

As Newsweek detailed:

The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI’s deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump’s Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.

FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.

The first DOJ source told Newsweek:

I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action. They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite.

“They were seeking to avoid any media circus. So even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout,” the second source said.

With Republicans rallying around the former president after news of the raid broke, it appears the FBI got the exact opposite of what they wanted.

“After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate,” Trump said in a statement on Monday.

“It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024, especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections,” said Trump.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2022, 14:06
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11 Aug 2022, 14:06#2

I am sure that when the Republican Party investigate the raid after gaining the majority in November in the house it will be found that the raid was the result of co-ordination between the WH, the Justice Department, the FBI  and the DNC as a pre-election ploy - same as what they concocted before the 2016 election  with the lies about Russian Collussion.

Wray's "fear" that Trump would destroy the documents  more than 18 months after Trump left the WH is both crazy and irrational.   If there is anything  Trump wanted to destroy it would have been done in the last 18 months.     This has sent the fear of hell into supporters of  constitutional judicial process and is going to cost the Democrats dearly in the upcoming election -  even the RINO's are scared stiff about the consequences..         

Somebody is going to be fired as a result of gross miscalculation as to political persecution which  is against everything in any democracy  and is against the US Constitution as well.    The source will be traced down and it is likely that  Biden  would not even know  what happened - he is totally retarded - and the source is likely Rice .in collaboration with the clique effectually running the WH.    Garland has lied to the Senate trying to wiggle his way out of the "domestic terrorist|" claim against parents objecting to Stalinist children brainwashing concocted by the WH and the Justice Department.   He was dead center in that since his son-in-law is selling TRC books to schools making many millions out of it  - and like Biden Garland is a crook himself benefitting from the sales.

A country governed by criminals  -like the USA is at present  - is the source of destruction of democracy worldwide and a stain on the USA.  .      



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AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
11 Aug 2022, 16:49
#3
11 Aug 2022, 16:49#3

Corrupt from top to bottom.

Once the s..t hits the fan watch the rotten scoundrels point fingers at each other.

This action was planned at the highest levels within the Demorat ranks including the WH.

Typical of not accepting responsibility has been this admins policy from day one.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2022, 17:19
#4
11 Aug 2022, 17:19#4

Wray was a disastrous Trump appointment. All three of the main actors….Biden, Garland and Wray were in the loop, even though the details were left fuzzy to allow deniability. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Aug 2022, 21:23
#5
11 Aug 2022, 21:23#5

Wray was the next in line...not?

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
14 Aug 2022, 16:38
#6
14 Aug 2022, 16:38#6

Unfortunately President Trump appointed  "Lefty"Wray.

Perhaps the major blunder of his term as President.

Wray is no RINO he is just a plain corrupt Demorat who is operational in the USA political circles.

Both Wray and the Director before him have the same corrupt work ethics.

Distort, disrupt and delay and then keep repeating the cycle to avoid justice of any Demorat who has broken the law.

TRAITORS to the USA, the FBI and the american people.



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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
14 Aug 2022, 16:41
#7
14 Aug 2022, 16:41#7
LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE YEARS
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2022, 19:25
#8
14 Aug 2022, 19:25#8

You mean Wray, Biden and a host of other corrupt Democrat criminals?     All of them are going to  have nightmares after the Democrats lose control of the House and Senate in less than 3 months time.     The first thing they will have to do is to clean up is the Justice Department and the FBI -  both of which  Obama captured to provide cover for crooked Democrats - himself included.           

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2022, 19:25
#9
14 Aug 2022, 19:25#9

You mean Wray, Biden and a host of other corrupt Democrat criminals?     All of them are going to  have nightmares after the Democrats lose control of the House and Senate in less than 3 months time.     The first thing they will have to do is to clean up is the Justice Department and the FBI -  both of which  Obama captured to provide cover for crooked Democrats - himself included.           

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
16 Aug 2022, 09:59
#10
16 Aug 2022, 09:59#10

Aren't any of you concerned that he had highly classified documents at home in the first place?

Thats like leaving your current employment and wandering out the door with all the companies intellectual property but worse.

First thing he should be explaining is why did he steal these documents in the first place.

Once that is done then look into why the FBI raided him and why it took so long if they knew he had them and wanted them back.

Over all shows appalling levels of security by the US agencies, especially if this has occurred with past presidents.

America really is looking like incompetent fools on every front

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 12:54
#11
19 Aug 2022, 12:54#11

Looks like the trumpanzees are just  avoiding this question as they know he is in the wrong,

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
19 Aug 2022, 13:33
#12
19 Aug 2022, 13:33#12

Aren't any of you concerned that he had highly classified documents at home in the first place?

Thats like leaving your current employment and wandering out the door with all the companies intellectual property but worse.

First thing he should be explaining is why did he steal these documents in the first place.

They are not concerned because Trump is on their team. They can just dismiss or ignore it as fake news or a hoax. Take the Muller Report which found no collusion between Trump and Russia. Trump supporter's complete ignore the finding's that Russian's did interfere with the election. That was of no concern to them. That interference was in support of Trump. Given what we now know about the regime in Russia after its action in Ukraine, what does it say about the character of the man they where actively trying to support? That this murderous regime in Russia thought it was in their interests to try to get Trump into power. Or even the fact that Trump's campaign knew of the interference and expected to benefit from it, what does it say about his side that they didn't call it out in the interests fairness and democracy. If they had any integrity they should of come out and denounced Russia's action and said they wanted a clean and fair fight and that they wanted to win a clean and fair fight.

But lets be fair to Trump on this. From my understanding as President he does have the power to declassify documents. Its unclear whether these documents where declassified or not. I've heard speculation that the declassification procedure was possibly not done correctly or not completed.

If it is the case that the documents where genuinely declassified then Trump is probably only get a slap on the wrist for improperly storing documents, like what happened to Hilary.

It looks like he wasn't entitled to keep the documents even if declassified and I don't believe the Trump team is disputing the fact he had the documents.  Again its a question of intent, did Trump genuinely not know he wasn't entitled to keep the documents or did he keep them to hide something or that he intended to use the information within them for some reason. We don't know at this point.

Once that is done then look into why the FBI raided him and why it took so long if they knew he had them and wanted them back.

Apparently the lawyers from both sides where already involved for many months on this and about a third of the documents had already been returned. There is also reports that there was concerns that Trump wasn't being fully co-operative in the matter. Some evidence most of been presented the made the FBI feel compelled to conduct the search rather than to continue to peruse the matter via the lawyers. Again we don't know the full details at this point.

Over all shows appalling levels of security by the US agencies, especially if this has occurred with past presidents.

America really is looking like incompetent fools on every front

During the Clinton e-mails investigation the FBI found a culture of lax security in the state department regarding e-mail usage.

As for incompetent, probably no more than any other country.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Aug 2022, 14:54
#13
19 Aug 2022, 14:54#13

You must be crazy is your  statement about Trump stealing  anything   and is ridiculous coming from the fake news agencies known for lying.   The documents he took was declassified and if it involving anything involving him  he certainly had the right to take it with him.    In any event the situation will be clarified hopefully with the release of the affidavit signed by Garland  leading to granting of the permission by a local - and not a  federal judge - to approve  the raid his home.   The FBI and Justice Department fight all-out to stop the release since Garland is a  proved liar and the FBI was atrocious in their conduct since 2011 when they became a subsidiary  of the Democratic Party.     

Your story about Russian Collussion with Trump is total BS and you should be ashamed of hiding behind lies concocted by the Democrats to justify your statements/    :"Take the Muller Report which found no collusion between Trump and Russia. Trump supporter's complete ignore the finding's that Russian's did interfere with the election. That was of no concern to them. That interference was in support of Trump|".   How can you make that statement when it was exposed that Clinton in an e-mail  sent to her equally corrupt Campaign Manager - Podesta - wrote that she has "direct access to Putin's inner sanctum".     This e-mail was obtained from Podesta's laptop and is proven to exist.      

Trump never did anything to help Russia in any way and they did not act against Ukraine while he was President.   Many countries blame Biden for the war and in a lecture given by the SA foreign Minister when Blinky visited SA he was told outright that the war could have been avoided  if the Biden Administration did not sabotage negotiations.    He was sent packing without getting any benefit.    I extremely rarely believe in anything the SA Government does - they are even in corruption and crooking with the Democrats in the USA - but in this case I believe the SA Foreign Minister. 

Let me also remind you that   before the treaty largely solving  Northern Ireland problems the two negotiators  involved  in the settling of Democracy in SA  - Ramaphosa and Meyer was used by the negotiating partners  to solve the Northern Ireland problems.   Ramaphosa and Meyer offered to help solving the problems in Ukraine - but was turned down by Biden who wanted a proxy war at all costs.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
19 Aug 2022, 14:58
#14
19 Aug 2022, 14:58#14

"They are not concerned because Trump is on their team.

Bullshit..... 



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 15:30
#15
19 Aug 2022, 15:30#15

You are crazy Mike, those are GOVERNMENT  documents, trump is not a member of the US government,  Are you saying when you leave a job (being the president is a job) you can walk out the door with whatever you like?

Try that in the private sector and see how you get on.

It is irrelevant if they were declassified or not or pertaining to him, they are not his property and he is not entitled to take whatever takes his fancy.

Maybe your past employers should be knocking on your door if that's your attitude, just unbelievable that someone can be so entitled that they feel stealing things from work is fine

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Aug 2022, 16:43
#16
19 Aug 2022, 16:43#16

The judge has ordered the Justice Department  to release a reducted version of the document to the applicant.    Knowing that Garland - as corrupt an idiot as Biden is - they will not only take names out of the Document - but mutilate it. to cover up their own BS - so the document released would be worthless and release will not be soon.      .     

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 18:22
#17
19 Aug 2022, 18:22#17

Yep let's release the most secure files America holds unedited  to the general public, hell why have anything secured from the public, let's release the names of everybody working for the USA all around the world why we are at it.

You are a moron who is so far down the conspiracy well your sitting in complete darkness pulling your pud

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Aug 2022, 18:40
#18
19 Aug 2022, 18:40#18

That's BS Sader...it's just a handy excuse they hide behind...he's been cooperating with them since Feb and then they decide to raid him out of the blue? Do you seriously believe the official narrative? Imagine the chaos if this happened to Obama under Trump's watch. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 18:53
#19
19 Aug 2022, 18:53#19

I can't believe  you lot are so biased that you think trump stealing highly classified documents is ok, I don't give a shit who it is that compromises national  security. They are compromising their own country's security. 

You lot are so blinded by bullshit, I bet if it was Obama  or Clinton that was raided you would be calling for the death sentence for treason.

I hope I never so blinded by bs as you lot. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Aug 2022, 20:40
#20
19 Aug 2022, 20:40#20

"I can't believe  you lot are so biased that you think trump stealing highly classified documents is ok"

That's alleged BS...This is just the latest desperate attempt to hopefully "get" something on him...like a bunch of other attempts before this...it's been going on for 6 years already...I can't believe you can't see the obvious patern...they've been throwing everything they got at him and still has nothing...hope porn of the left...what would be the motivation for him to steal these documents?

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 21:26
#21
19 Aug 2022, 21:26#21

What went before is irrelevant he has stolen highly classified documents and you blind twats think it's fine. 

You have been blinded by bs and can't see it

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 21:31
#22
19 Aug 2022, 21:31#22

If it turns out that everything he has is open source them I have no problem with it if he is allowed by law to keep these documents  but from the face of it I can't  see how he can take documents  from his employer and that is legal.

How is this any different  from stealing from your employer?

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 21:31
#23
19 Aug 2022, 21:31#23

If it turns out that everything he has is open source them I have no problem with it if he is allowed by law to keep these documents  but from the face of it I can't  see how he can take documents  from his employer and that is legal.

How is this any different  from stealing from your employer?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Aug 2022, 22:08
#24
19 Aug 2022, 22:08#24
What would his motivation be? You seem to be buying the narrative...up to now everytime they cried wolf it was a nothingburger...I see no reason why this is different. 
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2022, 22:26
#25
19 Aug 2022, 22:26#25

Who knows what his motive is and who cares,, if he has taken highly confidential documents or even any document for that fact it is theft.

He is not a government official and more so what right does he have to take files from his employer?

As a ex president does that give him special rights to take what ever he wants?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Aug 2022, 07:36
#26
20 Aug 2022, 07:36#26

I think there was a hint of what is going on.    Trump apparently took documents with him that contains critical info about corrupt activities of Democrats - Biden included  - and that is just too much for the gutter idiots to accept.   

They are afraid it would be used against them when the House investigate the BS spreading to the media by the Democrats and the FBI - a real panic disaster for them..       

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
20 Aug 2022, 10:16
#27
20 Aug 2022, 10:16#27

I think there was a hint of what is going on.    Trump apparently took documents with him that contains critical info about corrupt activities of Democrats - Biden included  - and that is just too much for the gutter idiots to accept.  

LMAO. Of course you would suggest that.

If he evidence of corruption why didn't he hand it over to the authorities or go public with it.

They are afraid it would be used against them when the House investigate the BS spreading to the media by the Democrats and the FBI - a real panic disaster for them..

The only panic disaster is among Trump supporters like you.

Talk about being absolutely desperate.





DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 11:19
#28
20 Aug 2022, 11:19#28

Allegedly...again. He's been accused of so many things and yet nothing has been proven...it was a desperate attempt to get dirt on him because they've got nothing else...like with the Russian Collusion BS, the first impeachment...and the second...and this J6 tribunal BS...they believe he's guilty because they are guilty...they've thrown everything at him for 6 years and still they have nothing...desperate times makes for desperate measures...what's next?...he might be rude and a lot of other undesirable qualities,  but he's not a crook...and the insane lefties just can't accept that.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Aug 2022, 11:23
#29
20 Aug 2022, 11:23#29

Have these "classified" documents been identified? 

What are they? 

... or is it just the usual thumb-sucking we've come to associate with the feeble minded left? 

Once again .... the media jump to conclusions and SharkShit and Stav swallow their tall tales as fact.

Relax you dumbasses ... you'll do yourselves an injury. 


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
20 Aug 2022, 11:54
#30
20 Aug 2022, 11:54#30

Once again .... the media jump to conclusions and SharkShit and Stav swallow their tall tales as fact.

Hold up a second, I said in a previous post on the topic that Trump as President had the right to declassify these files and if it turns out these files where declassified before he lest the Presidency than potentially the issue is a lot less serious. 

All I have said on the topic is we don't have the full information in terms of why the search warrant was granted and what the files contained. There is plenty of speculation.

What I have called out is the way Trump supporters instantly dismissed the investigation as politically motivated. No waiting to see what evidence is presented.

If charges are pressed, then Trump like everyone deserves to be considered innocent until proven otherwise and would deserve a chance to defend himself in court.





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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 15:30
#31
20 Aug 2022, 15:30#31

What files Stav? All we know is that they raided his home because he allegedly had classified documents lying around...apparently there was another "whistle-blower"... Nothing has been confirmed...you lot are assuming the allegations are true without having seen any proof whatsoever...we have a president of numerous UNSUCCESSFUL which hunts against the man...by the very same entities and somehow you believe it's legit this time?...and you call us deluded?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 15:33
#32
20 Aug 2022, 15:33#32

This stinks like the Steele Dossier...same mo...and guess what...Strzøk is also somehow involved again...you can't make th!$ $h!t up...being prosecuted by the lefty media again...no evidence required.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
20 Aug 2022, 17:07
#33
20 Aug 2022, 17:07#33

What files Stav?

The files the FBI have listed as recovered during the search. I'm not sure you're aware but the Trump side isn't denying having taken the files, Trumps lawyers actually already returned 15 boxes to the National Archive earlier in the year after months of negotiations and Trump has taken to social media to ask the documents taken be returned. Whats in dispute is if the documents had been declassified and if Trump had the right to hold on to the files.

Nothing has been confirmed...you lot are assuming the allegations are true without having seen any proof whatsoever

I've made no such assumption. You lot are assuming a witch hunt without proof.

.we have a president of numerous UNSUCCESSFUL which hunts against the man...by the very same entities and somehow you believe it's legit this time?...and you call us deluded?

Your political view is that is was a witch hunt. The National Archives was not involved in previous Trump investigations but other entities like the FBI where. Whether this case is legit remains to be seen but its my personal view that previous cases where legit and while I haven't called you deluded before I'll take the opportunity to do so now as I can't think of any other term for people who still support Trump at this point.







DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Aug 2022, 17:18
#34
20 Aug 2022, 17:18#34

Semantics... you can't see the political motive behind this, it's because you don't want to. The raid was a deliberate over reaction in the hope of finding something more...was his passports also classified?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:07
#35
20 Aug 2022, 19:07#35

Stav

Aren't any of you concerned that he had highly classified documents at home in the first place?

Thats like leaving your current employment and wandering out the door with all the companies intellectual property but worse.

First thing he should be explaining is why did he steal these documents in the first place.

There were no highly classified documents taken by Trump - I saw he evidence that Trump declassify all documents he took - acting simply in his own right as  President.

The latest information is that the documents the Biden Administration is panicking about is proof of corruption by a string of Democrats.  Nobody would leave those to be handed to the  FBI or any Government agency.   The documents were already handed to the FBI and they did not act on it.   Highly likely they destroyed it. 

So they now suspect the documents are with some inner circle people and they already raided three homes and offices of people to try and find any copies of the documents concerned and found NOTHING.    The next step was taken to raid the Trump home when they know he was not at home.

So what did they do.    When Trumps lawyer turned up they refused to let her have a copy of the court order authorizing the raid.  They waived it at her when she was about 10 meters away from them.  Then the real story started.  They knew the documents were in boxes - kept safely - the Trump house is guarded by Government security services anyway,     The chances to get into that house is near to impossible - so there were no risk of  anything being stolen.

The FBI agents then went through the house and searched every room for any written material - they took an hour going through the cupboards  of his wife after instructing a staff member to switch off all the security cameras in the house.   They then broke into his safe and took  his expired passports - of which there were two - and his present Diplomatic Passport used by every ex-President in the USA. They took all his client lawyer documents as well - which  were not provided for in the search warrant anyway.      

So what were they so desperate to find?  The latest allegation has not yet been proved - but it is clear that the documents they were looking for would have been destroyed by the FBI if they can lay their hands on it.   

So lets wait and see what happens - the news media has gone crazy on the issue so one can accept that they lied about it.    The Democratic Party  fears that they are going to lose their majority in the House and the whole thing is a political stunt trying to scare people into voting  for the  Democratic Party candidates.   Like the corrupt politicians the FBI management  is as fearful  of  the Republicans gaining the majority in the House and investigating them.              

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:07
#36
20 Aug 2022, 19:07#36

Stav

Aren't any of you concerned that he had highly classified documents at home in the first place?

Thats like leaving your current employment and wandering out the door with all the companies intellectual property but worse.

First thing he should be explaining is why did he steal these documents in the first place.

There  were no highly classified documents taken by Trump = I saw the evidence that Trump declassify all documents he took - acting simply in his own right as  President.

The latest information is that the documents the Biden Administration is panicking about is proof of corruption by a string of Democrats.  Nobody would leave those to be handed to the  FBI or any Government agency.   The documents were already handed to the FBI and they did not act on it.   Highly likely they destroyed it. 

So they suspected the documents are with some inner circle people and they already raided three homes and offices of people to try and find any copies of the documents concerned and found NOTHING.    The next step was taken to raid the Trump home when they know he was not at home.

So what did they do.    When Trumps lawyer turned up they refused to let her have a copy of the court order authorizing the raid.  They waived at her when she was about 10 meters away from her.    Then the real story started.  They knew the documents were in boxes - kept safely - the Trump house is guarded by Government security services anyway,     The chances to get into that house is near to impossible - so there were no risk of  anything being stolen.

The FBI agents then went through the house and searched every room for any written material - they took an hour going through the cupboards  of his wife after instructing a staff member to switch off the security cameras in the house.   They then broke into his safe and took both his expired passports - and his present Diplomatic Passport used by every ex-President in the USA.  They took all the documents in his safe too.   Noe of those were included in the search warrant - especially not his client- lawyer documents as well taking of which is totally illegal .         

So what were they so desperate to find?  The latest allegation has not yet been proven - but it is clear that the documents they were looking for would have been destroyed by the FBI if they can lay their hands on it.   

So lets wait and see what happens - the news media has gone crazy on the issue so one can accept that they lied about it.    The Democratic Party  fears that they are going to lose their majority in the House and the whole thing is a political stunt trying to scare people into voting  for the  Democratic Party candidates.   Like the corrupt politicians the FBI management  is as fearful  of  the Republicans gaining the majority in the House and investigating them.              

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:32
#37
20 Aug 2022, 19:32#37

Acting simply as his right as president????

He is not the fucking president, he is a bloody civilian.

I think you missed he got booted from that job and is a common Joe now.


CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:33
#38
20 Aug 2022, 19:33#38

Next you will be saying he can wander into the white house or the pentagon and do whatever the fuck he wants.

Seriously you are so wrapped by all this conspiracy shit your brain is fried.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Aug 2022, 19:55
#39
20 Aug 2022, 19:55#39

CF

If ever there was a revolting corrupt criminal as President, it is Biden - followed closely by Clinton and Obama.

I do not deal with  conspiracy shit - that is the preserve of the Democrats and the media you believe in.   They are liars and corrupt individuals  - those two flock together with the media liars.    

You have  apparently learned nothing from the lies concocted by the Democrats as to Trump colluding with Putin at all.   But enjoy it - worldwide inflation and  the present USA recession hurt us all - it came directly from that criminal President in the WH. 

So lets go through your hysteria - Trump declassified the documents while he was President and I never said he could walk into the WH   and Pentagon to do anything.    What Trump did was strictly in terms f the law - what happened is a farce concocted by the FBI and Justice Department  with no reference to any law.    .        

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
20 Aug 2022, 20:04
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20 Aug 2022, 20:04#40

Never said the others were saints but you have so much shit in your eyes you seem to think Trump is the only honest man on the planet, he is as corrupt as the rest of them.

His track record leading up to the presidency is not fuckin spotless, he is as corrupt as the rest of them but you are so blinded by hatred you think the prick walks on water and is the 2nd coming of Jesus fuckin christ.

For once try to take a look at both sides of the coin, pricks like you are what leads to cunts like Adolp hitler and the final solution

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